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Posted by VPSGuys, 05-26-2005, 09:16 AM
Does ANyone Knwo Where I can Get a FRee reseller? Just for the Time Being to get some Paying clients in and then move to a regular server? What do you think about ResellersPanal.com are they anygood to start with? I need some advise right now, if anyone will give me a free resellers for nwo that wold be great also.

Posted by Bofu2U, 05-26-2005, 09:24 AM
Do you really want to risk your reputation and customers on something that you received for free? I know I wouldn't.

Posted by VPSGuys, 05-26-2005, 09:28 AM
Nope Do I care? Not really as Long as I can get a Good Service and Give it to others as well I am happy. I just dont have money right now and I dont have a CC or a Bank Account I usally pay everything in Cach and thats why i need to get some clients built up and and move to a payment everymonth. if anyone would accually help me that would be great.

Posted by coight, 05-26-2005, 09:38 AM
Anyone know where to get free servers? We need some thanks

Posted by AntiSpamHosts, 05-26-2005, 09:42 AM
I can't help you, and I'll tell you, its because I dont support you. I'm not going to give you some righteous wo-hah about how my company would never do this or that, I'm just going to tell you that first and foremost, I am a customer. Just reading that last post makes me seriously sick to my stomach. "Do I care?" Wrong attitude, buddy. Its people like you that make this industry so worthless to try in anymore. Time and time again we've proven that you aren't gonna be able to provide good services while making money and paying nothing. Search the forum, you'll see hundreds, maybe even thousands of companies that did this and went straight down the toilet. And think of it like this: this board represents a needle in a haystack of all the companies that are out there. If you can't go to the bank, open up an account, drop a few dollars in there, then don't expect to be making lots of money. Web hosting is more than just space and transfer - its reliability and hard-work. I can see that you fail in both categories, so please, save iNet some bandwidth, and don't start a company. It'll save us some unnecesarry threads from someone who lost it all with someone on a free host.

Posted by VPSGuys, 05-26-2005, 09:46 AM
I wasn't talking about I dont care aobut my Clients or Customers. I don't care about my reputation as he said Do You care. I said no As Long as I can offer a good service.

Posted by Bofu2U, 05-26-2005, 09:47 AM
No, but let me contact the free data centers I know of To AntiSpamHosts: You my friend, explained it so well that I wouldn't even rephrase a sentence. Just to edit since I saw his new reply about his reputation. Your reputation is what gets you clients. If I came to WHT and starting saying that your services are lousy and your support sucked, I would be hitting on your reputation. Would people from WHT purchase from you after that? I doubt it. Your reputation is all that you have (for the most part). It's the #1 thing that you need to try to maintain and keep boosted at all prices.

Posted by AntiSpamHosts, 05-26-2005, 09:49 AM
So you dont care about your reputation? You think thats better than not caring about your clients? Oh bother...

Posted by VPSGuys, 05-26-2005, 09:55 AM
I Care about My Clients more then My Rep. but thats just me I dont want to get in Trouble for Fighting or Spamming or whatnot. So lets just go on and see if I can get some help here

Posted by Jason.NXH, 05-26-2005, 09:57 AM
What's the point of starting a business if you don't care about your reputation and further more, your clients. I certainly wouldn't bother unless you want to do things the right way! *ADDED*: If you really care about your customers, then you would care about your reputation more, because as the others said...it's what gets you your customers. If you really care about them, then you'll get something decent rather than get something free and have it backfire on you

Posted by VPSGuys, 05-26-2005, 09:58 AM
But I do thats not what I am Saying its what thier implying that I said.

Posted by anon-e-mouse, 05-26-2005, 10:08 AM
How are "potential clients" going to pay you? With cash?

Posted by VPSGuys, 05-26-2005, 10:09 AM
no Pay Pal

Posted by epsol, 05-26-2005, 10:09 AM
Well I just have to add my two cents here. If you think you are going to find a free reseller account that will be up more then 15% of the time, your kidding yourself. It takes money to make money. If the hosting industry was that easy to get into, there would be millions of people doing it, and it would eventually go into being completely in-house, since costs would be driven down so much. I am really curious what you expect to do once you find this amazing free reseller account? Do you have any type of plan on where to go from there? Also if you can find a free reseller account, what would stop people from using it instead of you? Customer Support would probably be the big thing. Problem there being, you aren't in complete control of the server -- you have to wait for them to fix whatever problems would arrise -- this having a huge impact on your rep. It is in my opinion you should go back to the drawing board and find a reliable reseller account to start with, yes you will have to pay for it, but hey, it will probably be more reliable and will at least be adding to the web hosting community, not mooching from it, or further giving it a bad name. I am mentioning this because I too, am in the process of starting up a web host..... Or better yet, expanding it to obtain clients off the internet, but I know there is alot of work to be done before hand; thus, it has not became live yet. I hope you really reconsider your planning......

Posted by VPSGuys, 05-26-2005, 10:15 AM
this is a good post here. If and when I could get a free resellers i wold then get clients that pay then after I find a Great reselling host that I like and can andle what I plan on I would move the the site and the Clients would pay for it, then after I get Enough I wold move to dedicated server. and So on. but only in time would this work.

Posted by cheezyal, 05-26-2005, 10:16 AM
Cant believe this guy. In this world, you get nothing for FREE. Do you really think its that easy to get something for free that you are going to make money on. NO. You have to spend money to make money. In most cases anyway. Look around here, If your serious about it, then there are plenty of deals to be had. Start with a small reseller account that doesnt cost too much. But it sounds like you have no idea what ur doing, so research first, look through these boards, there is a wealth of info here. Only when you know what you are doing, should you consider starting you own.

Posted by Bofu2U, 05-26-2005, 10:17 AM
Let me just put it this way, and most likely it will be my last post here since it's not really going anywhere. If we told you the name of a company and didn't say if it was good or bad, would you go with them anyway? Like, would you entrust your clients onto a server that no one's heard of, and has the chance of going down at any time (because you don't pay for it)? Or a company that has a bad reputation, but go with them anyway because they're free? Personally, I pay more than usual to companies that have a good reputation. For example, I know I would easily pay over $20 for 1 GB space and 20 GB transfer from RSHosting.com based on my experience with them. That's just me. epsol pretty much hit the nail right on the head. Also, based on your reply to epsol: You're trying to do this with zero liability. This isn't how things work. You have to take losses when you start (well, most of the time). You have to pay for what you use, or else they can yank it at any time. Wouldn't that suck? "We're getting our new reseller tomorrow, yay!" (all of your customers) "uh.. my account was deleted" Whoops.

Posted by anon-e-mouse, 05-26-2005, 10:19 AM
And yet you have no bank account or credit card? Weird that.

Posted by VPSGuys, 05-26-2005, 10:19 AM
Thanks For yo Help All of You But I just Solved My problam. but thanks for the ones who accually tried to help or what not. @ Refresh net I would have to check everythign out before I gave money or any thing. ALSso I though Since I am Around here ppl wold know something aobut it. Anyways. I see where all of you are coming from.

Posted by Bofu2U, 05-26-2005, 10:21 AM
Where did you end up going out of curiosity?

Posted by VPSGuys, 05-26-2005, 10:24 AM
Well http://helphousehosting.com is a freind Mike and he Accepts Money Orders.

Posted by swflnetworks, 05-26-2005, 10:51 AM
With all respect. I don't see you getting very far in this industry. Just from seeing here, I can tell you wouldn't be able to provide answers to your customers in a clear and decisive manor. Not to be insulting you or anything, but I fear for the industry that this topic even had to be made. I think you need to just go find a new "Get-Rich-Quick" scheme, kid. If one person on support used as many grammar malfunctions as you did, I'd run like a bat out of hell. ppl, capitalizations off-the-wall and everywhere, ur. Guys, whatever happened to English? Last edited by swflnetworks; 05-26-2005 at 10:56 AM.

Posted by VPSGuys, 05-26-2005, 10:54 AM
Money I dont want the money I just want to own my own hoting Company, I had a freind Named Neal one time he Owned a Hosting Company and didnt care about money but he moved to bigger things. and now hes doing great.

Posted by Bofu2U, 05-26-2005, 11:01 AM
Did he pay for his reseller? If he's "doing great" I highly doubt he received it for free. Edit: This is assuming that he started with a reseller, but I'm putting the question in general to whatever he started with.

Posted by VPSGuys, 05-26-2005, 11:03 AM
I dont know what he did I lost contact with him.

Posted by swflnetworks, 05-26-2005, 11:10 AM
Hmm, reason number 998 that makes this all too odd. Am I the only one who fears the "New-Generation" of people coming into the industry. Again, not trying to insult you.

Posted by Bofu2U, 05-26-2005, 11:19 AM
For the most part I fear anyone that ACTS like they're under 15. I say acts because not everyone under 18 (AD-Sam from WHT IRC and some others for example) act that way. If people want to give it a try, more power to ya. However, one thing that does scare me. The growing number of parents that say (something to the effect of) "my son (or daughter) is gifted and will succeed .. if I pay his 100 dollar celeron server bill". That just scares me, and believe me, I see some of the worst of that (my company is primarily based on the GameSurge IRC network, home of the gamers of Counter-Strike.. yikes.)

Posted by NeoGen, 05-26-2005, 10:47 PM
This is interesting! Can Any one help in finding a Free Server Host, so that I can sell Reseller and VPS accounts

Posted by Aussie Bob, 05-26-2005, 10:56 PM
Sure, here you go!

Posted by Steven.C, 05-26-2005, 11:08 PM
While I must say it is generally a joy to run a business, one must question why an individual would enter any business without money being some sort of motive? - Don't enter the business just to be able to tell your friend "I own my own hosting company." Be fair to the people/businesses that may be customers of an individual that doesn't care about his reputation. Why not work for free (don't care about the $ right...) for a small reseller startup? Help it grow....Just an idea....

Posted by NeoGen, 05-26-2005, 11:15 PM
HeHeHe... that was quick I am just increasing my expectations, can some one help with a Free Data Centre

Posted by ldcdc, 05-26-2005, 11:22 PM
Now that would have been something all right!

Posted by i-devs, 05-26-2005, 11:23 PM
In answer to your question, resellerspanel is what you want, paid programs aside. To my knowledge, there are two, and possibly only two hosting companies that have adopted this model, the other being bulixhost. Understand that there are pros and cons, either direction you go, and certainly a paid solution offers much greater control and flexibility. In regards to RP though..... RP is actually one operation of Liquid Net, Ltd. of which there are others operating under different, more traditional models. Ironically, you won't find much about RP searching anywhere... that said, I've rarely found any negative posts though either. In many ways, it is a great secret of the hosting world. They've had some issues with a couple of the new servers lately... but I guess that can be expected. They are incredibly responsive to the concerns, needs, and requests of their resellers.... live chat for resellers, added toll-free numbers for your customers for tech and even sales.... they offer 24/7 tech support to you and your customers. Recently added an API which you can implement into your site for a completely transparent setup, or you can use their template sites. All that aside, some of the previous posts also hit on some key issues... most certainly is, whether your reseller account is free or paid for, nothing in the end is free. Whether it is advertising or promotion, your time to build contacts, providing additional services, or whatever... in the end, don't be mistaken that there is no investment involved. I have no doubt that RP, because of their business model, has had plenty of signups who thought that they would get an account, setup a site... or just use the templates, and they could sit back and watch the money roll in as hosting customer after hosting customer bought their services. Whether it is hosting, web design, online or offline business... end of the day, business is business, and very little business happens just because you showed up. Give careful consideration in whatever you do, please reconsider your views on "your reputation," and good luck.

Posted by Steven.C, 05-26-2005, 11:43 PM
Maybe call these guys up...that might be able to work out a deal for a new rack for you. http://www.webhostingtalk.com/attach...&postid=577866

Posted by NeoGen, 05-26-2005, 11:47 PM
Please give me the contact number, hmm I would prefer the middle rack

Posted by deadlyromio, 05-27-2005, 02:02 AM
LOL



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