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Posted by Core, 07-05-2004, 10:23 PM
Account opened aproximately 6 weeks ago. Response times to initial signup inquiries... minimal Response times to the few (3) tickets I have put in since then, almost instant. Uptime for June 98.315% from 6/13 - 6/30 Outages reported by SiteUptime 11 Outages verified by me 10 Outages were usually brief, only caught by me because I received alerts from siteuptime.com some were in excess of 1 hour The forums at OneStop were locked and are no longer available. Apparently folks had the audacity to use the forums to make complaints and compare notes concerning the service they were getting and it upset someone. Updates were scheduled for July 3rd, and downtime was announced well in advance (early warning was much appreciated) Today, the thread offering accounts at Onestop was requested, by D@vid to be closed, stating no more accounts were available. Shortly after that post my site began bouncing. It is currently unavailable, as is onestopserver.com Trouble tickets cannot be entered, emails of course cannot be sent, since the server is down and they will not be received until/unless it comes up. An alternate email address was recently provided, a Hotmail address, emails to it this evening have not been replied to. Standings as of this evening for Galaxy Server at OneStopServer: July 1 to present 95.370% Outages reported to me by serveruptime 6 Outages verified by me when reported 6 Current uptime for today 69.231% My current level of Angry due to ZERO contact from management 101% I opened this account solely to make this report. It was worth the little bit of money I laid out for a years worth of account. Overall, if I leave today out of the mix, I would still currently recommend OneStopServer. I have not begun testing to see just howm much of my alloted space or bandwidth I'll actually be allowed to use... that was scheduled to begin this week, and assuming the server comes back online, another report will follow in another 6 weeks to see how things are going. For those of you that cried FOUL when Onestop started advertising, all I can say is up until this morning you were wrong, and very much so. Assuming a reasonably acceptable answer can be given for the outage this evening, I'll still consider you wrong. Core

Posted by webspot, 07-19-2004, 08:48 PM
There has been a reason for the last 20 outages but that doesn't make it fine with me as it's still an outage ! And i want my sites to be online and not simply pay to have excuses. I am giving them the benefit of the doubt and still using there service in the hope that things improve. Like that email i sent them 4 days ago might be answered one day this week i hope.

Posted by Vulture, 07-20-2004, 06:13 PM
I've been looking at onestopserver for a while and I must say there is a lot of conflicting stories. this thread for example seems to be very suggestive that the management of onestop is very unstable, same as their offers. What im wondering is if anyone can convince me that onestop has stable servers and are reliable enough to consider futher. Thanks in advance for any feedback. Last edited by Vulture; 07-20-2004 at 06:16 PM.

Posted by andreys, 07-20-2004, 06:24 PM
onestopserver is so packed that its down allot... my friend is hosting there his site bairly works... its down 2 much..

Posted by webspot, 07-20-2004, 08:00 PM
Yes I have a reseller account there basically just to host my own sites all in the one place. But since then I have bought hosting elsewhere and moved many of my more important sites away I thought there support was great at first but i still have no response now from an email 5 days ago and a help ticket 2 days ago. I was recommending them to many when I first joined but now have egg all over my face as It's me they ask why they can't access their sites on a regular basis.

Posted by andreys, 07-20-2004, 10:34 PM
damb that sux.... my friend is a reseller there and i am hosting at my friends.... and it sux coz my site is down allot.....

Posted by rcrrich, 07-21-2004, 12:42 AM
Is it the servers or service that is bad? Do you know for a fact that it is the server or your network that is slow or the path in which your provider is going.

Posted by webspot, 07-21-2004, 01:34 AM
Both As soon as i notice an outage I ask my messenger buddies if they can see my sites, I live in Australia and they are in New Zealand , USA & India and none of them can see the sites either when i can't. OneStop site goes down at the same time too and without being a true techy that all the info i can give you regarding networks and paths etc. But i assume they all take different paths to me.

Posted by andreys, 07-21-2004, 02:10 AM
erm.... dont host there.... coz his servers are full of people and... it is hard 4 him 2 like do suport i think he has around 2000 peeps... around in that area.... so.. ur choice m8 want 2 host there... u can no 1 is stoping u but i am just saying.. just go for some thing more free of people... like try www.hometownhosting.com they are a great host dont got the place all packed like onestop.. well good luck

Posted by Vulture, 07-21-2004, 06:02 AM
Thanks for the feedback people, I definatly will avoid onestop for now. Thanks for the link, that site looks good. I'll definatly consider them

Posted by andreys, 07-22-2004, 12:10 PM
erm... no problem m8...

Posted by crucialx, 07-23-2004, 01:51 AM
Just looking at their pricing tells you that they are overselling by a large amount, probably why they have so many server problems...

Posted by Shaw Networks, 07-23-2004, 02:21 AM
10 outages in half a month, ouch :-/ I feel for you there, heh

Posted by lumbyjj, 07-23-2004, 04:47 AM
Just the sheer number of outages is ridiculous and unacceptable in my personal opinion. I would suggest looking elsewhere for anyone that wants their website to available.

Posted by webspot, 07-23-2004, 05:00 AM
For everyone's info I still have no response for the help ticket and emails. So now even if the site was up 99.9% of the time like promised (which we all know it isn't) this is unacceptable to be left waiting so long.

Posted by lumbyjj, 07-23-2004, 05:13 AM
Agreed. I wouldn't have let it sit that long though personally.. My .02

Posted by webspot, 07-23-2004, 05:16 AM
I cant get any response from him/them what do you suggest ?

Posted by lumbyjj, 07-23-2004, 05:19 AM
This may be niave, but you have backup of your sites correct?? I would start moving them away immediately. If they have control of your domain, I would go to the actual registrar to have the DNS changed to your new host. That's what I would suggest...

Posted by webspot, 07-23-2004, 05:21 AM
Oh thats all been done but i still have a site or two there as I know i wont get any money back so i'm basically using it with the less important stuff

Posted by lumbyjj, 07-23-2004, 05:27 AM
Still, I would get everything away and be done with them. But it's my personal opinion, if you have a site that you host, then it's probably important enough to have it up all the time... Like I said, all personal opinion..

Posted by webspot, 07-23-2004, 05:36 AM
Yes and no I have around 20 sites hosted and I am always playing with new scripts so i'm using then as my testing ground so to speak

Posted by lumbyjj, 07-23-2004, 05:41 AM
Fair enough..

Posted by Vulture, 07-23-2004, 09:41 AM
Yep, thats what made me suspious, came here, found this, glad I did. Thanks for the replies people

Posted by InvisionHosting, 07-23-2004, 12:50 PM
I use onestopserver for my reseller. I'm on the the reseller plan Mega and IP based and I havent had a problem. Their load times are fast, the set-up time was fast and i havent seen them go down once. So over all I say this company is amazing for the price

Posted by webspot, 07-23-2004, 07:00 PM
You must be new with them or don't really spend much time on your own sites (or your customers). the last week i haven't noticed much down time and i do hope they have made things more stable but we just have to wait and see I tend to agree they are amazing for the price, but you get what you pay for. " You pay peanuts you get monkeys working for you" No support through the help system or email if the problem is something they don't know how to or don't want to fix eg: the shared SSL has expired so no one trusts the forms you have on it. A simple reply to say we will fix this soon would be great but i have no response for almost a week now, do you think this is amazing?

Posted by Wheels, 07-24-2004, 03:00 AM
Is anybodys hosting with onestop at the moment working? mine has been down for 4 days with no response to any emails, it seems as though my account has been deleted as i can no longer log into WHM

Posted by webspot, 07-24-2004, 03:07 AM
Yes mine is working at the moment. Sorry to hear you are having problems.

Posted by Frmr1stopCustomer, 07-24-2004, 04:41 PM
Sorry to hear you're having problems. I got accused of slander and lying when I posted my experiences, so I won't waste my time trying to get into that again. Instead I'll simply say that it appears that the support left at the same time as the former partner. I have also since received an e-mail saying that the current owner and administrator has moved from the place he was staying at, so perhaps he just has not gotten his internet set up at his new home (giving the benefit of the doubt and hoping you weren't actually screwed over). Personally, at this point I would put a halt payment, pack up everything I could get access to on my site, and head on for somewhere else. I hope things get better for you.

Posted by Wheels, 07-24-2004, 10:18 PM
well i have since bought my own dedicated server, but seeings as i cant access my site at all, i cant backup anything, and neither can my 150 or so customers. I have given up on trying to get the hosting back (even though it has 10 months left in the 12 month plan i payed for) and am just looking to have it reopened for a week for me to allow customers backups of their site this move by onestop has just about killed my small company and its reputation

Posted by webspot, 07-27-2004, 01:42 AM
I went to check my support ticket today after a week of not hearing anything. Guess what happened ? no it wasn't responded too but there was a further error ERROR: Invalid License Key (Time Period Expired) The support system key has expired and been disabled. I was going to add another ticket asking about the SQL not functioning AGAIN but no need i guess as it's time to not even use it as a testing grounds anymore.

Posted by Frmr1stopCustomer, 07-27-2004, 02:42 AM
I am sorry for the trouble you've had to go through, webspot. I tried to warn some people about this a few months ago, and was called all sorts of things for it. I hope that you can salvage something from this... my guess is that his server will expire soon, if he's not keeping up with the licensing keys... it's only a matter of time now.

Posted by webspot, 07-27-2004, 02:49 AM
Probably done a runner with all the cash thats why he oversold like crazy. He knew he was going offline and noone would catch up with him again.

Posted by Adaera, 07-27-2004, 02:56 AM
I too tried to warn people in this thread: webhostingtalk.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=264107 and was called all sorts of names by the current owner. I know first hand what he is like, and I tried to tell people so they wouldn't find themselves in this situation; unfortunately I wasn't believed. I hate to say this...but I told you so.

Posted by webspot, 08-01-2004, 06:30 AM
July stats Service: galaxy Outages: 14 Downtime: 15 hrs, 30 mins Uptime: 97.61%

Posted by Mike_11, 08-01-2004, 02:31 PM
well i was a sucker who paid for it and just got tired and didnt care about my $55 or wutever i spent on it. thats why i left them I told him to cancel my acct still got an email from him... lmao and that was 2 weeks ago... So basically u lost ur money if u want to leave them

Posted by Adaera, 08-01-2004, 02:48 PM
Webspot if you're happy with 15 1/2 hours of downtime on your money, more power to you---but what was the cost of your website being unavailable to your users? Mike_11 -- sad to say, but at 55.00, you got off *alot* lighter than I did. I'm still waiting for the money he *promised* to pay back. Good thing I wasn't holding my breath. Instead I moved to a new location with new partners and a new server administrator who knows what he is doing; needless to say, I am much much happier now.

Posted by Vulture, 08-01-2004, 04:37 PM
Well, I just looked at the site again, seems to be loading very poorly and I see what you mean webspot, his entire support page is down. Doesn't make a very promissing show for customers and I think this is a perfect example of why picking the cheap option never works. Hope all those people who have had problems get them sorted. I'm sure there are good hosts out there who aren't just out to scam people.

Posted by webspot, 08-01-2004, 06:35 PM
I was just backing up my previous comments with some official stats I got the ebay special and payed a total of $30 for 2 reseller packages and i guess you get what you pay for. I no longer run any sites there that i care about really.

Posted by Frmr1stopCustomer, 08-01-2004, 07:17 PM
It would look like the owner did a pretty standard "Dump and Run"... sec.gov/investor/pubs/cyberfraud.htm is a pretty good link for Internet Fraud, and has a link to report a person. From what I can gather here, what the owner did was offer "spectactular service and support for rock-bottom costs", talked people into paying well in advance until he got a good list of clients, then simply... well... dumped, and ran. I also did some quick digging to see if I could track down some contact info so that people could actually have a place to complain to, and found this courtesy of whois.enom.com: Administrative Contact: One Stop Server Networks One Stop Server Networks (admin@onestopserver.com) 000-000-0000 Fax: 000-000-0000 Route 17 Carlstadt, NJ 07072 US Now, I was not aware that it was legal to falsify contact info for a domain, so theoretically, one could take that info and his name and hunt down a way to contact him. With some help from a few people, I've also managed to get his IP address, which along with the date and time could probably be used to track him... but because of privacy issues, I won't post it here on the board. All in all, he had a great scam going, and it's really depressing that he was even allowed to take it this far (even going far enough to have Adaera attacked for trying to warn customers). If any good can come out of this, it's that the reputation of oss is taking a bigger hit every day, and hopefully soon enough it will have no reputation left with which to sucker more people. Wishful thinking...

Posted by Mike_11, 08-02-2004, 12:09 AM
Thats WHY I ****IN HATE INTERNET SECURITY AND SCAMMERS.... please excuse the lang... ppl can do whatever they want on the I-Net and really no one can stop them from doing it... But I guess we can all learn from are experiences but the owner will get wuts comin to him cause wut goes around comes around

Posted by Wheels, 08-04-2004, 01:44 AM
his server IP is 67.18.64.148 , just incase he tries to start up under a different name

Posted by ensermo, 08-16-2004, 11:55 PM
Can someone here tell me if they managed to get their acccounts of the server? I have 4 accounts on some sort of Ebay sale I got. I did not expect much and am still not expecting much from the server. The only problem I have is that in Cpanel and WHM "backups are disabled" So moving 1 site to another server is impossible seems. Any ideas? I emailed 2 times allready. It;s not super urgent but Im just wondering.

Posted by webspot, 08-17-2004, 12:05 AM
onestopserver has been down more than up lately, especially the last 2 days. They are nothing short of pathetic and i suggest you cut your losses and move on !

Posted by ensermo, 08-17-2004, 12:09 AM
I don't actually mind the downtime since it was not a "critical" server. Only that in the process of getting a new dedicated server I put an account on the OSS server. And now I can't transfer it to my new dedicated sever. How is the best way to get them without a backup function enabled? I have no root access and I can't find anything else in WHM. So the last possible solution would be ftp. but if I ftp everything in an account would I still have sql, mails etc? (I got a new server and wanted to put the stuff in there

Posted by webspot, 08-17-2004, 12:25 AM
in the sql admin you can back up the sql which is in cpanel. then on your new server run the sql string to recreat the tables and insert the data etc. you will need to change all the connection files before you upload them or they will still be looking to connect to the old server. Thats exactly what i am currently doin now as i cannot get any response from the support and cant use any backup feature either.

Posted by SFSunMedia, 08-17-2004, 03:42 AM
sorry to bring this topic back from the archives but I just had to inform everyone here that my sites were down for the past 48 hours and they have just came back with SQL still down for all my sites.

Posted by webspot, 08-17-2004, 03:47 AM
Yes same here !

Posted by genome, 08-17-2004, 10:22 AM
2 months of files missing. 2 months of archive e-mail missing (from manually loading the mailbox files in a word processor). webmail not working. OSS login system not working (files not found!). OSS support system which has an exprired license is relying on something which isnt installed (zend optimizer). cpanel password was reset to what it was 2 months ago. havent checked MySQL yet, kinda pissed off atm.

Posted by VapoRub, 08-17-2004, 12:09 PM
They might just have a harddrive failure and struggling to restore.

Posted by webspot, 08-17-2004, 07:24 PM
Do a search for onestopserver here @ WHT and you will see it's more than likely he has simply make quick money and left the scene as he CANNOT be contacted at all. It's a case of if something goes wrong there is nobody to help you as he has his money and has gone. If you choose to continue to use onestop then you do so at your own risk and i advise to move ALL paying clients elsewhere.

Posted by ashokwrd, 08-20-2004, 10:26 AM
Hey Guys what is scenario now?

Posted by ensermo, 08-20-2004, 10:31 AM
I still haven't gotten any answer.. (5 days) But at least I moved all paying customers...

Posted by SFSunMedia, 08-20-2004, 12:20 PM
All my sites are back up and running perfectly.

Posted by onice, 08-23-2004, 02:15 AM
Hi, I thought I was the only one affected by this hosting provider, I started on june-04 at first all was fine, support etc..Now as you know, sites down, database down, no customer support etc.. So it is good idea to complain about this guy, but first is good idea to let him know that we are taking care about his aptitude, is probable that he can bring back his responsibility at least with all of us who have paid already for a year or more. Then, if he still is ignoring ours tickets support or emails we can fill up a complain at: sec.gov/investor/pubs/cyberfraud.htm believe me I was an affected person when the owner of cyberwings.com took our money, but after complaining about him he started to giving back our money even when he closed his site. So let's do it, I have his phone number I can post it if you want. We can send a complain also at paypal for all who paid by this way.

Posted by ensermo, 08-23-2004, 02:19 AM
I'm all the way in Europe and don't really know much about wich rules apply in the US in this case. (we don't sue people so much here ) If you post his phone number I don't think we will get very far. And basiclly he is still delivering the space and internet connection. (Only no support) , so I don't think paypal will really do much. I personally like to settle things down without all the mumbo jumbo legal stuff. (I hate to pay lawyers..hope non a reading this ...lol) , but if some lawyer or law guru is reading this could you give your opinion on the possibilities?

Posted by onice, 08-23-2004, 02:23 AM
Well at least there are people really doing something to stop this guy! FYI when a customer get too many complain paypal can cancel his account to get any payment, so is good idea to complain there too.! Last edited by onice; 08-23-2004 at 02:27 AM.

Posted by webspot, 08-23-2004, 06:12 AM
Complaining to paypal isnt going to get my money back. And so what if he gets his paypal account cancelled, nothing to stop him getting another. Pay lawyers sheeeeeesh i'd rather say $15 gone and learn from it ! pay a lawyer thousands to get my $15 back? not really my next business move.

Posted by johnsimpson, 08-23-2004, 10:30 AM
I've been struggling with the downtime at onestopserver.com as well as everyone else. Everything was finally fine again a few days ago but it looks like MySQL is down. I sent an email over a week ago and still have had no response. Avoid onestopserver like the plague.

Posted by SFSunMedia, 08-23-2004, 11:30 AM
MySQL seems to be working fine as of right now for my sites hosted on their server(s).

Posted by onice, 08-23-2004, 02:06 PM
webspot RELAX, at least all clients who bought from eBay were paying by paypal, also he has no other method of payment, so he will have to look for other options. So this message is focused for resellers not for singles, as you say $15 means nothing. FYI if you want to open a new account with paypal you need to provide them other bank account. I dont think so he has more than one. Nobody say we have to pay for this action, just complian and that is it at least we are trying to do something. If I was you for 15 bucks even doesn’t bother me.

Posted by mvp-hosting, 08-23-2004, 05:16 PM
Well he banned my site for MP3 usage. I don't have an MP3 on my site but it had gotten to be a pretty popular ringtone site with some pretty decent traffic. This in turn I'm sure was using more bandwidth than he wanted. At last check he has over 1600 websites hosted on that server. I have emailed him for the last month or more and have not gotten a reply. I have come to the conclusion that my website is gone and nothing I can do about it. I have contacted ThePlanet where the webserver is hosted and explained the situation and they said there was nothing they could do. I checked ebay and his account has been closed. In other words folks he is gone. I am glad I kept my old server running and got almost everyone moved back and was only a couple of days from grabbing my ringtone site when he locked me out. I feel bad that I recomended him to people as the first 2 months were great. I don't care about my money I just want my ringtone site back. If anyone has a clue how to get in and grab my site I would be all ears. I tried FTP and everything I can think of to get the files but no luck.

Posted by mvp-hosting, 08-23-2004, 05:29 PM
Sorry double post please delete

Posted by webspot, 08-23-2004, 07:20 PM
I wouldn't call myself a reseller either although I bought 2 reseller packages but no way i'd sell onestop accounts to anyone. How hard is it to get another bank account ? i have 3 here and takes 5 mins to open a new one so paypal accounts are not hard to come by. $15 or $1500 it's the same principle isnt it? you should get the service you paid for regardless of money outlaid as you still paid the required fee's. And i am relaxed lol

Posted by Wheels, 08-24-2004, 06:26 AM
I have 2 paypal accounts, and only one bank account..... And i never had to give any bank details to paypal either

Posted by Adaera, 08-24-2004, 06:45 AM
You only have to give banking details if you want to be able to transfer money between PayPal and your bank account.

Posted by webspot, 08-24-2004, 06:48 AM
Like i said that takes about 5 minutes to open a bank account

Posted by mvp-hosting, 08-24-2004, 12:30 PM
The server is located on "The Planet" and his domain "onestopserver.com" runs out Sept. 8th 2004. I am pleading with "The Planet" for when they regain control of the server for his non payment if I can get the one site back that he has banned for no reason. I don't think they are going to allow me to do this but I am taking my last shot at it. With his domain expiring in about 2 weeks I'm sure he will quit paying for th server also or try a new scam with that server. If enough of us contact The Planet maybe we can get what ever sites back that we want. As for the money I think you are just SOL. If he does try this again with the same server maybe we can make The Planet aware of this so they will not let him run his scam at least off of their servers. I have no idea if any of this will work but I am grasping at straws right now because he banned a very important website of mine for no reason and I want it back. Anyone have any ideas other than finding his address and paying him a little visit?

Posted by Frmr1stopCustomer, 08-24-2004, 12:54 PM
I think that even finding him at this point would be near impossible. From what I have managed to put together through various chats, phone calls, and email sessions, he was leaching off his former partner until she kicked him out (this was the BC address that was posted in this thread last week). He went and moved in with some guy in NJ and basically did the same to that guy until he got kicked out of there. It was at this point that the server fell into disrepair and Jeff dropped off the face of the Earth. It's too bad that someone more competant and with a clue couldn't take over the server and turn it into the top-class hosting provider that it had the potential to be. Of course, the name is pretty much blacklisted at this point, so it would probably be for nothing.

Posted by onice, 08-24-2004, 02:01 PM
I have 2 paypal accounts, and only one bank account..... And i never had to give any bank details to paypal either -------- You only have to give banking details if you want to be able to transfer money between PayPal and your bank account. -------- Then what is the best way to receive a good service from oss? >>>>>>>>>That is the point isn't?<<<<<<<<<< Do not pay too much atention to paypal. (at least was an idea)

Posted by mvp-hosting, 08-24-2004, 02:38 PM
I've been in contact with The Planet and they will not be able to get any of the sites back to us even after they take the server back from him. I tried guys but I guess we can just chalk it up to a lesson learned. Time to move on.........

Posted by Plexi_Hosting, 08-24-2004, 02:57 PM
wow and they were selling to a lot of people on eBay too, my sympathy to those who went with this company.

Posted by johnsimpson, 08-25-2004, 07:05 AM
I sent an email to OneStopServer last night that actually managed to get a response. Here is the message I sent followed by the reply.... ----- Hello, As you are aware, your servers recently had some considerable downtime. My sites were unavailable for a few days which put a dent into my traffic but did not seriously affect my business. However, I did send a support email during the downtime which never had a response. Your support ticket system is down and from what I've been reading on one webmaster forum it sounds like you are ready to pick up and close down your server leaving your paid customers high and dry. Which brings me to my concern. As a customer of one of your reseller plans, I have a few customers who have paid me for hosting and I have a few of my own sites hosted on the plan. If there is any truth to the rumours I am hearing, I would appreciate hearing your side of the story. If you are closing up, you owe it to your customers to notify them so they can make other arrangements and not lose their sites. The rumour I have heard is that Sept 8 your servers will be shut down. Can you please confirm or deny this rumour. Thank you. John Simpson ------ The reply back was.... all the accounts are in process of being transferred to a new owner. i am pretty sure he is not going to cease operations. he may however change server companies in sept. all these accounts are technicaly not ours at this point, and have not been for almost a month. the oss name has just remained on the server until the transfer is completed, primarily for name server purposes as many customers rely on our name servers. --------- Nice of them to let their customers know what's happening isn't it? So who knows what's going on. Personally, I'm getting out while I still have sites I can backup. John

Posted by Adaera, 08-25-2004, 08:39 AM
Were you given any indication as to who the "new owner" is? I think at the very least you have a right to know whom you are paying your money to and what kind of track record they have--at least for those of you who will be staying.

Posted by johnsimpson, 08-25-2004, 09:26 AM
Sorry, what you see above is the only response I've managed to get out of these guys for a few weeks. Support is pretty much totally gone and who knows who this new new guy/gal is. Personally I can't imagine getting much future support since I'm paid until next spring. I'm going to keep my account open and leave one or two sites on it that I don't care about to see how things go. My important sites are already moving to another host. This one is paid monthly so I'm hoping that's enough incentive to keep up on the business in order to get paid. John

Posted by Adaera, 08-25-2004, 09:37 AM
Best of luck with your new host, at least things can only get better...right?

Posted by johnsimpson, 08-25-2004, 02:41 PM
Man, I just got my backup done in time. Good old OneStop is down yet again.

Posted by onice, 08-25-2004, 05:24 PM
is too bad, to me this guy is the same from web-experts.com and b0m.net, his real name can be Daniel Wensley, he did the same thing 4 months ago, same attitude, sites down, no support, also he sold his accounts and finally disappear. (?)

Posted by webring, 08-25-2004, 08:02 PM
This is certainly the longest that they have been down! :-( The last time I noticed (a week ago) the server status showed that apache had failed? Maybe they are in the process of moving? I will give them another day, then do my own moving to better reseller pastures.....

Posted by mvp-hosting, 08-26-2004, 12:17 AM
Well Jeff still must have his hands in the cookie jar! The site I have been working on getting back has now been deleted off of my account. He must be reading these posts and new I was trying to get my site back by contacting The Planet. He didn't delete any of my other websites from my reseller account just that one. In other words Jeff is still there and just being an *** hole. Jeff when you read this I will have to say you are the biggest piece of **** I have ever seen. There was no reason to delete that account other than to be cruel. Would love to meet ya one day Jeff and see what kind of man you are in person. Well good luck everyone and if you think someone else is taking over the server your nuts. It will be Jeff again with a new made up name to make it look like he is a new owner.

Posted by MSHadmin, 08-26-2004, 12:53 AM
Wow... This is beginning to piss me off... A lot... It's been almost an two days now that the site and server has been down. I've got customers (yes, I can't believe I got customers on this) that are breathing down my shirt ready to kill me. Where has this company gone? Anyone else gotten a response other than John? -Rick

Posted by mvp-hosting, 08-26-2004, 11:51 AM
You better check your WHM to see if your accounts are even there. I just checked one of my old sites I have on there and it is up and running fine. The prick may have done to you what he did to me and just deleted your accounts. The other thing is I don't check this server much anymore so it may be down all the time. I just check one of my sites and its up so I may have just checked it at a time the server was actually up. By the way he is down to only hosting 1596 accounts on his server...lol. That is down from 1604 when I last looked. Being that one of those accounts was mine...bastard! Good luck.....I'm moving on. By the way if you are looking for a great host that I should have stuck with in the first place go to vizhost.com. They have been awsome and I had them for over a year with no downtime. The reason I left is they don't have Fantastico but I would rather have a reliable server than have Fantastico on one that is down all the time. Had to go groveling back but they understood and were very gracious and didn't make me feel like a jerk. I am very happy once again and will not leave for what I think are greener pastures again.

Posted by scott717, 08-26-2004, 12:51 PM
Hi Tony, I read your post about your missing site, and wanted tell you several of my sites disappeared also earlier in the week. Then, by accident, I discovered they were still there, but couldn't be seen from a browser or through the WHM when I listed the accounts. But. When I attempted login through cpanel, It worked. FTP also. I went to WHM and looked at terminate accounts, and the missing sites were still there, just not in the account list. So I copied all the files down, backedup the databases through cpanel and phpmyadmin, Terminated the accounts and then recreated them. That did the trick. Anyway, I just thought I would let you know, so you could double check and maybe not lose your work. Good luck. Scott

Posted by MSHadmin, 08-26-2004, 02:02 PM
Scott, I've lost about 20 accounts this way in the past few months... Sorry I didn't respond with an answer before Service seems to have come back for now... Hopefully itll be fine for a while. -Rick

Posted by mvp-hosting, 08-26-2004, 05:27 PM
Thanks for the info. The only problem is that he banned my site so I can't even get into it anyway so I can check to see if it is there. Just thought it was funny that I have 14 other accounts and the one I've been bitching about wanting to save all of a sudden shows up missing. I'll see if I can see it somewhere but The Planet already told me there was nothing I could do to get it back. Thanks for the insite though in case something like this happens again on another server.

Posted by scott717, 08-26-2004, 05:57 PM
try logging in using ip:port instead of your domain:port... That worked for me once when I couldn't get in.

Posted by webspot, 08-26-2004, 08:23 PM
But of course anyone who know's anything would always have a backup of their work anyway right? So at absolute worst you should do a backup on a weekly basis so the most you would lose is one weeks data etc. I'd assume you had done some backup previously to the site going down...

Posted by mvp-hosting, 08-27-2004, 09:23 AM
Gee if I had a backup do you think I would be bitching and moaning about it. Give me a break. I already said that he shut all the backup stuff off before I could get to it. Didn't figure I would have this problem but yes I don't have a current backup that would help. But I sure as hell don't need some smart *** like you coming in here stating the obvious that I didn't get a backup. If you don't have anything helpful to say you might want to keep your comments to yourself.

Posted by webspot, 08-27-2004, 09:33 AM
Here's something helpful ! ALWAYS back up your own work and NEVER rely on anyone else to do your work eg. "back ups" for you. I'm in the same boat as you too. I have 2 accounts on the server and lost some data that was stored in an sql but i don't come here complaining about losing the data nor should you cos you have no one to blame for that but yourself ! Number one rule of webdesign " Backup Backup Backup " Not rocket science is it.

Posted by ensermo, 08-27-2004, 11:04 AM
I agree with you webspot. But all of a sudden the backup function wasn't working. So then you have to do a workaround to get your backup.

Posted by mvp-hosting, 08-27-2004, 12:42 PM
Webspot your awsome! Don't you think I know I should have backed up my site? I know I failed as a human and made a mistake. I don't need that pointed out. I came here to explain my situation and what I was trying to do in hopes some person had a way to get my banned site off of the server. I don't need you telling me I should have had my site backed up. I suppose you walk by a car accident and tell the guy who ran into the tree that if he would have just been a little more careful things like this wouldn't happen. What you are doing is stating the obvious and I know what I should have done but for reasons of being busy and thinking I can do it later it didn't get done. I didn't come here to bitch but to look for answers and help. Your posts just don't seem to be much help! This is all I have on the subject because he has completely deleted my site now and there are no means or ways of getting it back so I need no further help or great advice from you on what I should have done. By the way Cpanel backup functions have been shut off for about a month now. When he would still reply to emails he told me it was taking up too many resources so he had to shut it off. If I was a bright human like webspot I should have figured I better get my webiste backed up but I am just not that wise I guess.

Posted by webspot, 08-27-2004, 07:23 PM
I am not trying to be a smart *** but it is frustrating to hear someone complaining about someone else when it could have been prevented by doing the basic things. cPanel backup function isn't the be all and end all. I back up my stuff be simply ftp'ing my site down to my local pc and then in the php my admin doing an sql export, like I said not rocket science. I am frustrated with business people's incompetency's and this onestop is definitely incompetent. In response to your car accident issue I think that you seem to be the type that would buy a new car then 6 months later go back and complain the tyres are wearing out lol. Anyway if I could have helped any other way I would but there is no one else to blame here sorry. Onestop is a thing of the past we all lost our money and some sites and I hope we all move to greener pastures and not complain about our own mess ups there. Good luck with your sites in the future and remeber the golden rule.

Posted by connectgo, 08-28-2004, 02:37 AM
Onestopserver is not run by Jeff anymore, I finally got a response from him, by saying I wanted to upgrade my account and he told me that he sold it and it is transfering owners, I lost 1 account, and some other accounts I had to do some crazy stuff to get back up so I can get off that server, HUGE pain in the *** let me tell you. All these resellers oversell like hell. Onestopserver had over 2000 accounts, Hostgator, which has good support, has over 1500 accounts on their server, I'm in the process of getting rid of them, and moving everything over to dedicated, my servers will never have more than 500 accounts on them, if any body wants hosting on a non-overloaded server, I can do that for you and I'll put that in writing.

Posted by Frmr1stopCustomer, 08-28-2004, 03:08 AM
I hate to say (type) it, but after dealing with Jeff on several occasions in the past, as well as seeing some of the tactics he has used, I would not be surprised if his "purchaser" is not simply himself trying to start with a clean name. It seems oddly convenient that someone came in and bought the company from him at just the right time, with all the bad publicity coming in. Bleh... whatever though. I got burned by him already, and now know to steer clear of him and anything even remotely affiliated with him. For the trouble it's taking, it's now just easier to buy a self-managed server and do it all myself... at least then if there's a problem with the webserver or SQL, I don't have to depend on someone else's support system... plus, it's a great chance to really further my knowledge in server management. It's a real shame that he had to be such a putz and screw so many people over though... and not even bother to give them all a full explaination ahead of time as to what was going on.

Posted by connectgo, 08-28-2004, 03:30 AM
we might as well refer to him as "jeff" because he has blank whois data, who knows what his real name is or what his next fake name will be.....only advice I can give to people is stick with companies that have been around awhile

Posted by Abysmal, 08-30-2004, 08:39 AM
So, I myself am a customer there, and have had the same problems of accounts disappearing, and other strange things.. What worry's me is the whole sale thing.. the "new owners" as of yet have not mass emailed us customers, and or even looked at any support tickets.. This is the second time I have been with an ISP the has been "sold" and service was great for exactly 1 month after.. thats why my business went to onestopservers.. I think that my third choice will be scrutinized a whole lot more..

Posted by connectgo, 08-30-2004, 12:59 PM
I have never offered reseller accounts, but I just fully configured my cpanel server which was a crazy task, I am ready to start selling accounts, but I'm doing it differently, I would never have more than 5 resellers on 1 server, because that can lead to 2000+ accounts on 1 server. there is some tool you can use to see how many accounts are on a server but I don't have the link I'm sure someone here does. My servers will be limited to 5 10GB reseller accounts, and the rest of the server will be used for customers that we host just their 1 site. Onestopserver probably had a few hundred resellers, I was never even able to use 1/10 of my space over there.

Posted by webspot, 08-30-2004, 07:51 PM
I just received this email from the new owner My problem is they agree they have bought the accounts from onestopserver but will not honor the accounts ! If they have bought the accounts then the too have to agree to the terms of service that were in place on sign up. Meaning surely they cannot say thanks for the 12 month subscription but your only getting 3 months ! What are your thoughts ? Also i think the 99cent site feels a hell of a lot like the onestop site.

Posted by connectgo, 08-31-2004, 01:49 AM
I would highly recommend anyone reading this do not buy from this 99centwebhost

Posted by SFSunMedia, 08-31-2004, 02:33 AM
Technically they are deleteing all our onestopserver accounts on September 15th and want us to resign up with the new owner to keep our sites up. While knowing some customers have already prepaid a years worth of payments like me. That's bs.

Posted by webspot, 08-31-2004, 02:40 AM
Do you have some inside info connectgo ? Partial whois data : Domain Name: 99CENTWEBHOST.COM Created on: 05-May-04 Expires on: 05-May-05 Last Updated on: 05-May-04 It's a new domain as you can see, not a tried and tested company by any means.

Posted by ChrisBowd, 08-31-2004, 08:01 AM
I use onestopserver just for a test site but even so I resent being told by 99centwebhost that they are going to terminate my account when I still have 6 months bought, paid and contracted for. My attorney (in a phone call that probably cost about 50x my onestopserver annual fee :-)) advised me that if they terminate the accounts 99centwebhost will be in clear breach of contract. They are also pretty stupid because I would think the only logic for them to acquire onestop was to get the renewals business from its users! Anyway, hopefully this thread will be indexed by the SEs and anyone thinking of dealing with OneStopServer.com (which has a new site) or 99CentWebHost.com will be warned DON'T!!!

Posted by Abysmal, 08-31-2004, 09:25 AM
I just registered in April with 2 separate accounts, now all of that is gone!! (Well 9/15/04).. Guess, where these sons-of-hosts can stick their server! Abysmal - From the hosting fires of hell!

Posted by ensermo, 08-31-2004, 09:58 AM
I don't know how things work in the US but here in The Netherlands if a company A "takes over" another company B they have to accept the prior contracts made by the company B. Under no circumstances can they just ignore them or change the contracts. Only if company B has been declared bankrupt by a judge can they do that but still they will have to cashback all payments made by customers of company B. (I just love it to have so many law students around !!!. I ask a question.. they discuss it and give me the answers! lol)

Posted by ChrisBowd, 08-31-2004, 10:15 AM
I guess the truth is that even in this era of relatively low disk and bandwidth, any host persistently offering "all you can eat" for a few bucks a year is on its way out. No doubt there is a sustainable business model that can be built by initially allocating capital to "loss lead" and buying some credibility and brand awarebess with initially cheap offerings (even Tina on AffordableHOST does that :with her 1penny reseller deal at present-) ) but at some point the costs have to be lifted for new accounts otherwise it becomes a deliberate scam or failure through cash flow stupidity. I reckon that in the present market the minimum sustainable pricing is probably the OpenBluHost levels (i.e. 500 Mb + 25Gb at $3/month) and then the plethora of 1Gb + 40Gb (and up) packages sold by some hosts for around $7/month. While I love a 'bargain' and (just bought another eBay nightmare for $5.50!), I would never host one of my commercial sites on such a package.

Posted by ChrisBowd, 08-31-2004, 10:21 AM
ensermo, Good point. 99centwebhost are simply acting on the assumption that noone will spend $2,500 on filing a lawsuit against them over a $5/year hosting account.

Posted by ensermo, 08-31-2004, 10:45 AM
I got enough free law students who would be willing to do this. Just to have it on their CV (Resume). Just that they won't be able to practice law overseas. So maybe it's up to one of you guys to get some cousins, nieces or friends at Standsford or Harvard and let them have some real world practice with this company

Posted by ensermo, 08-31-2004, 10:50 AM
BTW. I don't really care about my $50 I paid. but it would be nice if someone did something so that these "overnight summer camp fifteen year old manager hosting companies" stop coming out like mushrooms and giving the real good companies a bad name. And isn't it so that if you win a civil case the loosing party has to pay all expenses? A big lawsuit and enough propaganda will keep people from opening "for fun" hostingcompanies

Posted by connectgo, 08-31-2004, 12:38 PM
I don't have any info on onestopserver or 99centwebhost, most likely it is the same guy, or one of his friends, since the begining this guy never really gave any real contact info, and had hidden whois data, there's no reason to hide your whois data unless ur planning on scamming

Posted by onice, 08-31-2004, 04:58 PM
I would highly recommend anyone reading this do not buy from this 99centwebhost<-- TOTALLY AGREE!!! -->I don't have any info on onestopserver or 99centwebhost, most likely it is the same guy, or one of his friends, since the begining this guy never really gave any real contact info, and had hidden whois data, there's no reason to hide your whois data unless ur planning on scamming<-- YES, I THINK THE SAME, I AM VERY SURE IS THE SAME PERSON. Me too, I didn't get any advicing email.

Posted by Abysmal, 09-01-2004, 10:59 AM
I must say thanks to you guy's.. I wouldn't know what is going on.. the new company has yet to send me mail on the impending changes..

Posted by ChrisBowd, 09-01-2004, 11:35 AM
Well, I am not a reseller and I do not have a hosting business but I do have a couple of reseller accounts with some spare space on them. I will offer a couple of free 'temporary' shared hosting accounts to anyone that gets really stuck with OneStop and has a high-quality site that is not going to eat up half the available CPU or bandwidth :-) I can probably manage 5 accounts at 100Mb disk + 3Gb bandwidth. There will be no technical support (sounds just like OneStop :-)) because as I said I am not a hosting company and anyone taking up the offer will need to accept my providers TOS.

Posted by mvp-hosting, 09-01-2004, 04:42 PM
Well basically Jeff for some reason screwed up his first shot at having a company so he is pretending to have sold the company. Why you ask? He is out of money again! He is banking on people being dumb enough to think oh great maybe these guys will be better. Jeff is still around either living on the streets and using the public library computer or something in that reguard. He reads this thread for information. When I was posting about getting my site back it was all of a sudden deleted off my reseller account. Kind of funny how I only lost the 1 account I was trying to get back. As for filing a law suite it just isn't feesable and Jeff knows that. Unless you had someone who had deep pockets and just wanted to prove a point. If you sign up for this 99 cent host crap your just paying Jeff so he can get some money to live off of again and when all of his money runs out he will just do the same thing again and again. There are people on this board who know him and have personally delt with him but I being one did not listen. Remember the old saying "Fool me once shame on you! Fool me twice shame on me!"

Posted by connectgo, 09-01-2004, 04:59 PM
I know for a fact this is not his first shot, he did this before, when he had a forum on his site there was someone on there, a former business partner who was bashing him for his business practices, but he was there providing awesome service and everyone loved him, this is at least his 3rd company.

Posted by mvp-hosting, 09-01-2004, 05:47 PM
Yep I stand corrected you are right I do remember that. He told me that is why he took the forum down. Well as long as everyone is aware of what he is all about. I did take a look at the 99cent website and it does have a little smell like Jeff with a little different flavor so buyer beware. When a company buys another company they buy the assests and the liabilities. In this case they are buying the client base and making the clients pay again which is illegal. I just checked with our Lawer here at our company and they could be turned in to who ever and their business will be shut down. This is why I am sure it is Jeff doing this again. Any legit company knows you can not make clients pay again for something they have already paid for. Also keep an eye out for the ebay stuff. This was the way Jeff got everyone to buy in. He told me that 99% of his new clients came from his ebay stuff. He was telling me all this stuff when he wanted me to buy a dedicated server from him....lol. Don't you find it at all odd that only one person knows of this change and that person initiated the email. Good luck everyone and hope you all find a good provider this time. I was lucky enough to get my old provider back and am once again very happy.

Posted by Abysmal, 09-01-2004, 06:50 PM
Hows about we find out where he is and just have ourselves an old fashioned lynching!! Any takers?? Hmmm.. well maybe a virtual Lynching..

Posted by SFSunMedia, 09-02-2004, 03:32 AM
Well I'm moving all my sites to a dedicated server from EV1 soon so hopefully happier days are to come.

Posted by genome, 09-03-2004, 01:41 PM
if i didnt have to wait for my passport coming through, i'd join you abysmal

Posted by LAServerShack, 09-03-2004, 05:07 PM
I hate OSS "JEFF"ignores me i have sent linke 10 email and still no responce. also take alook at this andI have a felling that is is our "jeff"

Posted by gorky, 09-04-2004, 06:19 PM
Say we hire hitman?

Posted by LAServerShack, 09-04-2004, 06:51 PM
this might seem to be off topic but: did anyone that used oss get the mydoom virus mailed to the email they used to signup? i had a thought: i got it and i checked the header and found it came from a verizon ip and if i was right on my last post them "jeff" got the virus and i have his ip? i am not sure but....

Posted by Abysmal, 09-04-2004, 10:43 PM
Hey.. quess what I just got in the mail.. the "new owner" at onestopserver just got off his *** and sent me my GTFO Letter.. (Thats Get the F___ Out) ... jeez and only a week after others.. I wish there was a way (legal of course) we/me/us/sombody could return this guy the favour!

Posted by SFSunMedia, 09-04-2004, 11:38 PM
Well they just sent me that email as well. I went to 99centwebhost and sent them a support ticket asking if the onestopserver customers who aren't paying month by month and have prepaid a year will have to sign up again to keep our sites.

Posted by LAServerShack, 09-04-2004, 11:47 PM
hello i emailed them right after i got it and 99 cent web<"jeff"> has not replyed it has been about a week so....

Posted by ChrisBowd, 09-05-2004, 08:20 PM
I emailed them the moment I got their email last week. If they/he cut my site then its clear breach of contract; not that its worth doing much about. As I mentioned earlier it will cost more than a year's worth of eBay dedicated server just for a first attorney's letter :-)

Posted by LAServerShack, 09-05-2004, 08:46 PM
are you still offering this i really need to get off oss it is going down more often now. site not for testing less than 100mbs need for week or two till find new host thank you more detils in pm

Posted by LAServerShack, 09-05-2004, 09:29 PM
i sent you the info in your pm thank you

Posted by ChrisBowd, 09-05-2004, 10:54 PM
i will need your email for the account setup and then to send you nameserver data etc. i set you up with 3 mySQL databases. you can test the account and see if it suits you. its on an AffordableHOST reseller package so it will be fast + reliable. You can use it for up to 3 months - maybe longer if I dont need it (which I may not because I am getting a dedicated server today/tomorrow).

Posted by LAServerShack, 09-06-2004, 12:15 AM
i sent the info to your pm

Posted by LAServerShack, 09-06-2004, 01:02 AM
Hay did you get my info?

Posted by Abysmal, 09-06-2004, 01:23 PM
Its nice too see that there still are decient people still around.. All of you guys offering temporary hosting help is much apriciated.. This is the third time this has happened to me in the past year.. I have lost roughly $250 bucks and have decided to stop in the reseller business, my primary function was to helpout friends, family and co-workers with webhosting.. basicly on a cost basis (I made no profit) and becuse of people like Jeff and the last guy I delt with (clientblue.com) its not worth the hassles.. It is nice to see other like ChrisBond and others here still honest people trying to help!

Posted by ChrisBowd, 09-06-2004, 02:01 PM
thanks for the nice words. i am not a reseller, i just have a lot of reseller domains I pick up for all the domains i own. just like you i only ever provide accounts ti friends + family. still, either tonight or tomorrow I am supposed to be contracting a 3Ghz 240Gb dedicated server and I was thinking of providing a whole bunch of free accounts for non-profits. its nice to put something back in and it beats the hell out of the $000s i waste every month on attorney fees :-)

Posted by LAServerShack, 09-08-2004, 12:23 AM
spiny:hello First Thanx chris, works great. sec: THIS IS A REMINDER Domain name: onestopserver.com Registrant Contact: One Stop Server Networks One Stop Server Networks (admin@onestopserver.com) 000-000-0000 Fax: 000-000-0000 Route 17 Carlstadt, NJ 07072 US Administrative Contact: One Stop Server Networks One Stop Server Networks (admin@onestopserver.com) 000-000-0000 Fax: 000-000-0000 Route 17 Carlstadt, NJ 07072 US Technical Contact: One Stop Server Networks One Stop Server Networks (admin@onestopserver.com) 000-000-0000 Fax: 000-000-0000 Route 17 Carlstadt, NJ 07072 US Billing Contact: One Stop Server Networks One Stop Server Networks (admin@onestopserver.com) 000-000-0000 Fax: 000-000-0000 Route 17 Carlstadt, NJ 07072 US Status: Active Name Servers: DNS1.ONESTOPSERVER.COM DNS2.ONESTOPSERVER.COM Creation date: 08 Sep 2003 04:57:46 Expiration date: 08 Sep 2004 04:57:46 THAT IS WED then they are And of cource they are down Last edited by LAServerShack; 09-08-2004 at 12:27 AM.

Posted by Abysmal, 09-09-2004, 02:22 PM
And as of 2:20 EST on Sept 9th 2004 the main server is still online.. My accounts have seemed to dissapear.. Hope everyone got everything off the server..

Posted by LAServerShack, 09-11-2004, 10:30 PM
99 Cent web host IT IS JEFF STAY AWAY MORE iNFO SEND PM Last edited by LAServerShack; 09-11-2004 at 10:34 PM.

Posted by ChrisBowd, 09-12-2004, 12:18 AM
I only ever spent $3.99 on OneStop (at that time he was trading as TheBestHost) so I am not concerned by the 'loss'. I am irritated at the guy's fraudulent attitude though and would like to try to do something (even though it will cost a lot more than the annual account) to stop him and his type from being able to scam people. Maybe one option will be to get as many OneStopServer clients together as possible and put together a letter of complaint to send to both the data center that hosted the server (who will of course respond that its none of their business) and also to the DA's office in the same state as the data center. The DA's office couyld then subpeona the datacenter to get "Jeff's real information" and then take it from there. To get the DA's interest though we would probably need at least 50 - 75 signatures on the letter of complaint. Otherwise we just forget it and post on a few forums around the Web to get the message out to people to avoid 99Cents.

Posted by LAServerShack, 09-12-2004, 12:26 AM
WERE DO I SIGN!!!!!!!!

Posted by TJames, 09-12-2004, 02:22 PM
Hey Darran, It is not a place for advertisment. I guess you are new in hosting business, hence you are not aware of all the "real facts". Hey MSHadmin, how about leaving the kid alone, its his business, let him handle him the way he want!! It is upto him to provide whatever he wants, and if you dont like it, than dont buy it, though I do agree that in realistic terms unlimited is not possible, but that doesnt mean that it cant a be a successful formula!! Check out integrityhost.com, their business model is this very same "UNLIMITED" thing only, and they have monthly revenue of $20,000 USD, which I believe you probably wont even make in an year. So once again, let him learn up his own way, no need to be his mom!!

Posted by MSHadmin, 09-12-2004, 02:38 PM
So true, so true Sorry 'bout the blast, just had so many bad experiences with unlimited hosts... No hard feelings... (gotta love the smileys ) -Rick

Posted by ChrisBowd, 09-12-2004, 08:43 PM
Very true on IntegrityHost - and the guy supposedly sold the business (on the same eBay he launched it) for $125k+.

Posted by Abysmal, 09-12-2004, 11:20 PM
Hmm.. sold the business.. we all know what happens to great hosts that "SELL" thier business... Do I have to provide examples????

Posted by ChrisBowd, 09-13-2004, 12:01 AM
From what I hear IntegrityHosts' service is already suffering. Every two weeks or so I get an urge to rent a few dedicated servers and set up a hosting company but I never do because I know its a lot of work. The problem is too many people get involved thinking its an easy way to make cash from home with minimal commitment. They would do beeter to use their cash to buy lottery tickets. After 27 years in busines if there is one thing I have learned its that customers weigh a lot (on your shoulders) :-)

Posted by Core, 09-14-2004, 07:48 AM
Count me in and tell me where to sign I see the Florida PO Box listed for the Andrew guy... I don't live all that far from there, maybe I could take some vacation time and go sit in the post office waiting for someone to open that box.....

Posted by Abysmal, 09-14-2004, 10:59 AM
I'm in Canada, but count me in.. Add that international flair to the whole thing!

Posted by ChrisBowd, 09-14-2004, 11:19 AM
OK, thats 4 of us, only another 46 or so required :-)

Posted by onice, 09-15-2004, 01:54 AM
one more here.

Posted by gorky, 09-15-2004, 07:52 AM
Count me in, lets teach this bastard a memorable lesson! Im from Europe, the old continent is here!

Posted by mvp-hosting, 09-15-2004, 11:28 AM
I'm in! Too bad someone doesn't really know where he lives so some people can go confront him personally. I know if he lived here I would for sure go and pay him a visit.

Posted by CrewXp, 09-15-2004, 10:16 PM
count me in. Here's the notice that was sent to all onestop customers. After I sent them an email saying I just registered for a year 5 months ago, plus sent an ip fee about 4 weeks ago, they sent me this:

Posted by crazyboy2004, 09-16-2004, 12:29 AM
I'm in!........ count with me........ I lose Money ........ if Jeffrey Kadan...... does not respond we published a page in Internet Information <> But I don't Know ...... TRUE / FALSE Because Whois 99centwebhost.com ... Andrew Serpe ... Address in Florida BUUUUttT Your email is " akidat45@verizon.net " Last edited by anon-e-mouse; 09-16-2004 at 01:23 AM.

Posted by SFSunMedia, 09-16-2004, 01:34 AM
well here's my story, two weeks ago I sent 99centwebhost a support ticket asking why they do not honor my onestopserver plan (still unanswered). My plan with onestop doesn't expire till next year, fully paid too. You can't buy a business and leave all the old customers hanging that have already paid you for a service.

Posted by Abysmal, 09-16-2004, 08:07 AM
Hey Crazyboy.. is Jeffrey Kadan the old owners real name?? If so where did you find out this info?? Abysmal

Posted by crazyboy2004, 09-16-2004, 01:49 PM
Hi Abysmal ......... I got ......... Info because a Boy sent a report to Paypal ......... Copy Your Name........ But if Jeff Lie to Paypal ........ I don't Know......... The Real Name Provided by Paypal ........ Jeff Kadan / Jeffrey Kadan ....... Boy Please ......... Send a Report to Paypal ....... It 's Necessary ...... Also .......... I lose One Full Year .......................... More info send a email to babyface_2004z@hotmail.com Ok. Last edited by crazyboy2004; 09-16-2004 at 01:57 PM.

Posted by onice, 09-16-2004, 03:20 PM
You see?, we must report this guy to paypal also. I got this number when his info (whois) was there. PHONE: 917-292-3691 NYC. (JUN-03-04)

Posted by mizator, 09-16-2004, 10:50 PM
I got burned too. count me in I'm from Singapore

Posted by TJames, 09-17-2004, 02:38 AM
That is a cell phone number, he probably have changed it long time ago!!

Posted by MSHadmin, 09-17-2004, 06:37 PM
Guys, BIG update here... I was e-mailing back and forth with the owner of 99centwebhost and found out some interesting info... ---------------------------------------------------------------- Lets clear the air first what you have heard is hear say, I have yet to drop anyone other then about a handful of accounts for TOS violations (child porn and they were reported to the authorizes) and have yet been able to make contact with a large number of accounts which I have no contact information of bad contact info on who is or their web sites or just no response. These accounts will be put on suspension but not terminated. Resellers accounts will be suspended not terminated but their clients sites will not be shut down till we can make arrangements with the resellers. I did not buy OSS, I took over the server OSS that was just going to shut it down with no advanced warning to anyone including myself. I had repeatedly tried to get the account information from OSS but to no avail was unable to. I had no choice and have literally been keeping everyone afloat for over two months trying to get this all worked out. As a business I cannot afford to run this for free for everyone I must be able to pay the bills. From a headache point of view I should have just moved my site before the shutdown and let everyone else find that their site one day just disappeared. You are welcome to stay or leave this is your choice. Once I get this all worked out 99centwebhost will be a good company to deal with. I have also been offering resellers between 25% to 50% on our current costs to help offset some of their losses from OSS. ---------------------------------------------------------------- From what it seems, they've been dealing with over 1500 OSS customers banging on their doorstep... They didn't buy OSS, they bought the server that OSS was ON. I'm not sure that this has anything to do with the previous owner of the server that got kicked off, but whoever is running the datacenter isn't doing things right... OneStopServer was going to close, flat out, leaving all of us without our data and leaving Jeff to go move to Hawaii and do nothing for a while. 99centwebhost, a COMPLETELY different company, took control of the server, and saved our data (thankfully) so we wouldn't have as big of a loss. They can't feasibly keep our accounts up on the server; they set the date for revocation because they DIDN'T BUY THE COMPANY therefore they had no legal responsibility to carry out the terms. If anyone else gets more information, let me know... Here's the other e-mail that I recieved from them: ---------------------------------------------------------------- I can honestly understand how you feel. The parent company is Rave Review and has been in business on the internet since 1997 our tax ID number for the state of FL is #61-6012275337-5 ---------------------------------------------------------------- They're a REAL COMPANY unlike OSS. They have a real tax ID and have been in business since 1997... Look 'em up... Hope this clears up some issues! -Rick

Posted by gorky, 09-17-2004, 09:05 PM
Dont bul*s*it US MSHadmin! thet is the same person, look at this post this tells me everything: Andrew Serpe Owner Web Designer - Internet Consultant - SEO Lame designer, remember oss design and compare it with ravereview.com and 99centwebhost.com do you see resemblance? ****** design since 1997 Scaming people for 7 years, is this going to end? Cockroach Biology: Where the world's 4,000 roach species live, what they eat, and why some have chosen to make our homes their homes. Cockroach Behavior: How roaches sing for their supper, sleep upside down, and battle each other, plus the details of their steamy love lives. Cockroach Control: Effective strategies for keeping roaches at bay-- an arsenal of environmentally friendly alternatives to the atomic bomb. Cockroach Culture: from Aristophanes to Archy, Kafka's The Metamorphosis to MTV-- the rich legacy of roaches in song, dance, and contemporary cuisine.

Posted by MSHadmin, 09-17-2004, 09:53 PM
BS? Not sure that's BS as I did a little background research before posting unlike a lot of others that just made assumptions from e-mails and designs... Remember the old saying "Don't judge a book by it's cover"? That applies here. I'm done with this thread, just trying to help undo the bad rep that got put on 99centwebhost... -Rick

Posted by **rg**, 09-18-2004, 04:09 AM
There is a particular other website on the internet where some of you guys have been posting about oss. Someone there did some research about the guy you are all looking for and posted it to a separate thread: www dot nettalk dot us slash about4967.html (sorry - not allowed to post links yet) The only thing that makes me wonder about the information posted there, is that you can look up the verizon email address in question on usenet, and find lots of posts by "Andrew" (dating back to the late 90s) and if you read some of them, it seems that he really IS from Florida. So he is probably a real person.

Posted by **rg**, 09-18-2004, 05:26 AM
But he must have had advance warning if he was able to "take over". How else do you get to "take over" a server? Again, you can only move your site before a shutdown if you KNOW about the shutdown in advance. How did he know about the shutdown in advance? Sorry, just some questions...

Posted by mvp-hosting, 09-18-2004, 03:09 PM
All I have to say is if you give this guy any money you are nuts. This is either Jeff or one of his counterparts. I've talked to "The Planet". They would not let me get my one website I wanted off the server even if Jeff forfitted it and "The Planet" got the server back by default. "The Planet" told me that they could not do anything unless Jeff himself said it was OK. If Jeff didn't say it was OK they would have to wipe the server and then sell it to someone else. As this guy says that the server was abandoned and was going to shut so he took it over. "That is against "The Planets" terms of service because I asked about doing it. The only person who could keep this server going with the accounts still on it is Jeff. So in other words 99centwebhost is Jeff! If you don't believe me email support@theplanet.com and ask the question that if a server was abandonded if you could take it over and pay the monthly fees and keep all the accounts on there. The answer will be NO as it was to me. Get it out of your heads folks this is Jeff. Jeff is the only person it can be or "The Planet" would have wiped the server clean. Yes Jeff could have signed the server over the the guy with no problem but the guy said it was abandoned so BIG FAT LIE! Stay the hell away guys, don't let yourself get screwed again. By the way I didn't break any terms of service or anything and my reseller account is gone. The reason.......because I post the truth about Jeff so he just dumped me from the server to get rid of me.

Posted by crazyboy2004, 09-19-2004, 02:22 AM
OK EVERYBODY !!!!!!!!!!!!!! Send Your Report to econsumer.gov and Paypal.com ..... All with Problems ( /lose Money / Fraud) at OneStopServer ( OSS)...... Jeffrey Kadan / Jeff Kadan / need a Lesson ................... Andrew Serpe !!!!!!!! He lieeeeeeeeeeeee Who buy a Business with FRAUD ???????? theplanet.com Only have 1 server ????? OHH BOY Andrew Serpe .... Change Your business to another Data Center .... I will give you ONLY 1 WEEK ...... IF YOU DO NOT CHANGE , YOUR BUSINESS TO ANOTHER DATA CENTER ..... THEN YOU ARE " JEFF KADAN " AND YOU LIE TO PAYPAL .... YOU WILL GO TO PRISON ..... ONLY 1 WEEK ........ I HAVE APPROVED AN INVESTIGATION AT econsumer.gov , ONLY 1 WEEK ......... OR REFUND MONEY TO ALL PEOPLE Last edited by crazyboy2004; 09-19-2004 at 02:28 AM.

Posted by ChrisBowd, 09-19-2004, 05:05 AM
This is a bizarre situation. I also got the 'transfer or be cut' email from 99CentWebHost.com and immediately wrote to both 99Cent and OneStopServer to tell them that if they did drop me I would find out who they are and file a complaint against them. My site is still up although the email seems to hang every couple of days. I like the www.econsumer.gov idea and if enough of us add a complaint there referencing OneStopServer and 99CentWebHost the chances are that the US authorities will take note.

Posted by lcryan, 09-19-2004, 09:29 AM
wow, this is simply amazing that he is doing this to you guys, just spent a good half an hour reading all that. The spead of 99centwebhost is incrediable slow, legal action should deffinitly be taken if nothing else! You should all put together funds for a lawyer, and see if you can get a agreement out of him. Anyways good luck.

Posted by ChrisBowd, 09-19-2004, 09:33 AM
What we need is Erin Brockovich.

Posted by mizator, 09-19-2004, 11:05 AM
Wow. There's 1240 accounts on that single IP: whois.webhosting.info (slash) 67.18.64.148

Posted by mizator, 09-19-2004, 11:07 AM
and the IP for dns2.onestopserver.com has a whopping 63.251.163.115 - IP hosts 250887 Total Domains ... whois.webhosting.info (slash) 63.251.163.115

Posted by ChrisBowd, 09-19-2004, 07:30 PM
WTF?????? I just double-checked that on whois.sc and it gave a figure of 288,372 sites hosted on the IP.

Posted by mizator, 09-19-2004, 08:03 PM
seriously guys, does putting 1240 sites on 1 server seem a bit too much? i donno about the 250k+ (but they mostly seem to be those search type - domain typr-in traffic traps)

Posted by ChrisBowd, 09-19-2004, 09:31 PM
Multiple IPs can be homed on the same physical server so there are probably a lot more than 1240 web sites on the box. In principle you could put several thousand small Web sites on the same box provided each site only received nominal page views and did not use any databases or server-side (PHP, Perl etc.) scripting or provide any streaming video/audio. Put even one database intensive forum on a shared server and every other site will be struggling to get resources.

Posted by crazyboy2004, 09-21-2004, 12:46 AM
99CENTWEBHOST ( TITANIC ) All with Problems at OneStopServer ( OSS)...... Send Your Report to econsumer.gov and Paypal.com ..... Jeffrey Kadan / Jeff Kadan / need a Lesson ................... Andrew Serpe !!!!!!!! He lieeeeeeeeeeeee Who buy a Business with FRAUD ???????? theplanet.com Only have 1 server ????? OHH BOY Andrew Serpe .... Change Your business to another Data Center .... I will give you ONLY 1 WEEK ...... IF YOU DO NOT CHANGE , YOUR BUSINESS TO ANOTHER DATA CENTER ..... THEN YOU ARE " JEFF KADAN " AND YOU LIE TO PAYPAL .... YOU WILL GO TO PRISON ..... ONLY 1 WEEK ........ I HAVE APPROVED AN INVESTIGATION AT econsumer.gov , ONLY 1 WEEK ......... OR REFUND MONEY TO ALL PEOPLE Last edited by crazyboy2004; 09-21-2004 at 12:53 AM.

Posted by SFSunMedia, 09-21-2004, 09:24 AM
It would be nice to get a refund since I've paid for 12 months and only got 3 months of webhosting.

Posted by onice, 09-21-2004, 03:04 PM
It would be nice to get a refund since I've paid for 12 months and only got 3 months of webhosting -------- That's is correct, would be nice to make this guy give all the money back. Do not forget to report him to paypal also.

Posted by CrewXp, 09-25-2004, 07:41 PM
99cent said we would have till the 30th to find a new host. THEY SUSPENDED ME!! That's great, they probably did that because I filed a paypal claim with onestopserver.com, but.... If I filed a claim with onestopserver, not 99cent, how would that affect them? Maybe they are using the came creditcard, because it IS one person. If so, that would be fraud. Anyways, Im upset. I paid 70.00 for a year plan and only got hosted for 3 months. We seriously need to do something.

Posted by CrewXp, 09-25-2004, 07:46 PM
Also, I found this. This is an ad on another site. This has a zipcode, city, and state!! Maybe its useful... http://64.233.179.104/search?q=cache...twebhost&hl=en

Posted by CrewXp, 12-13-2004, 08:10 PM
Update: (310) 373-2770 PhoneNo. http://64.233.179.104/search?q=cache...opserver&hl=en

Posted by MSHadmin, 12-13-2004, 08:50 PM
Phone #'s dead... :/ -Rick

Posted by LAServerShack, 12-27-2004, 06:19 PM
Hello sry been banned for 2 months i found out 99centwbhost has nothing to do with oss they r now on a more reliable server different location i think i have talked with the owner if i hadnt found a new host and... i would go with them now he is just as p.......... as all of us r so........when i find jeff i am goin to...... last i heard he was in ca but.......

Posted by webspot, 12-27-2004, 06:25 PM
Don't believe everything you hear, that's just another tactic he has used in the past. But if your happy to pay for something twice then go for it. Oh and next time you need a new car come see me i'd love to take advantage of ya. Just joking lol I do suggest you move on and find someone new as 99cent have taken a big risk if they are new and they bought a bad rep with it.

Posted by onice, 12-27-2004, 06:40 PM
That is correct!! do not believe everything you hear!

Posted by LAServerShack, 12-27-2004, 06:42 PM
hello if i was jeff .... why would i start a post badmothin them both then ........ http://www.webhostingtalk.com/showth...5&pagenumber=1 as u can c.....

Posted by webspot, 12-27-2004, 09:31 PM
Who said you were ? not me ! but I did say you should move on and leave 99cent with the bad reputation they deserve ! as when it comes down to it they bought that rep from oss as thats what they paid jeff for right ? cos they obviously didn't pay him for anything else other than the opportunity to rip everyone off ! Anyone who has been associated with jeff and wants to be successful needs to prove themselves and 99cent has not done this very well. They asked us all to repay for what we already paid for !

Posted by LAServerShack, 12-27-2004, 09:43 PM
the owner saved every ones account when h moved and such the reson he took over the server was that jeff tricked him into it and jeff just disapeard one day 99cent was a customer of jeffs and jeff told him he did not want to haddle it and he was goin to shut down the server.......... that is were 99 cent came in he still hosted lll the oss acounts even though he said he was goin to suppend us but he did ent also to 99cent is now geek certified http://www.geekcertified.com/display-61.html it is a level 2 cert i was able to get all my files and stuff back and he says he will keep my space if u want i will get him to speak for him self on this board he has even better uptime than my current host withc is next to nothin so plz stop bashin this guy and leave him alone

Posted by webspot, 12-27-2004, 10:05 PM
I had 2 accounts that i paid 12 months in advance for. He sent me emails saying pay again or be suspended I said I wasn't repaying as I had already paid my due's. Account 1 was suspended immediatly but account 2 was active for about 3 weeks past the date he told me it would be gone, but it was susspended after that time. To me that's not bashing but it's mearly stating the facts ! I got ripped off by a combination of 2 hosts working together, OSS & 99 C. I am over it now and will never deal with a US based one man show, but if you want me to say he's a good guy FORGET IT !

Posted by LAServerShack, 12-28-2004, 10:15 AM
you noiall i wannted to do is help cleanup a mess i started but.. ok how much did u looses by oss? 99cent lost $99 and the cost of the server so believe wat u want but stop badmothin this guy u could not have lost that much could u? i only lost $10 so......

Posted by webspot, 12-28-2004, 05:42 PM
It's not about the money ! But your asking me to feel sorry for someone who took my account off me that I payed good money for, sorry he got associated with the wrong guy but he did. maybe he got ripped off too but I wont be buying hosting from him either as it wasn't a good business move on his part and i can't trust he'll be good from here on, can i ? I did not lose as much as him and WOW $99 aint all that either if thats all he lost damn why doesn't he change his name and leave this mess behind him too. The only reason I still post here is because people are still defending their actions and want us to do business with them hahaha that aint gunna happen bro NO MATTER WHAT !

Posted by LAServerShack, 12-28-2004, 07:04 PM
ok everyones entitled to there own opinoin so..... now let stop beaten a dead horse lol

Posted by webspot, 12-29-2004, 02:09 AM
we had, you bought it back to life. lol enuff said !

Posted by LAServerShack, 01-04-2005, 03:19 AM
hello i would like to agree with webspot once lol i sry for bringin it upagain i just wanted to...... ******mod can u plz close this topic if.........*****8**

Posted by Abysmal, 01-04-2005, 01:51 PM
I moved my business when this all started back in the fall.. are the paid yearly accounts still running?? I should check mine.. if I can remember the login .. Abysmal

Posted by webspot, 01-04-2005, 05:13 PM
no they are all long gone.

Posted by Adaera, 03-26-2005, 01:00 PM
All of you who once had annual subscriptions NEED to cancel them. I have refunded at least 5 to former customers of OneStopServer. You can cancel them through your PayPal Account. Those of you who didn't cancel your subscriptions, all I can say is -- you're lucky I'm not Jeff and just keeping the money -- it would've been an easy $50.00

Posted by 8inet-Johnathan, 03-26-2005, 03:51 PM
Why would you all open a thread thats over a year old ?? its easier to start a new thread...

Posted by Adaera, 03-26-2005, 04:03 PM
Sorry if that offends you; it was easier to reach the former OSS clients by using a thread they had all been posting in, don't you think? Some of them may still have it set to send reply notifications, the same as I do, so perhaps the reminder to cancel their OSS subscriptions will reach them faster if they no longer visit this forum as often. btw...if you notice, the posts previous to the ones made today were made in December 2004, hardly a year ago

Posted by webspot, 03-26-2005, 07:11 PM
Why start a new one ? when this is 110% on topic. I had already stopped my subscriptions via paypal but yes many may not have and should.

Posted by onice, 04-06-2005, 02:25 AM
You are right, I have to cancel my suscription (!) thanks a lot to take the time to post a brief note regarding to.



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