Overselling = Slow webpage loading?

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Posted by Rick67, 11-01-2007, 09:23 AM
I am considering signing up for Hostgator's reseller program. I noticed someone mentioned HostGator is an overseller. I have seen the pros and cons of overselling discussed here. Will overselling eventually mean that my clients websites will have webpages that are slow to load? Most of my client's websites are going to be mostly just webpages...no media, or other large files. Thanks, Rick Columbus, Ohio
Posted by 040Hosting, 11-01-2007, 10:34 AM
That could happen, but it could also happen to any other shared hosting however chances should be smaller, if you have static websites (pure html) chances are small it will slow down at all; when using .php and mysql combinations you may notice it faster. Hope this helps.
Posted by ldcdc, 11-01-2007, 11:08 AM
There's also to note that overselling levels will be different between reseller hosting and shared hosting. Hosts know that resellers tend to use more of what they're given, and they counterbalance this. You'll easily notice that reseller hosting is usually more expensive (if the space and data transfer is used for the comparison).
Posted by LaneHost, 11-01-2007, 01:20 PM
Since reseller accounts use the resources on the server the same way normal hosting accounts do, meaning shared, overselling does come in play. Of course the more reseller accounts put on a server the greater the possibility that the server could become slower for your pages. Since your pages are mostly static, you should be fine and not use that many resources however how much your neighbors use is a different story. Generally though most reseller accounts seem to be more stable then regular shared as hosts do make a better profit out of those accounts not needing to fill the server with as many accounts.
Posted by Adam H, 11-01-2007, 01:31 PM
Overall, no. When another reseller uses too much resources and slows down the other server users, hostgator suspends them. There has been quite alot of threads recently here of customers being suspended by hostgator for overusage. Read their TOS carefully.
Posted by DimensionServers, 11-01-2007, 01:32 PM
Reseller hosting is really bad because that means if you run out of diskspace so do your clients. If you are interested in selling webspace, at this point VPS's are cheap enough that you could get one of those and sell your web space from there. This has some additional benefits such as root access to the server and WHM (if you go the cpanel route). Best of luck in your adventure.
Posted by Steve_Arm, 11-01-2007, 01:35 PM
Their network speed is pretty good. You should worry more about security. If you want I can upload some of your pages to check it out your self. I have an account there which I should have closed months ago.
Posted by wherrelz, 11-01-2007, 04:11 PM
To answer the question bluntly - yes you will notice a slight speed variation over time. If you use databases, you will notice the variation sooner. Hostgator... Heard good about them, but can't comment myself. I tried their $1 discount plan once, but I prefer a VPS. Since my usage is primarily bandwidth (not much large files, and small databases), its cost effective for me. Steve_Arm: not sure what you mean by 'closed months ago'.... ?
Posted by Rick67, 11-01-2007, 04:55 PM
Steve, thanks for your offer to use your account. I just signed up with HostGator today so I now have an account. Hopefully it will be my clients that slow down the server...that will mean I'm selling websites! LOL!
Posted by TonyB, 11-01-2007, 05:46 PM
People always bringing up this overselling thing It's not overselling that causes slow loading of pages and down time. It's poor server management that causes these issues. Hosting company's not checking server usage reports and just not looking after machines at all. Over time sites grow and if they do not plan for this then eventually things are going to get slow. A site that only uses 500MB of space can cause just as much strain as a site that uses 5GB of space. It all comes down to traffic of sites and their scripts not much to do with selling more space or bandwidth. Sure it attracts more abusive customers but a host overselling should be managing their machines properly to begin with to anticipate a particular % of customer who will use more resources than most. A lot of these larger companies such as Hostgator sure they have some slow servers (who wouldn't with that many machines). But for the most part they manage their overselling quite well and most customers are very happy. The ones that give overselling a bad name are these hosts that do not and pack many many accounts onto their single server until things just get so bad they close down.
Posted by Nnyan, 11-01-2007, 07:08 PM
I agree with TonyB. Overselling is normally not a bad thing per se. I've tested hosts that allow overselling and performance was great and I've had host's that do not have overselling with bad performance.
Posted by Steve_Arm, 11-02-2007, 12:02 AM
I meant that I have gone dedicated now and it 's just eating money.
Posted by a1domainhosting, 11-02-2007, 02:06 AM
Over selling is not bad till you don't have customers who have dynamic and complex applications on your server. if you have many such clients having complex applications performance issue will surly come. In over selling companies just keep adding accounts. And most companies named here close the accounts of the users that use some part of resource of the server. So if you know you are going to get hosted with a overselling company do keep your daily back ups without fail. On others servers you can take back up occasionally. And yes if their are many users on the server your pages will load a bit slow. If they are not today in due course they will.
Posted by ldcdc, 11-02-2007, 04:52 AM
I believe that one should make backups regularly, so that at any moment in time, the amount of data lost (from the databases) won't cripple his site's status or his business. This is irrespective of the host that is being used. Just my personal opinion though.
Posted by ~ServerPoint~, 11-02-2007, 04:56 AM
Overselling is used for promotional goals. Cpanel allows you to understand how many resources you have been using and you always can ask your provider: what's going on with my web sites etc. Any way you know what your recources doing and which troubles you can expect.
Posted by a1domainhosting, 11-02-2007, 04:58 AM
I agree with you what i wanted to say is in overselling servers back up is needed every day (must) but on other servers you can skip one or 2 days in between As clients we get form these top companies they lost their complete website without any notification. Till night it was fine and morning its gone
Posted by ~ServerPoint~, 11-05-2007, 03:51 AM
I don't understand people subscribing to the overselling services. They happy untill they alone on the server. Soon server became overloaded and people become unsatisfied - bad reviews, tears, refunds, chargebacks, looking for new "very cheap" and "very quality" host. You get what you pay for!