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Posted by HostingY2K, 06-23-2001, 07:28 PM
I have recently been to valvenetwork.com, and they offer a resellers program for 65.00/year (plus a 50.00 resellers setup fee) for unlimited accounts. You can offer your clients: Unlimited WebSpace Unlimited Transfers Unlimited Subdomains Unlimited POP3 Mailboxes Unlimited Autoresponders MS SQL Database Server* Microsoft® FrontPage® 2000 Server Extensions* Server Side Includes CGI-BIN Directory Weekly data backup Web Based Control Panel* ASP, Perl, iHTML, CGI, SHTML and ODBC With Windows 2000 and Microsoft IIS version 5 SSL Secure Server* WAP Server Unlimited Domain Aliasing Free Domain Transfer Password Protected Directories* 99.5% Uptime Guaranteed I am seriously consitered using them, but I need to know if anyone has used them before (I don't want to blow off my money) and I think they are reselling for someone else, so does anyone know who that is? I want to find teh best deal I can get. Also, if someone knows a site that is either the same price, less, or even a little more than this deal, offers the same specs, and you know they acually work, please list some. I would be very greatful. Thank you. Sincerely, Ryan
Posted by MCHost-Marc, 06-23-2001, 07:59 PM
Do a search in this forum with the keywords "unlimited bandwidth" - that should answer your question. WebHosts offering unlimited disk space & bandwidth either kick their clients off the server when they reach a particular amount of bandwidth, charge them for extra bandwidth or close down sooner or later. There is no such thing as unlimited, not disk space, not bandwidth. I suggest you to look for a reliable host that offers more realistic features for your money
Posted by HostingY2K, 06-23-2001, 08:06 PM
Alright, but that doesn't answer it all. I am looking for someone who I can resell for that has a cheap, monthly or yearly price. It doesn't even have to be "Unlimted Accounts". Maybe like they can charge me 5.00/account, and I charge someone else 10.00, whatever. I want to make sure the people are well known, legal, and they can provide me with fast, reliable service. I am starting to think valvenetwork.com is not the place for me, because they seem unprofessional. Please give me good, cheap resellers.
Posted by MCHost-Marc, 06-23-2001, 08:18 PM
http://www.hostmatters.com/ http://www.jaguarpc.com/
Posted by WeedBiz, 06-23-2001, 08:58 PM
Listen to Kiwi, for he/she know's what they're talking about. There is NO such thing as "unlimited", especially for this price.
Posted by Dogma, 06-23-2001, 11:29 PM
is the whois. Why no nameserver?? Anywho, I would say avoid them. They've only been in business for a month and they offer UNLIMITED yes, unlimited. That should be a warning sign!!
Posted by Badone, 06-24-2001, 12:04 AM
They are a fasthost reseller. They are the site that tacid.net directed to after they closed down.
Posted by wbhst, 06-24-2001, 04:23 AM
How come tactid.net is the same as valvenetwork.com? What does that mean? wbhst
Posted by suracha, 06-24-2001, 07:12 AM
dear, I have check whois at networksolutions.com and found that the name server report was "No Name Server". how ever when track to internic.net, name server was report ns1.livedns.co.uk and ns2.livedns.co.uk which means they use fasthosts.com services. my point is they can report at nsi.com as "No Name Server", how can they do that? anyone know, should be some one ... regards, Suracha S.
Posted by Badone, 06-24-2001, 12:49 PM
wbhst: They aren't the same as tacid, but I think the reason that was given was they signed up right after tacid was kicked with the username tacid had, so tacid's domains forwarded to that account.
Posted by suracha, 06-24-2001, 01:10 PM
I don't care anyone will sell unlimited ... I don't trust that for myself ... I believe that there a lot of reseller know that too, they just use those services at the begining to make sure they can survive without need to put money on dedicated server, some of them plan to move to better place when they make sure they can do it? Do you remember your first day in business? When I post to this thread, my point is not on marketing, but on technicial terms, how can nsi report No Name Server on whois request? How can they do that? is that normal, or just play something with NIC record? (internic.net still report real things, it shoud be, if a web site can be found through name mapping on internet) But how can they post report on nsi to show out "No Name Server". Should be I ask them? If anyone of you know them, just ask them. regards, Suracha S.
Posted by pjmignone, 06-24-2001, 02:58 PM
You are getting good advice there is no such thing as unlimited bandwidth, just like there is no such thing as free freight. Some one pays UPS and some one pays the bandwidth provider. The post about getting kicked off is accurate with respect to some ISP's or hosts. The better companies either charge you for excess bandwidth which is the way you will see most small respectable company advertise. Something like includes 10 GB per month, X amount per gb thereafter. Another way it is done is to meter your connection. This is used mostly at colocation companies. For example, when we first started we co-located our own server and had a 128MB connection, which should be find for a hundred or so normal web sites. This allows you to know your prices. When you get to the point where the sites are slow, you can up your connection. Problems we had when we were reselling sites from large hosting comapnies was the amount of time it took to get through the layers to even get an e-mail fixed. Look for a company that offer a fair deal, not one that is too good to be true and one where you can get service within a reasonable amount of time. Don't be impressed by the number of servers, OC198 or whatever, because unless you know there % of utilization, this is all meaningless. UUNET for example suppossedly has the biggest and "best" backbone. Yet, I heard from several sources that the local pop was at 150% of capacity. (Telco allow ISP's to sell 3X thier capacity.) So I got our T-1 elsewhere. My advice is to look for a reputable company who you feel comfortable dealing with, that has fair pricing. A dedicated rep at a large company is a good sign. Being able to talk to the owner or manager at a small company is also a good sign.
Posted by pjmignone, 06-24-2001, 03:06 PM
I don't know which whois you used but http://www.nsiregistry.net/ whois shows them having names servers. I didn't thing you could have a register domain that showed up in whois without them. I know you could not get to thier web site if they didn't have them.
Posted by Mat Sumpter, 06-24-2001, 03:19 PM
I don't think they registered their nameservers with NetSol, or the way they like it done, so they are not adding them to their database....
Posted by suracha, 06-24-2001, 03:21 PM
http://nsi.com/cgi-bin/whois/whois When you click on 'WHOIS Lookup' on there home page (the one at the upper right corner) it will take you there, and most people goto nsi.com should use this one. regards, Suracha S.
Posted by lionfire, 06-26-2001, 07:05 PM
Hello, I use Valve Network.. I like them.. Fasthosts gave them problems, so they are moving to a dedicated server with a lot more reliability and all. I would highly suggest them.. however, they now have 400 gigs of bandwidth a month to share on the server, which isnt too terrible, better than Fasthosts!! Thanks, Clark Howard Enega Networks