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Posted by MeToo, 10-10-2005, 12:26 PM
Mel and rrdega The earlier thread known as "Just in case anyone is thinking of using crediblehost" was closed with bonnmac having made two distinct date particular promises. 1. Mel would have a clear up or down indication by Friday 2. Bob would have been contacted with a resulution on the weekend. Did either of theses events occur?
Posted by rrdega, 10-10-2005, 08:42 PM
Nada... PM with contact info was sent to her here on the 7th, and was read by her almost immediately. This morning, I PM'd a follow-up, but she's not been back to WHT.
Posted by Leeo, 10-11-2005, 05:00 AM
Bob I thought you were definately gonna be contacted over the weekend?
Posted by MeToo, 10-11-2005, 08:41 AM
Have you had any contact with Mel to know what his status is?
Posted by rrdega, 10-11-2005, 01:45 PM
I sent Mel an eMail this morning. No reply as yet...
Posted by melh2o, 10-11-2005, 02:47 PM
Sorry rrdega, I just now received your email and have sent a reply. Bonnie told me she mailed the check on Monday of last week. I felt I would have had it by Friday but I was giving her the benefit of the doubt, once again, and waited until the mail run today to see if it came. I'll know for sure here shortly and will post it. Thanx, Mel
Posted by melh2o, 10-11-2005, 03:15 PM
Well, the mailman just run and NOTHING from Bonnie. I don't know why I'm surprised, she has yet to do anything she has promised since I first made her the loan. You guys have read her posts in the other thread, she has an excuse for everything and is very convencing. This is just one in a multitude of broken promises from her. She said, and I qoute, "I mailed the checks yesterday" on Tuesday of last week. That was not a promise to do so but that she had, so that means that she is a LIAR as well. I have her on my msn account and have not seen her online for a couple of days. I suppose that means she's ducking me now. What a game she has! "CHRISTIAN", what a joke! I didn't want to believe all the things I read in the other thread about CreditibleHost and her personally but it's the only conclusion one can draw. I am not one of her clients and can't speak on whether she conducts her business in the same manner. However, we have heard from clients who can in the other thread. My only option now is to file through the courts. Correction, I'm also going to make a concerted effort to get the message out to the entire webhosting community about her and CredibleHost. Appreciate you all, Mel Last edited by melh2o; 10-11-2005 at 03:26 PM.
Posted by BitterSweet, 10-11-2005, 03:32 PM
I guess the "check got lost"... If I were you, I wouldn't wait any longer, just report her.
Posted by AHFBWEB, 10-11-2005, 03:49 PM
2 years ago I got my butt chewed on these forums for commenting that Bonnie reminded me of Donna from angelnetworkz and that those who were defending her were just too close personally to her to be able to see clearly. I proved her to be an outright liar in the last thread, she has now proven herself yet again to be a complete fraud. I only hope that people will quit letting themselves get too close to those that they do business with. Make a choice business or friendship. Dave
Posted by MeToo, 10-11-2005, 03:58 PM
I hope we can refrain from cluttering this thread with personal antidotes and getting it closed as the last one was. This is an unbiased forum for bonnmac to respond and clear her intentions. The weaseling is over. No one is impressed with the hide and seek or the intent to shunt off the discussion with threats of electonic stalking prosecution. Just the truth!
Posted by Leeo, 10-11-2005, 04:08 PM
Mel & Bob I think your best bet is to get together and take her to court to get your money back even if she comes on these forums and promises to get your money to you in the next couple of days. Her business is obviously on very shaky ground and probably she does'nt actually have the money to pay you. At least you will get some sort of court order against her and she will have to pay you something. What I can't understand is why did she bother to come on these forums last time to defend herself and to promise Mel & Bob there money back - only to go back on these promises! What was the point?
Posted by drinkingteddy, 10-11-2005, 04:30 PM
eeeeek, im a crediblehost reseller, no probs thus far (2 years), am i the conductor of the band on the titanic or what??
Posted by MeToo, 10-11-2005, 04:33 PM
Read this thread and the over 100 posts in the previous (closed) thread and come back and tell us your comfort level.
Posted by drinkingteddy, 10-11-2005, 04:44 PM
well, im confused.... I hve had no down time in two years, the payment to them is pretty flexible and im reasonably happy. the only reason ive come across this thread is because is because 2 or 3 of my sites are getting so popular that my small reseller package is under threat of excess and i was looking for larger hosting... My comfort level was fine until i read these posts... perhaps someone could tell me as to as reasonable course of action someone might take, without such advice being emotive?
Posted by MeToo, 10-11-2005, 04:48 PM
That's a bit off topic here. Maybe you will want to scan the forums for some advice and options.
Posted by melh2o, 10-11-2005, 06:32 PM
I would like to commend the staff for leaving the other thread open as long as they did and completely understand why they eventually closed it. As an owner and Admin of other boards, I understand their delima. I hope my posts aren't misconstrued as bashing, they're not. I have spoken only the truth with no denial from Bonnie herself. I want the community to know what kind of individual Bonnie Mc. is before entering into any business arrangements with her or her companies. I doubt very seriously that she will respond to this thread, especially after she has lied to the people here in the last thread. You can be sure that if she does, it will be one of her better "who shot John's"! Mel
Posted by drinkingteddy, 10-11-2005, 07:00 PM
well, i ve read the other thread and have to say that i applaud bonnie for defending stones which seem to being thrown from some kind of lynch mob... Yes, if you have a personal issue regarding an unpaid loan then sort it out with the person you loaned the money to. if you lent money unsecured to someone you know well and they renaged on the deal then why play the drama out here.... If you lent money to someone you didnt know, then more fool you.. As for others who appear to love this "strength in numbers" hate mob, well, as bonnie has said, step out of the shadows and tell her your user name etc at CH... Not willing to...??? then STFU... As i said, ive 2 years at CH, great times, great support, no need to change, you got issues, shes explained she had problems so do yourselves a favour, change hosts and walk away.... So you lost a few $$$, whoppee... If your in business, wake up and smell the coffee..... Haha
Posted by ldcdc, 10-11-2005, 09:36 PM
You've probably missed the "rudeness is not nice" lesson, and apparently also the rules of this board. Leaving aside the fact that the sum involved is not a few $$$, it is empathy that often separates us from the mere animated beings. You will of course excuse us if we will use snide remarks if (God forbid) you ever come to the point where you end up venting your frustration on WHT.
Posted by melh2o, 10-11-2005, 09:55 PM
Well said ldcdc, some are a bit more understanding than others. You made some very interesting statements drinkingteddy. I applaud the fact that youve had good service since youve been a client of hers. If you have indeed read the posts in the other thread, then you would have seen where a good number of her clients have not. Bonnie has even admitted that in the same thread, along with various excuses as to why. I have been contacted by 4 other people that have had similar experiences with her. Im particular of one thing though, since you have read and taken part in these two threads, you would not make any kind of loan to her or her business! Thats the message I aim to get out. Im part owner in 4 different boards, only one has anything to do with Bonnie and none of the boards cost our members anything, or produce any kind of revenue. My partner introduced me to Bonnie and explained the predicament she was in. I talked to her before the loan and she played her Christian card then, she was very convincing. I admit I made a bad decision in making the loan, I was trying to help a Christian single Mom save her business. As far as your comment about me being a fool and taking the loss is completely incredulous on your part. My wife and I retired just over 4 years ago and are living on our pensions. I didnt loan her the money as an investment, I loaned to her trying to help someone in trouble. This money wont sink me but it is indeed a blow. Now, with all the things that have surfaced about her business practices, you step up to defend her? Hmmmm kind of suspicious especially when you take a couple of potshots at me and the others that have been critical of her. So whats your story bud? Do you have a dog in this hunt? Sorry but your statements come out of nowhere. Mel
Posted by melh2o, 10-11-2005, 10:11 PM
Maybe I should clear something up. Don't feel sorry for me because my wife and are retiree's and living from hand to mouth, that is not the case. I'm only 56 years old and retired as Administrator of the local utility board, my wife retired from Bell Telephone. Our kids are grown and we made the decision to retire early and enjoy our latter years. I was able to loan Bonnie the money and did so because I thought she was decent, christian, single mother in trouble. I've been fortunate and have been willing to help someone less fortunate. Maybe you can understand now why I've waited a year before coming after her. I wanted to believe she was honestly trying to get her business on it's feet. Once I found out that she had not only deceived me but others as well, I decided to do what I could to keep it from happening to someone else. Oh, I do want my money back but it's not my only goal. Thanks for listening, Mel
Posted by OzyWebHost, 10-11-2005, 10:22 PM
Having read the other thread as it unfolded Mel I do feel for you and agree with Dans' comment above. I hope and pray that you are repaid in the near future and can get on with life
Posted by rrdega, 10-11-2005, 10:33 PM
Bingo! I could not have said it better...
Posted by drinkingteddy, 10-12-2005, 04:30 AM
yeah, why not... If ive had a good experience with a service (albeit one that might eventually go sideways), then i step up to say so when i read how a kangaroo court has found the accused guilty of all charges and is now being carted off by the lynch mob. rule of thought No1... If you bring something to the public arena, dont expect everyone to subscribe to your line of thought. All im saying is, 2 or 3 people appear aggrieved, she clearly has problems but has still come over here defend herself. She has even entertained some of the more ridiculous issues (from people who wish to stand in the shadows) and to be honest this has only served to dilute the genuine arguments... Now, some grieviences do appear genuine but they are private matters that are now being played out in the public domain. The debtor has said she intends to resolve the matter so a, what else is there left to say? b, what has it to do with anyone else? Sorry, am i missing something..
Posted by rrdega, 10-12-2005, 07:42 AM
I think so... Others can probably say it much more eloquently, but basically, Web Hosting is an unregulated industry. As such, it tends to be fraught with "Fly By Night" operations. There is no overseeing agency, or authority... WHT, IMHO, with its 117,505 Members and Rule-With-An-Iron-Fist Moderators Group, is about as close as you're going to get to an "objective" Peer Group. So, when there is a question of impropriety on the part of a Web Host, where better is there to go to have the issue aired, and to let the public know what is going on? You may call it a Lynch Mob if you like... And I have to admit, it seems there are many that keep the tar warm, and chickens plucked... But if you look further, you will see that this "Web Host Court" is just as quick to turn on an accuser, and rip them to shreds, if a complaint turns out to be unfounded... Bonnie started CredibleHost by promoting it through WHT... Many {most?} of her clients are attributable to WHT recommendations, including yours truly... So if trends have changed, and are still changing {out and out lying, promises continuing to made and broken, new domains/businesses popping up under her "management," etc}, then it certainly needs to be documented here... p.s. The "Rule-With-An-Iron-Fist" comment is meant as a compliment to the Mods, as without such these forums would deteriorate quickly!
Posted by MeToo, 10-12-2005, 08:30 AM
I started this thread to ask one question in two parts. Bonnie appeared here and made two date particular promises. I asked did she fulfill either commitment? The answer is according to Mel and Bob, NO! She may send an apologist by occasionally to try and throw the thread off topic but so far has no explanation as to her lack of commitment. That is not the makings of a kangaroo court or any of the other silliness suggested. That is simply hiding from your word. That is significant to thinking clients whether existing or potential. I too say thanks to WHT for a balanced forum....
Posted by melh2o, 10-12-2005, 06:55 PM
I don't see a lynch mob, although there were several that spoke up about bad experiences with her and her company. I had no such expectations. I personally know of several that are satisfied with CredibleHost. But not any that were due $$$ from her. I brought my case to the public because private arrangements went nowhere for a year. The debtor promised alot and failed to deliver on any of it. a) you really don't have much to say and b) it may save someone else from falling for the scam! Sorry but you comments tend to get a rise out of me. You said enough by stating you were satisfied with what you get from CredibleHost. There was no need in you spouting off at the parties with grievances.
Posted by mctDarren, 10-12-2005, 11:17 PM
I tried to stay out of this thread, but alas, here I am. I was 'mct' over at the CH forums. I left there kicking and screaming because I didn't want to go. I loved the way the company was shaping up, and honestly thought it had the potential to grow into one of the top shared hosting companies around. I was forced out because when problems arose, the support was suddenly non-existant. I offered to help in any way I could but was turned down. I stuck it out through the week long downtime on one of the servers and things only seemed to be getting worse. So I bailed. I feel really bad how things have come about over there. I've worked out my issues with Bonnie. I truly hope it can be turned around. Anyway, your posts strike me as odd. There were periods where the only person who could fix an issue was Bonnie and she had not answered a support ticket or responded to an email or a phone call for days. I can't imagine anyone escaped the bad times over there unscathed or at the very least ignorant of what was happening. But if you did have a straight two year run, I commend you for coming here and saying your piece. Mind letting us know who you are over there? CH surely commanded loyalty from folks for a time, myself included. In fact, when I begrudgingly left a few people contacted me saying that they would stay simply because the past had been so great and they were hoping they could recapture that which once was. Again, I truly hope it all works out for all involved. Last edited by mctDarren; 10-12-2005 at 11:20 PM.
Posted by catfished, 10-13-2005, 01:17 AM
Hi MCT, I remember you from CH. I too hated to leave CH as I was there for some of the good times but it just got to the point that I could not afford to stay.
Posted by drinkingteddy, 10-13-2005, 03:10 AM
yeah sure, im a regular joe soap from the UK. I have multile sites hosted at CH including a few which are important.. The only reason i found this thread was thru the need in having to secure some larger hosting (which ive now acquired at polarnet). I stumbled across this by coincidence. And so anyone who thinks im some kind of "cloaked bonnie" then theyre very much mistaken...I dont even know the woman. Though incidently, these suspicious "cloaked posts", are the very same reason why i decided to write in this thread in the first instance. After reading the anonymous ("im a disgruntled customer") posts in the last thread, were just the kind of non-representative, biased and unbalanced wave of support which (to coin one of Mel's terms) gets a rise out of me and compels me to step forward to give an alternative perspective, thats all...... And sure Mel, your certain blend of sarcasm clearly shows your disgruntlement with my comments. So Iam sorry if I offend. Maybe you should have started the thread saying "only post if you wholeheartedly agree with me" ... Just a thought...
Posted by mctDarren, 10-13-2005, 09:10 AM
catfished: Hiya Ed! How they bite this year? @teddy: No, I didn't think you were Bonnie. Just struck me strange how your first post was almost a mocking laughter at the people who had lost money. I agree that the other thread took on the look of a couple people (not Bob and Mel) trying to incite the masses. But I do think Bob and Mel have legitimate complaints that need to be aired somewhere. Since the posts over at CH were removed, this would be the next logical place. Don't remember you over there, might be you didn't frequent the forums. Anyway, just curious - no offense meant.
Posted by ldcdc, 10-13-2005, 09:29 AM
Frankly, I fail to see how anyone could not agree with him considering that even Bonnie said he was right.
Posted by drinkingteddy, 10-13-2005, 09:57 AM
None taken, but im glad you saw my point. I have nothing but pity for anyone who lost money anywhere.. It seems that the more the internet evolves, the more chance there is in there being another victim. My own personal suffering substantiates that fact. It appears to me though that in this case it wasnt deliberate fraud more that the debtor got in over her head and was struggling to sort it out. As i say, ive had nothing but good service from CH. And as i said in my first post, clearly there has genuine issues here, Bonnie came and tried to pacify and explain. Though the more she did (is it a she?), the more these others came out saying, for want of a better phrase "you are ****". She then asked for example, evidence and / or user name from these guys and they werent forthcoming. Which is where i was coming from. I find anonymous stone throwing more dispicable than not being able to repay a debt. If my post therefore came across as being mocking to anyone who has genuinely suffered, i apologise sincerely. But there comes a time when losses suffered is outweighed by revenge. the damage that would have clearly been done by "why you should not use CH 1" and "why you should not 2" clearly will and has had a grave affect on her business so my reason to post an alternative opinion comes from this corner...
Posted by mctDarren, 10-13-2005, 10:28 AM
I don't think the outset was deliberate fraud, although the actions after the fact are certainly in question. Just because you don't set out to rip someone, getting in trouble and then ducking the fact that you owe them is just as bad if you ask me. She has admitted her debts and promised to make good. What remains to be seen is what she'll do next. I think the problem here is that there are a couple of posters in this and the last thread who have taken up some sort of crusade; and anonymously, you're right. But it certainly does NOT rule out the fact that Mel and Bob have legitimate complaints about what happened to them. I think you're meshing all the posts into a "mob" and dismissing them all as fodder. That's just not the case. I think the fact that customer support was practically abandoned over at CH for a spell, coupled with the fact that she openly admitted to lying to her customers about a server issue did more to damage her business than a thread here on WHT. Clients post negative messages here on WHT all the time. There are defenses presented and supportive posts as well. It's a fact of life for a webhost. I'm reminded of my high school football coach, who used to say to us all the time, "It's a real good life if you don't weaken!" If she stays strong she can pull this out. But first she needs to make right that which was wrong. Without people posting here, it'll never happen. Before I duck out of this thread, since I feel like I'm steering it the wrong way, I would like to ask Mel if the check has arrived?
Posted by MeToo, 10-13-2005, 10:30 AM
You finally quoted the issue succinctly. This is not about you or kangaroos or any of the other ballyhoo surrounding that. She did appear here. Once again the explanations were evasive, self serving, finger pointing at third party bystanders and as we now know wholly unreliable. I would still like her to explain how she charged Mel almost $8000 in unauthorized charges. She wants to shunt the blame to EV1. That will not stand the test of logic. She wants us to believe EV1 charged a CC of convenience that did not appear on her record as the approved CC (which only she could have controlled) . All this while she is oblivious to the $8000 debt disappearing at a time when she was almost particular to be unplugged and had no alternative way to pay. Bunk! Adding to that EV1 summarily unplugged her at that time leading to the notion that the $8000 was never paid by any means after they corrected the fraudulent charges. Of course she will not appear here because the record is now too clear to sidestep.
Posted by MeToo, 10-13-2005, 11:26 AM
I made a mistake in the post above. The amount should be $4000 and not $8000 as I incorrectly stated. It is too late to edit the above post so I make the correction this way.
Posted by melh2o, 10-13-2005, 01:28 PM
No I have not received the check nor heard from her. This is the same method she has used in the past year. Nobody is posting at CH, not that I can anyhow but I have not been banned. Look drinkingteddy, you said some things that did get a rise from me. I did not expect everyone to agree with me and respect your opinion. I didn't like the way you made a couple of statements but I can get past that. I never wanted to bring this out in the open but I wasn't getting anywhere for an entire year. The things she said over here are the same statements she made at CH. I'm telling you that it's a game for her and she's very good at it.
Posted by rrdega, 10-13-2005, 03:33 PM
Hey Mel... Are you going to her new forums? { http://ansforums.com/ } I've not tried to register there, and don't really plan to... Though I did send an an attempt thru the Contact Us form there. And, true to course, there's been no response... To date, since this has all come out, there's been no contact from Bonnie to me, aside from oblique references in the other thread...
Posted by melh2o, 10-13-2005, 06:29 PM
She will not approve me there, you for that matter. I'm telling you she is in the dodging mode now and will impossible to contact. I have been here before. She avoided me for several months with excuses like, no phone; don't check emails and pm's; won't sign into msn etc... etc... I have her telephone # but she won't answer that in this phase. You think she's done this before? lol It would actually be funny if I didn't have so much at stake. I thought that bringing it out in the open and letting the web hosting community know about her business practices would effect her business, forcing her to repay some of the people she owes.... NOT. We've heard from a few here that thought good and was satisfied with CredibleHost and Bonnie. I'll lay you 10 to 1 odds that she never owed any of them a dime! Oh well, the battle continues. Mel
Posted by rrdega, 10-13-2005, 06:52 PM
Yup... Duck 'n Run mode again, it appears...
Posted by catfished, 10-13-2005, 07:19 PM
It's sad, really, really sad.
Posted by mctDarren, 10-13-2005, 08:24 PM
It really is sad. I guess my hopes were for naught.
Posted by melh2o, 10-13-2005, 08:42 PM
I have just been contacted by yet another individual that loaned Bonnie money. I will not divulge the name since it was in confidence and they received service in lue of payment. I would like to give heads-up on another little tidbit of info. Do not be surprised to hear that she sold the company and the owner, man or woman, is none other than Bonnie herself. I got a warning that she may try that trick since the heat is now on. She seems to have closed Chforums and moving everything to ansforums, but I think she said she would be revamping things in other thread. It's really amazing that all these changes didn't begin until I surfaced on her board! This lady is on major con-artist!
Posted by Martie, 10-13-2005, 10:33 PM
At this point I feel NO sympathy for Ms. Bonnie. A few years ago I commented on a thread that I honestly couldln't believe the devotion from her clients. She seemed to have really faithful clients that would do anything to stick by her. Once again: AMAZING!! Even more amazing people like this are allowed to remain in business. ALL I CAN SAY to any consumer, please check your host out THOROUGHLY I saw a red flag years ago with crediblehost.....offering about 5-7 different control panels, plans. Guess what folks, its not possible to do that especially for a small company (and be able to provide sufficient support) I know I do plenty of business online, but honestly if I had experienced some of the things people are writing about in these threads, I would be so IRATE, so ANGRY that I would never do business with said person again. You know at this point IM ANGRY and I wish webhosts would speak UP with the crap hosts that remain because guess what? IT REFLECTS THE INDUSTRY AS A WHOLE!! My advice to you Bonnie: Close your business totally and REGROUP! Take care of current obligations and hopefully one day you can re-open. And as far as your one faithful clint in this thread: drinkingteddy Look around and dig deep for info. Maybe you can pay credible host bills next time around! Its an absolute disgrace. Anyone that continues hosting with this company should not complain...get out why you can and if not then you deserve what you get...plain and simple!
Posted by ldcdc, 10-14-2005, 07:49 AM
I saw it myself, even first hand, but I've refused to believe it for a long while. Their devotion is still in-credible. Last edited by ldcdc; 10-14-2005 at 07:58 AM.
Posted by MeToo, 10-14-2005, 08:44 AM
Someone mentioned Affordable Host was in the mix. I think that was one of the posts in the earlier thread. Affordable Host is an operation run by Tina Peters which takes on your existing client base promising to give the same service and paying back a small percentage for a year. In my case AH took me from a 2.8 dual HT to an amd 1600. They refused to setup the IPs as I had before saying it was technically impossible. I found the service and tech support to be non-responsive and inferior. It only took me a few days to dump the Peters operation and get back on track. bonnmac talks about over 500 clients, etc. That may be adding the adherents to her PTR operation. The last time she was absent at CH for over six weeks with absolutely no tech support there were no more than 3-5 client complaints. Not what I would expect from a 500 client base.
Posted by AHFBWEB, 10-14-2005, 09:09 AM
Tina sold AH long ago, I believe it was canaca that bought it. To in any way imply that Tina has the same ethics as Bonnie would simply be wrong. D
Posted by rrdega, 10-14-2005, 09:22 AM
Tina, Affordable Host, et al, are not a party to this thread in any way, that I am aware of... The earlier reference to "Affordable" was in regards to Bonnie's new Forum Domain { http://ansforums.com/ } which bares the name "Affordable Net Services" in its Title, Board Name, and Footer... Last edited by rrdega; 10-14-2005 at 09:28 AM.
Posted by MeToo, 10-14-2005, 09:31 AM
Certainly not applicable to my post.
Posted by rrdega, 10-14-2005, 09:35 AM
I think Dave was merely trying to prevent this from spinning off in an erroneous direction... As was I, only with the added clarifying information. Nothing meant by it, other than that... :Peace:
Posted by MeToo, 10-14-2005, 09:40 AM
This is the quote I was referring to: I too have no access to verify what she is up to. So your guess is as good as mine.
Posted by gene c., 10-14-2005, 09:43 AM
I have read both of the topics about this awful scam job. And I feel for the both of you. I have been with CH for close to 2 years. And my review is a start of another topic. I don't want to confuse the scam jobs with my review! I do however have a question for any of you that might be a CH member and has been reading this scam job! I was never informed of the closeing of the old CH fourms. I only found out about it here and also the new one she has now that is stated here in these post! questions 1. are you able to post or start a new topics at. http://www.ansforums.com/forums/newt...newthread&f=16 I get this error and yes I joined at the first of the week. Gene C., you do not have permission to access this page. This could be due to one of several reasons: 1. Your user account may not have sufficient privileges to access this page. Are you trying to edit someone else's post, access administrative features or some other privileged system? 2. If you are trying to post, the administrator may have disabled your account, or it may be awaiting activation. 2. or open a helpdesk ticked here ? https://chhelp.com/exo/member.php
Posted by BitterSweet, 10-14-2005, 12:27 PM
didn't Bonnie say that an email was sent/would be sent to all CH customers to ask them to register to the new forum? *sigh*
Posted by swflnetworks, 10-14-2005, 12:44 PM
She also said that she'd pay Mel and Bob back. Big suprise?
Posted by melh2o, 10-14-2005, 07:25 PM
The way I understand it is all the members at CHForums will have to register at ansforums. This is so you can be screened. I'm telling you she is doing it to keep me and her other creditors out. She told our mutual friend, whom is also and admin on Chforums, that she had sent me checks (with #'s) and told Bob he would get his money the 21st. In addition, she was going to give him a call at 9:05 her time and disauss all of this. Guess what, she didn't call him; she didn't send me the checks; she didn't talk to Bob; she IS lying through her teeth! How corrupt can you be? If there are some clients that have had decent service from her company, they should count their blessing and run for the hills at the first sign of trouble. Mel
Posted by Martie, 10-14-2005, 07:39 PM
Hi Mel, Just wanted to say that you've been extremely cordial and polite through this whole ordeal. I hope she eventually comes through in a positive way for you. Its sad all the way around. Best of luck to you
Posted by Leeo, 10-14-2005, 07:44 PM
Take her to court for your money! The only way she's going to learn is to face bankruptcy! You've been financing her company for too long. If she is supposed to be this business women then she would not need to lend money of her own clients. To drinkteddy I assume your referring to me regarding the people in the shadows throwing accusations at Bonnie. Well I've provided my crediblehost details to the mods of this forum as I was asked too when Bonnie practically accused me of not being a client and being a trouble maker. If you want me to make my crediblehost details available publically then here they are. I hosted a couple of domains at crediblehost including foosupport.co.uk foohosting.co.uk My forums username was foonetworks before Bonnie decided to ban me as she did'nt like my opinion and also The Advisor. I would also like to say that I stand by everything I've said. I also cannot believe you have not been affected by bad support and server downtime at crediblehost. The support dept was almost non existent for a month while Bonnie was out in the wilderness setting up her PTR sites! Do you not use your reseller account with her that much?
Posted by melh2o, 10-14-2005, 10:09 PM
Thanks Martie for the kind words. In fact I appreciate all you guys for the moral support you have given me in my quest for justice. Judging from the number of views of this, and the other thread, the word is out to the hosting community. Form the looks of things she has very little support left, at least at WHT. The owners and staff of WHT have been outstanding by letting this issue run it's course here. My hat's off to you guys. I don't see much use in beating a dead horse. I will continue my battle with Bonnie throught the courts now. Please, all of you should pass along what has taken place here to anyone you come across looking for a hosting company. You could save them many headaches, and possibly money, by informing them about Bonnie Mackensie and her business. Thanks to one and all, Mel
Posted by tomlll, 10-14-2005, 10:28 PM
some complaint sources: http://www1.ifccfbi.gov/index.asp http://www.cybercrime.gov/reporting.htm
Posted by battra, 10-15-2005, 05:31 AM
I did receive an email from her about the closure: Even before I read about the scam, I was already suspicious why the new forum is closed to non-clients.
Posted by Leeo, 10-19-2005, 11:37 AM
Mel & Bob Any update on contact from Bonnie regarding payment?
Posted by rrdega, 10-19-2005, 11:44 AM
Nothing after an exchange of messages I had with her on her Help Desk { http://www.chhelp.com/exo/ } where she: * Claimed not to be hiding * Played her "Income Tax Return is imminent" line again... * Iterated that she'd sent post-dated checks to Mel via the U.S. Mail I've since heard from Mel that, true to form, no checks were received...
Posted by Leeo, 10-19-2005, 11:51 AM
Absolutely unbelievable! At least there's one good thing and that's posts like these and the previous one's are not good for her so called business and it will stop her fleecing money out of other people. Hope you and Mel manage to get your money back through the legal system which I assume your gonna try and do! Well it certainly proves you can't trust anyone including a so called christian. Maybe the big man upstairs will have something to say about this mess when she finally meets him.
Posted by BitterSweet, 10-19-2005, 01:22 PM
i'd just take her to court! It might not give you the money back, but at least prevent that she does "business" again HOw sad.. good luck guys
Posted by ldcdc, 10-19-2005, 01:31 PM
If anyone knows what Mel and Bob feel, it must be me. (For some reason I find that so ironic! ) Good luck guys and do keep us posted!
Posted by melh2o, 10-20-2005, 12:05 PM
Yeah, talked to our mutual friend and he was in contact with her. She said that the checks she mailed me were returned for insufficient postage and she overnighted them yesterday. We'll see if she continues to perpetuate her false promises and tells of mishaps. Mel
Posted by AHFBWEB, 10-20-2005, 01:35 PM
Insufficient postage ?? What did she do, lick a few 2 cent stamps? It is not possible for a regular paper check to be overweight for a typical, everyday stamp. She has never done very good when it comes to making up stories but this is by far the funniest. I am sorry for laughing, I really feel bad for those that she stole from, I wish you all the best in serving up to Bonnie what she deserves. I have tried to stay out of this thread and am backing out once again. Good luck folks D
Posted by BitterSweet, 10-20-2005, 03:54 PM
haha cmon! how many times does she claim she has sent something, she should know by now how much it prices to send a letter!!! Or did she send a bag with COINS or better.. gold??
Posted by melh2o, 10-20-2005, 05:14 PM
It's no real surprise that the checks didn't come today and she's not produced a tracking# as evidence of sending them (as she told our friend she would). I'm telling you guys that she is a pathological liar and can't stop. Why anyone would want to conduct business with any company she's involved with is beyond me!
Posted by MeToo, 10-21-2005, 04:43 PM
When does this become more than a civil court case of debt collection? The US Post Office is generaly interested in how the mails are used or mis-used.
Posted by bonnmac, 10-22-2005, 04:29 AM
I'm not hiding, however as I stated in the first thread, I would not have any further comments on the issue, as personal loans are just that... personal not public. But now I guess I will address a couple things mentioned in this thread. The mutual friend Mel has been talking about, suggested to me that I pretend to sell the company, but not really sell it. Just pretend to be someone else. That I should be a man instead of a woman, so people wouldn't put 2 + 2 together. I told him I did not like that idea, and would not do so, although we did discuss it. I thought about selling out, but decided against that also. I stated almost a year ago, that I was in this for the long haul, and would stay even if I only had one client left, and I stand by that decision. Someone mentioned that I borrow money from clients. This is another false statement. Mel was/is a friend of a friend, and Bob was a client, but he started helping me on the helpdesk and I in exchange gave him hosting. Bob is very knowledgeable, and helped a great deal on the desk. He was what I considered a friend and assistant, not a client when I borrowed money from him. As to the checks I mailed to Mel. I live in a rural country town, and do not drive. The post office is 8-10 miles from my house, so I put checks in the mail along with a very long letter to Mel in my mailbox for pickup as I was having a difficult time getting to the post office. I put one $0.37 stamp on the envelope. On the 19th I received the checks back for insufficiant postage. Think what you want. I know that I did this. (not quite sure how this constitutes mis-use of the US Postal System as someone stated) I have received no phone calls from Mel. I did receive a sms message from our mutual friend on the 13th. I have not been on msn because I recieve multiple popups whenever I sign on. I've tried cleaning with spybot search & destroy and adaware with no luck. So until I can clean whatever has infected my pc I will not be on msn. The new forums were put in place, so I could have one central location for all my sites. Not to weed out anyone, and I have not banned anyone. I do not feel that non-clients need to clutter up our client area with non CH posts. Our forums were always intended for clients to interact with one another, not as public forums. They were also not meant for support. Which is why there are now links to our official support methods. I have only received two communications from Bob, which I replied to almost immediately. In his pm to me here on wht, he stated he did not want any further contact with me. He just wanted money sent to his PayPal account, so I did not contact him again. He contacted me again via a pm on our helpdesk accusing me of hiding, I replied again almost immediately telling him I was not hiding. As to the now infamous income tax return. I wrote to Bob (I think) and Mel's and mine mutual friend that it was being released. That TurboTax website said it would be released on the 21st, but that the IRS 1800 number said the 25th. Well, the 21st has come and gone, so I guess it's the 25th. But that really isn't anyone's business is it? Someone mentioned that when I was not around much on our old forums, that only a handful of people were complaining about support being non-existant. And that didn't sound like I had a large clientbase. Did it ever dawn on anyone that's because I was around, just not on the forums? Running a hosting company does not only include being on forums. I may not have been on the forums, but I was keeping the servers up, updating them etc. I was also answering tickets, and dealing with all the financial mess of PaySystems. So anyone who says I was not around, doesn't know or see the whole picture. They only see the scene they want to see. Still on the subject of our old forums. I emailed all 889 members of those forums (chforums.com) and informed them of the new forums address, and I posted in the Announcements forum visible by everyone (public included) and our website has a link to the new forums, so they aren't hard to find. As to charging $8000 on Mels CC. That is also a false statement. The amount was $3600, and I didn't charge it. I charged $1800, and replaced the information at the datacenter with my own CC information. I was not the only one who had access to the control panel at the datacenter. There were 2 other people who had access to that control panel, and both are mentioned in this thread. However, neither of those 2 people had Mel's CC number. So the truth of the matter is there was an error there and none of us, Myself, Mel or the DC caught the error for 2 months. There was no fraud done by anyone. As to attacking my Christianity. I am a Christian, but I am also human and make mistakes. As far as I recall, the only perfect person was Christ himself, and that's because he is God. "Let those without sin cast the first stone" As to leeo and foohosting. As I recall leeo, you became a client on a couple of occassions, leaving for a couple months or so and then coming back, so we couldn't have been all that bad could we? BTW you were never banned on our forums. Your access to the client only section was removed after you cancelled your account for the 3rd or 4th time if I recall, and that was because you were no longer a client. I will make good on my debts, but it will be between myself and those I owe. If those parties feel the need to continue to post here that is their right, and I can't stop them.
Posted by bear, 10-22-2005, 07:20 AM
Small, possibly insignificant point, but I was a member and received no such email. Anyone else get one?
Posted by MeToo, 10-22-2005, 09:11 AM
A nice twist but once again a bit off point. You operate a business ironically called Credible Host. A business presumably legally registered, licensed and insured to operate in the State of California. Credible Host functions by soliciting clients from the public at large. In fact a quick search will show that these forums have been employed for the purpose of soliciting for Credible Host. A business so organized has responsibility to function within a legal framework established by a common commercial code and an ethical responsibility to the public from which it solicits. The financial viability or Credible Host and it's conformance to such publicly stated level of service terms as support will be provided 24/7 with a limited response time is information in the public interest. Noted that the support level has been removed from the service level document which is in itself a change of contract terms altering the bargain to your clients and should prompt a pricing adjustment to compensate. As to the loans being personal that is not the case. At least in Mel's case the loan was reportedly made to Credible Host and directly applied to it's accounts payable. How more public can you get? Granted you as the CEO or proprietor processed the transaction but your were acting in that role and presumably not for personal or private gain. Most likely you gave personal guaranty to secure the loan but personal, hardly. This is a perfect forum to discuss the credibility of Credible Host and it's principals.
Posted by ldcdc, 10-22-2005, 10:53 AM
I used to be a member. Like you, I did not receive an email.
Posted by BitterSweet, 10-22-2005, 12:31 PM
funny how i didn't receive the email either, and the email address in profile is my normal email address. Interesting, he?
Posted by melh2o, 10-22-2005, 03:16 PM
I would like to report that I have received the 1st installment toward the loan that I made to Bonnie, along with a schedule of future payments. I would like to say I was reluctant to bring this out in open forums, and did not do so for almost a year. Since she has taken the first step in repaying the loan, and makes a concerted effort to abide by her arrangements, I will refrain from any further negative postings concerning this issue. My appreciation goes out to the staff and members here for allowing me the opportunity to discuss this issue. Thanks, Mel
Posted by littleminx, 10-23-2005, 08:32 AM
On the other side of the fence, I got the same email that battra received, on Oct 6. I remember thinking it was strange when I got it since I haven't been CH client for more than a year. Hope there's a happy resolution for all concerned.
Posted by BitterSweet, 10-23-2005, 12:16 PM
hope you get the future payments too, Mel. And that all the others who are still waiting for to get the money back.. good luck!
Posted by gene c., 10-24-2005, 01:43 PM
Attn: any and all Ch members. I have had this problem for a few hours? can you get to 1. chhelp.com 2. ansforums.com 3. your Cpanel 4.Your webmail --------------------------------------------------------------------- quick check dns site= http://www.checkdns.net/quickcheck.a...genec-lori.com Probably DNS server is offline. Probably DNS server is offline. 0 server(s) are alive No DNS servers alive, tests stopped ---------------------------------------------------------------- http://www.dnsreport.com/ gives me the same thing! ------------------------------------------------------------------- ping from command prompt= request times out! ----------------------------------------------------------------- I have had this problem for a few hours? -------------------------------------------------------------------- side note. http://www.crediblehost.com/ We are currently having difficulties. Bocacom.net where we house our servers is having technical difficulties due to hurricaine Wilma. We are working on getting an ETA on when the servers will be back up and will update this page as we find new information. We are working on changing the dns for our helpdesk, and forums so we can keep you updated.
Posted by ldcdc, 10-24-2005, 01:54 PM
In all honesty, this is nothing of Crediblehost's doing. Plenty of hosts are in a similar situation. Really unfortunate events... http://www.webhostingtalk.com/showth...hreadid=455086
Posted by gene c., 10-24-2005, 02:14 PM
I wasen't refering for it to be a ch problem? I was just wondering the reason for the downtime and trying to get as much info as I could on it. I also didn't know the data centers were located in florida that CH uses to host our sites. I for one know the lowdown on Wilma. I live on a island off florida. It has rained so hard at times. I can't see in front of me! Thunder/lighten is BAD! Winds are now at 29 mph with gust higher. if the winds contiue to rise. both bridges "we have only 2 ways on/off the island" will be shut down! We have had my extreme DST "bellsouth, and regular phones go on/off! The same with my cable company! thanks for the link to the other post about it!
Posted by melh2o, 07-09-2006, 12:11 PM
I may should let this issue die a sour death, but it would be a disservice to the community. BonnieMac did finally send me $100 via PayPal along with faithful promises to settle her debt with me. It was no surprise that she failed to keep those promises as well. She did succeed in quieting things down, maybe that was her goal. I want you all to know that I did check into filing a claim against her and Crediblehost. My attorney said we could win a judgement here with no problem, but we would then have to find a court in her jurisdiction to enforce the judgement. She's in California and I'm in Alabama... don't know if I could cover all my expenses in the end. I have almost overcome the $1,844.00 loss... extremely tough since I'm retired! My wife, a "TRUE" christian, tells me I should forgive her and let our Almighty judge her. She is probably right... I'm trying my best. I would hate for her to do this to someone else. So I'll update this from time to time, as long as the staff allows it.
Posted by MeToo, 07-09-2006, 02:46 PM
Thanks for the update. Your loss is substantial. All the gnashing of teeth and flag waving is over and that is good. Your wife is on to something. I am sure if I said much more than that the staff would come to attention. All these things shall be added unto you. Do good and know that the the desire that promted you to help in the first place is a credit to your character. You can do as your wife suggests and it will pass. Not true for the other party.
Posted by stu17, 07-11-2006, 07:41 AM
melh2o see: http://www.webhostingtalk.com/showpo...&postcount=128
Posted by melh2o, 07-11-2006, 01:32 PM
Hmmmm... I'm not sure what to make of that. I take it that she's being taken over or hiding again. Appreciate the heads-up stu!
Posted by stu17, 07-12-2006, 05:10 AM
yep crediblehost has been taken over & I think it will be a good thing.
Posted by DanielJarrett, 07-19-2006, 01:13 PM
Thanks to all the HostPC staff for working so hard on this transition. There were a few hiccups (most of them caused by CredibleHost) but HostPC dealt with them quickly and efficiently. I'm looking forward to an improved hosting experience with HostPC .
Posted by melh2o, 07-21-2006, 03:21 PM
OK people, here's a new update on this so-called purchase. I'm sure that this is just another scam she is pulling. I have it on "GOOD" authority that Bonnie owns HostPC as well and this is just another ruse she is using to to beat more clients out of money. This authority informed me that she was going to do this same exact thing a couple years ago. He is also familiar with HostPC (her company). You may also notice the similarity in the owner's name and Bonnie's... Joe Mack/Bonnie Mac... not very original Bonnie, if you ask me. Here is a thread from HostPC has put up for all the clients... http://www.hostpc.com/community/showthread.php?t=2554 Before they close this down, here are a couple of post's by Bonnie using her name... bonnmac Junior Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 3 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Anyone who has paid their invoice to me today prior to the announcement, I will forward your payments along to HostPc. Between Joe and Myself you will be taken care of. Bonnie (YEAH, RIGHT) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- bonnmac Junior Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 3 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- HostPC is not responsible for any refunds. There are only about 4 clients still owed a refund, and I will be handling those as I can. Because I have no income coming in from CredibleHost anymore this may take another couple of months, but I will handle them. I know you have been waiting a long time, but I will hold good on my word. (YEAH, RIGHT) Quote: Originally Posted by badr I'm sure many people are wondering how is this going to affect the folks who are still waiting on their refunds from CH. This might not be the appropriate place to post it but it would be good for all us to know what to expect. Cheers To this point I have kept our mutual friend and one of Bonnie's Admin's name out of it. I just talked to him and he told me to use his name. He has told me to do this before, but this was my fight. I will use his name now in order to give some validity to what he has to say about this "so-called" sale. This will also clue in any of her staff... not involved in this... as to what is happening. CH Mike is his usename on her boards.... ring a bell Bonnie???? Because of your friendship with him, and my respect for him, I made you the $1,844.00 loan. Shortly after I made the loan, another of CH Mike's friend loaned you $2,600.00 more. I did at least get $100.00 of mine back.... he hasn't got a dime. Any of her clients that fall into either category of her above posts... forget it if it's a substantial amount, you are another one of her victims. PLEASE people, I need help in getting the word out to the community about CredibleHost and HostPC so more people will not get harmed!!! Bonnie is running another scam with this! Crooks like her have to be stopped! MelH2o Last edited by melh2o; 07-21-2006 at 03:29 PM.
Posted by melh2o, 07-21-2006, 03:57 PM
I was trying to find some more info about CredibleHost and HostPC and came up with this: WHOIS information for hostpc.com: [whois.enom.com] =-=-=-= Domain name: hostpc.com Administrative Contact: Whois Privacy Protection Service, Inc. Whois Agent (yhnxqqxc@whoisprivacyprotect.com) +1.4252740657 Fax: +1.4256960234 PMB 368, 14150 NE 20th St - F1 C/O hostpc.com Bellevue, WA 98007 US Technical Contact: Whois Privacy Protection Service, Inc. Whois Agent (yhnxqqxc@whoisprivacyprotect.com) +1.4252740657 Fax: +1.4256960234 PMB 368, 14150 NE 20th St - F1 C/O hostpc.com Bellevue, WA 98007 US Registrant Contact: Whois Privacy Protection Service, Inc. Whois Agent (yhnxqqxc@whoisprivacyprotect.com) +1.4252740657 Fax: +1.4256960234 PMB 368, 14150 NE 20th St - F1 C/O hostpc.com Bellevue, WA 98007 US Status: Active Name Servers: dns1.hostpc.com dns2.hostpc.com Creation date: 18 Nov 1998 00:00:00 Expiration date: 17 Nov 2008 00:00:00 =-=-=-= WHOIS information for crediblehost.com: [whois.enom.com] =-=-=-= Registration Service Provided By: HostPC Internet Services Contact: domreg@hostpc.com Visit: www.hostpc.com Domain name: crediblehost.com Administrative Contact: HostPC Internet Services Joseph Mack (domreg@hostpc.com) +1.5187246424 Fax: +1.5188319095 PO Box 3221 Schenectady, NY 12303 US Technical Contact: HostPC Internet Services Joseph Mack (domreg@hostpc.com) +1.5187246424 Fax: +1.5188319095 PO Box 3221 Schenectady, NY 12303 US Registrant Contact: HostPC Internet Services Joseph Mack (domreg@hostpc.com) +1.5187246424 Fax: +1.5188319095 PO Box 3221 Schenectady, NY 12303 US Status: Active Name Servers: dns1.name-services.com dns2.name-services.com dns3.name-services.com dns4.name-services.com dns5.name-services.com Creation date: 03 Aug 2002 20:14:08 Expiration date: 03 Aug 2007 20:14:08 Even this info is suspicious to me. CH Mike say's that she is using a proxy therefore hiding her real information. Maybe clients of the original HostPC will step up a give us some information on them, they seem to have been around since 1998.... how about it Bonnie?
Posted by melh2o, 07-21-2006, 04:22 PM
This is a quote from a post Bonnie made in this thread 10/22/2005... I guess you changed your mind Bonnie... this transaction went down exactly like that! Bonnie, your lies and deceptions are catching up with you dear! If I were Joe Mack and someone was defaming me and my company, I would be here in an instant to clarify things... wanna try Bonnie?
Posted by akoss, 07-21-2006, 04:45 PM
Mel, you should search the forum here for when Bocacom lost power in the storms about a year ago. Joe flew to FL to try and get data from the servers there, and to take the data to EV1 should the servers not come back online anytime soon. I think that post alone proves that Joe is NOT Bonnie. Also, I've been chatting on a regular basis with Joe since the sale and I'm 100% from his comments that it IS a legitimate sale. The whois records above look in order to me
Posted by hostpc.com, 07-21-2006, 04:51 PM
HostPC is a private entity - and has no relation to Bonnie McKenzie. She lives in California, I"ve lived all my life in NY. We are NOT related, there is NO business relationship between us other than the purchase of Crediblehost on July 5. Before you let your imagination run away with you - check the facts. Dont be a rumor mill. Joe Mack Owner - HostPC Internet Services Schenectady, NY
Posted by ArtieFishill, 07-21-2006, 04:52 PM
Gotta love conspiracy theories... Just for the record, Bonnie is far from being Joe...LOL...omg I can't stop laughing..gonna pee myself. His source is probably this CH Mike..(as if anyone who worked at CH can be a reliable source).
Posted by hostpc.com, 07-21-2006, 05:01 PM
If this wasn't so absolutely paranoid and ludicrous, I'd really be peeing my pants. Slander and Libel laws are wonderful things!
Posted by Shaw Networks, 07-21-2006, 05:07 PM
Pay $10 through whois.sc, check the whois history and see if Bonnie was ever associated with the domain name.
Posted by hostpc.com, 07-21-2006, 05:10 PM
I just "unblocked" our domain name so you can do a lookup at your leisure (locking prevents spammers, that's the only reason it was protected by ID Protect). I also authorize the mods here to release my public IP address (in my post history and each post) - trace it back, you'll see that it's a NY based IP address, not a california based IP - where Bonnie lives. Registration Service Provided By: HostPC Internet Services Contact: domreg@hostpc.com Visit: www.hostpc.com Domain name: hostpc.com Administrative Contact: HostPC Internet Services Joseph Mack (domreg@hostpc.com) +1.5187246424 Fax: +1.5188319095 PO Box 3221 Schenectady, NY 12303 US Technical Contact: HostPC Internet Services Joseph Mack (domreg@hostpc.com) +1.5187246424 Fax: +1.5188319095 PO Box 3221 Schenectady, NY 12303 US Registrant Contact: HostPC Internet Services Joseph Mack (domreg@hostpc.com) +1.5187246424 Fax: +1.5188319095 PO Box 3221 Schenectady, NY 12303 US Status: Active Name Servers: dns1.hostpc.com dns2.hostpc.com Creation date: 18 Nov 1998 00:00:00 Expiration date: 17 Nov 2008 00:00:00 Bonnie's new email address shows this domain: # whois ansmedia.com [Querying whois.internic.net] [Redirected to whois.godaddy.com] [Querying whois.godaddy.com] [whois.godaddy.com] The data contained in GoDaddy.com, Inc.'s WhoIs database, while believed by the company to be reliable, is provided "as is" with no guarantee or warranties regarding its accuracy. This information is provided for the sole purpose of assisting you in obtaining information about domain name registration records. Any use of this data for any other purpose is expressly forbidden without the prior written permission of GoDaddy.com, Inc. By submitting an inquiry, you agree to these terms of usage and limitations of warranty. In certain, you agree not to use this data to allow, enable, or otherwise make possible, dissemination or collection of this data, in part or in its entirety, for any purpose, such as the transmission of unsolicited advertising and and solicitations of any kind, including spam. You further agree not to use this data to enable high volume, automated or robotic electronic processes designed to collect or compile this data for any purpose, including mining this data for your own personal or commercial purposes. Please note: the registrant of the domain name is specified in the "registrant" field. In most cases, GoDaddy.com, Inc. is not the registrant of domain names listed in this database. Registrant: CredibleHost 20116 Backes Lane Tehachapi, California 93561 United States Registered through: GoDaddy.com, Inc. (http://www.godaddy.com) Domain Name: ANSMEDIA.COM Created on: 14-Feb-06 Expires on: 14-Feb-07 Last Updated on: 14-Feb-06 Administrative Contact: MacKenzie, Bonnie bonnmac@crediblehost.com CredibleHost 20116 Backes Lane Tehachapi, California 93561 United States (661) 822-0349 Fax -- (661) 825-8654 Technical Contact: MacKenzie, Bonnie bonnmac@crediblehost.com CredibleHost 20116 Backes Lane Tehachapi, California 93561 United States (661) 822-0349 Fax -- (661) 825-8654 Domain servers in listed order: PARK9.SECURESERVER.NET PARK10.SECURESERVER.NET Last edited by hostpc.com; 07-21-2006 at 05:20 PM.
Posted by melh2o, 07-21-2006, 05:24 PM
It will take a little more than your post to convince me that this transaction is not a ruse. However if it were to turn out that HostPC and you are legitimate, then I've have done you a terrible injustice. But there are far too many coincidences that point to more deceptions by Bonnie in this trade and I would expect Bonnie to come back loaded to the hilt. I hope you can understand why I must wait to make a formal apology here to you and HostPC. Paranoid you say... yes, she's used so many different techniques to avoid her debts that this would be a perfect move for her. Mel
Posted by bear, 07-21-2006, 05:29 PM
Won't release the actual IP, but it's based in Schenectady, NY as claimed. Last edited by bear; 07-21-2006 at 05:33 PM.
Posted by melh2o, 07-21-2006, 05:32 PM
IncognitoNetworks, it appears that you have been around here for quite sometimes. I will respect your opinion on this matter... am I totally offbase with this?
Posted by paradice, 07-21-2006, 05:39 PM
Well, bubba, I don't know just *exactly* what you need but I'll testify. I am a HostPC customer. I have SPOKEN with Joe Mack and received nothing but top notch support and honestly in my dealings with them - long, long before this whole CH deal went down. My most recent experience was in March and the support was above and beyond what I expected. If that's a woman on the phone then Bonnie underwent a sex change operation at least a year ago. You may want to talk to your "GOOD" authority and tell them to jump in a lake - they're setting you up for a major lawsuit.
Posted by ArtieFishill, 07-21-2006, 05:43 PM
ANd we should care what you think? Maybe you are a former CH employee..or maybe you are Bonnie and trying to cause Joe harm by making false and slanderous accusations? I work with/for Joe for many years..I know him personally...if he's bonnie, he's one ugly woman..LOL.
Posted by akoss, 07-21-2006, 05:44 PM
Mel, here is the thread I referred to earlier: http://www.webhostingtalk.com/showthread.php?t=455111 and http://www.webhostingtalk.com/showthread.php?t=455131 If you read both of those threads and think Joe sounds like Bonnie..... well... erm.... well..... just go read them :lol:
Posted by bear, 07-21-2006, 05:55 PM
Conspiracy theories are just that, theories. Seems your reliable source, Mel, is not too accurate on this one, and it's probably a good idea at this point to apologize to those you've accused unjustly here, as you said you would. Everyone makes mistakes.
Posted by paradice, 07-21-2006, 05:56 PM
There's a couple hundred records in the domain name history.. but this is the first one. Note the date:
Posted by hostpc.com, 07-21-2006, 06:22 PM
Um, where'd all the posts go from this thread?
Posted by melh2o, 07-21-2006, 06:29 PM
You are SO right Dixie! I have made a grievous error and apologize to Joe and to HostPC. I just got off the phone with Joe and he seems to be a great individual. I have made my apology personally to him and am making my apology to WHT now. He was more than gracious in accepting my apology and hope you guys are to. I've learned a very valuable lesson here... it may look like a duck, it may quack like a duck, but it's not always a duck! Joe, I enjoyed our conversation very much and bud... I'm so very sorry for the any trouble I may have caused you. I see now that my wife was right about letting this drop. I will stick around here long enough to take my lashing from you guys... I deserve it. Mel
Posted by melh2o, 07-21-2006, 06:31 PM
I'm still here Joe... willing to take the heat!
Posted by hostpc.com, 07-21-2006, 06:33 PM
No lashing is necessary ... Forgive and forget - it's my policy not an advertising gimmick. I would ask the mods to edit the original post so that our good name isn't tarnished any further. Thank you for all the postiive comments here (even if Dixiesys' was removed) - I appreciate and value your support. Mel, I wish you luck in the future tracking down Bonnie - I really feel bad for those that try to help others and end up getting "the shaft"
Posted by melh2o, 07-21-2006, 06:36 PM
BTW Joe, I spoke to Mike (CH Mike) as I said I would. I told him I've talked to you and the whole story. He won't make anymore derogatory posts either. He was convinced as I about the entire Crediblehost thing... I'll apologize for him as well.
Posted by paradice, 07-21-2006, 06:39 PM
Hey Mel don't go away - you have a good cause, just a little quick on the trigger :humor: Do you know who shot JFK? :humor:
Posted by hostpc.com, 07-21-2006, 06:41 PM
Thanks Mel, I hope he'll re-visit our forums and post a clarification there as well. G'day sir.
Posted by melh2o, 07-21-2006, 06:41 PM
I've got a little postscript to all this... we just re-newed with our host for another year. After speaking with Joe and all I've read concerning him and HostPC, they will be our next host!
Posted by melh2o, 07-21-2006, 06:43 PM
Sure do................................................. Bonnie Mackensie!
Posted by melh2o, 07-21-2006, 06:45 PM
Me to Joe!
Posted by melh2o, 07-21-2006, 06:49 PM
You could be right Joe but if people read the entire thread, it could turn out to be a positive thing for you.... Hope so!
Posted by melh2o, 07-21-2006, 06:56 PM
If he doesn't, give me the link and I'll be glad to register and clarify everything.
Posted by bear, 07-21-2006, 08:04 PM
Seems to be resolved now, and since it was an old thread resurrected anyway, closing.