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Posted by raine, 01-28-2008, 06:13 PM
Hello all, I just received this email from Trexhost - but after a search, I've found nothing about this on here about either company. Could someone shed some light on this? Is this spam? Or is this legitimate? And if that is the case, could someone recommend me a comparable host as Trexhost with both pricing and service? Thanks!
Posted by WireSix-Matt, 01-28-2008, 06:18 PM
Wow, that sounds crazy.
Posted by Hosting_Reserve, 01-28-2008, 06:27 PM
Can you contact anyone at Trexhost to confirm this is genuine? It could just be an ex-staff member trying to poach customers. I suppose it could also be genuine. I would start looking for a new host to be on the safe side.
Posted by Mike Hobgood, 01-28-2008, 06:34 PM
It is legit. I am the owner of RisingWebWorks.com. Something like this has no need to be brought to the public eye until it is fully underway. RWW has been in the works for a month or so now, in anticipation of TrexHost.com closing its doors. While many of you are going to become quite skeptical, I was presented with three options with the given situation at TrexHost: 1. Let it fall on its on in its own time 2. Tell customers its closing and force them to leave 3. Provide a great alternative with familiar staff, transfer assistance as well as plan re compensation. I chose option #3. I am very busy at the moment, which is why I am leaving this short and sweet. Please don't hesitate to call me and ask any questions @ 443-569-5052 EDIT: I am sure you will be able to confirm all of the information provided. If you would like to submit a ticket at TrexHost please do so, I will respond there to verify as well.
Posted by ldcdc, 01-28-2008, 06:37 PM
Personally, even if the whole story is true, I'd be a bit worried about the legality of the email they've sent.
Posted by Hosting_Reserve, 01-28-2008, 06:41 PM
Sounds very strange... TrexHost.com signup page is still online, and there is nothing on the website..
Posted by clayt0n, 01-28-2008, 06:44 PM
I got the same e-mail..too bad, James was a good guy.
Posted by dotHostel, 01-28-2008, 06:46 PM
It seems SPAM.
Posted by Mike Hobgood, 01-28-2008, 06:49 PM
It's not an issue of legalities here, rather moralities. Had we done nothing, thousands of websites would be going down within 2 weeks. At least this way we are presenting the customers with an alternative. Trexhost is closed, many people can verify this as they have yet to receive responses to their tickets and on the 8th of next month, the servers are all being shut down. No one is being forced to signup with the company that was mentioned in the email, we are simply recommending it due to the fact that this will be an easy, good alternative given our access to both servers, and the fact that the customer relationships will not be lost. As for the TrexHost page, we are editing everything now. This kind of sprang upon us unexpectedly, we did not realize when the servers were to be turned off, so now we are somewhat rushing to ensure minimal downtimes and supreme service. Thanks
Posted by SSHocker, 01-28-2008, 06:57 PM
Mike, I am just a bit confused here. You claim to be the former "VP" of Trexhost, yet not 6 weeks ago you were advertsing wanting employment in a part/fulltime CSR role
Posted by Mike Hobgood, 01-28-2008, 07:00 PM
Yes, during that time I was working unpaid since the owner of the business paypal, James, was unable to be found. I was looking for a part time job to fund the startup of RisingWebWorks.
Posted by rv_irl, 01-28-2008, 07:20 PM
Moralities are not the issue here. Legalities is the primary concern. What if you take all these customers and then are faced with a lawsuit if the owner does return? What then? Everyone would be in a limbo.. Regardless of whether this is moral or ethical or whatnot. It is absolutely clear that you have not thought this through and certainly does say something about the stance of the new company along with how it operates or intends to operate. Not the best of decisions at all.
Posted by Mike Hobgood, 01-28-2008, 07:39 PM
I appreciate your input Rameen, and it will definitely be taken into consideration with future decisions.
Posted by Shaw Networks, 01-28-2008, 10:02 PM
Doesn't make much sense to me, why didn't Trexhost just rename itself to RisingWebWorks or merge with the company. Seems like they are going to incurr a lot of unecessary customer loss by having everyone re-signup.
Posted by Hosting_Reserve, 01-28-2008, 10:08 PM
Agreed.. You would have thought RisingWebWorks would have been in a position to take over the servers at the very least. Especially if they are run by Trexhost former VP.... Edit: except they are putting the costs up... Last edited by Hosting_Reserve; 01-28-2008 at 10:09 PM. Reason: added comment
Posted by Mike Hobgood, 01-28-2008, 10:54 PM
There were several internal complications which would have made doing that near impossible. While I don't see the need to discuss the reason's why here, if you'd truly like to know why we didn't simply takeover TrexHost feel free to contact me.
Posted by Hastings, 01-29-2008, 12:14 AM
I can stand for Michael in that he's an honest guy, this is no scam or con - I used to be a staff member @ TrexHost, and I noticed some interesting things going on in which I assumed would lead to the end of the company in time - sure enough, it has. I don't wish to go in to detail other than James, the old owner of Trexhost, seemed a bit odd at times, got defensive at random things, seemed to disappear for days or even weeks with no warning, leaving Michael in the dark.
Posted by Mike Hobgood, 01-29-2008, 01:14 AM
Much appreciated Hunter
Posted by yourcath22, 01-29-2008, 03:06 AM
Yeah I got this email too. Michael has always been straightforward and helpful, and I can appreciate the email with a heads up, but I think it would have benefited you and your new company to see things through to the end. About an hour after you sent this, the MYSQL server crashed and since there is no one there to fix it, that pretty much spelled the end of Trexhost as far as I am concerned. It would have been nice if you had worked with customers and answered their questions and tech issues for another 2 weeks and I think you would have gotten a much more positive response to your company. You still were considered VP of the company until today, regardless of pay as that is not your customers concern. I ended up going with a different company, LayeredTech for my hosting for now instead of your new company. I am sorry, but I just felt abandoned when all was said and done.
Posted by TimothyH, 01-29-2008, 03:33 AM
TrexHost's signup form is now offline. I tell ya what, when I read this thread, I thought it was just a scam.
Posted by ldcdc, 01-29-2008, 08:24 AM
Morally then, all you had to do was to notify the customers and portray the situation as it is. The hosting industry doesn't lack alternatives, Trexhost was not offering something that exotic. There was no need to effectively attempt to transfer these customers to your company (even if you may feel that it somehow is warranted, given the lack of wage payments). If morality was the motive, you could at least ensure that customers get decent uptime with the company you were VP of, up to the time when they will be taken off by the data center. Sorry, but "conflict of interest" is written all over this story. Last edited by ldcdc; 01-29-2008 at 08:38 AM.
Posted by samavip, 01-29-2008, 03:43 PM
befor some month i talk with james and ask him about Michael Hobgood he say Out of business and then get email from Michael
Posted by eclouds, 01-29-2008, 03:48 PM
Formed in early 2007? The domain was only registered 19 days ago. I think you meant early 2008.
Posted by samavip, 01-29-2008, 03:52 PM
i talk with him about 3 month or 4 i thinks then we get email from Michael
Posted by zwtint, 01-29-2008, 04:00 PM
WebHostMike, I would really appriciate If you could be online on AIM! Sincerelly, Last edited by zwtint; 01-29-2008 at 04:02 PM. Reason: no signature
Posted by Finer - Jack, 01-29-2008, 04:12 PM
I see nothing on trexhost website or forums? ... Edit: Webhosting stuff ethics reset today 29th jan 2008.. as well as uptime records.
Posted by Mike Hobgood, 01-29-2008, 06:01 PM
The Trex Website orders have been disabled, etc. As for the domain, we were formerly known as RisingHost.net which was indeed registered early 2007, as previously stated. I am online now for anyone who wishes to contact me. Thanks!
Posted by amckern, 01-30-2008, 03:04 AM
I dont see the need to SPAM every one on the trexhost userbase with a website that people would be skipitcal of. I am going to stay with trexhost until they close, and then am moving to DH again.
Posted by taylorwilsdon, 01-30-2008, 03:18 AM
And your website redirects to Peerless Machines (another company owned by a webhostingtalk user) why? This seems like the previous/current/MIA owner would be wide open to a lawsuit if he felt like it.
Posted by steven99, 01-30-2008, 05:35 AM
Uh, yeah that is kinda confusing, huh? But if you look at http://risingwebworks.com/ (without clicking the link in his sig) it goes to the proper place... the link in his sig is pointed to https://www.peerlessmachines.com/ even though the link says http://risingwebworks.com/ . Strange.
Posted by RSkeens, 01-30-2008, 11:55 AM
Wow, that is interesting!
Posted by raine, 01-30-2008, 12:13 PM
all of my sites are down at the moment... this is not looking good. I can't get into WHM/cpanel because the drive is out of space... and I can't access the sites Mike, please help!
Posted by eclouds, 01-30-2008, 01:45 PM
I also saw reports on another forum about sites and databases being down. One can assume the end has come.
Posted by raine, 01-30-2008, 02:17 PM
so, what can I do to recover my data? is there a way to find out who Trexhost is renting from?
Posted by eclouds, 01-30-2008, 02:27 PM
I doubt Softlayer will give you access to data on a server that isn't yours.
Posted by raine, 01-30-2008, 02:28 PM
right, but if they close down, I'm hoping I have a way of getting my info back, right?
Posted by eclouds, 01-30-2008, 02:29 PM
Not unless they give it to you. (Trexhost). Contact Michael since he has posted here. He is the only one who can help you I believe.
Posted by samavip, 01-30-2008, 02:44 PM
contact Michael Hobgood and Steven Pecroni
Posted by raine, 01-30-2008, 02:45 PM
I can't find Mike, how do I find Steven?
Posted by Mike Hobgood, 01-30-2008, 02:50 PM
Hello Keith, Your server is not down for good. As you know, we have been completing backups and transfers nearlyt 24/7 which is making the server unreachable. Your data IS safe, and you will be given full backups of all of your sites. As for the signature, I used a base copy of one of the Peerless Machine sigatures, however heavily modified it. I must have forgotten to update the link. My apologies.
Posted by raine, 01-30-2008, 02:52 PM
Hi Mike, that's GREAT to know... you've just won yourself a customer. Please contact me as soon as you can so that I can arrange for downloading the backups. Thanks
Posted by bma1445, 01-31-2008, 03:45 PM
Hi Mike, I've tried emailing you at trexhost to no avail. Could you please get me a complete backup of all of my accounts on trexhost (bma-uk.co.uk being the primary domain and the accounts I have in WHM) as the server is now completely dead (I cannot access it http/ftp/ssh/email at all). If you could get this to me ASAP it would be highly appreciated as I have some really important stuff on there. Also, you promised that the servers would be online until the 8th . Thanks ever so much Brian
Posted by raine, 01-31-2008, 03:57 PM
In the same spirit, Mike, I'd appreciate it if you could make all account backups under VisualPoetry.ca available for download as well. Thanks so much
Posted by bma1445, 01-31-2008, 04:14 PM
Mike, I've also added you to MSN, and if you would be able to come online on there, it would be brilliant . Thanks
Posted by KiLaTeS, 01-31-2008, 06:38 PM
trex host page is down and everything is down all day long
Posted by bpdbrad, 01-31-2008, 07:02 PM
This type of stuff makes me paranoid even though I'm not hosted with trex.
Posted by KiLaTeS, 01-31-2008, 07:10 PM
I am, basicaly i was but well, thanks god i made to all mi custommers yesterday full backups and i downloaded them, my friend didnt ran with the same lucky, he made his backups and he didndt download them.......... Last edited by KiLaTeS; 01-31-2008 at 07:11 PM. Reason: made mistake
Posted by webster13045, 01-31-2008, 08:51 PM
that is going to piss me off i have about 100 sites with them my sites went down today and i was never informed of anything now how am i going to get backups not to mention i was just charged for my monthly Last edited by webster13045; 01-31-2008 at 09:02 PM.
Posted by KiLaTeS, 01-31-2008, 10:02 PM
we are in the same, at least they contacted me and im now doing everything by hand all restore because they said the ssh was not working or i dont know what else.............
Posted by kingofmerit, 01-31-2008, 10:33 PM
I cannot connect to all of my sites, cPanel, WHM etc. The Trex's servers were down. What will I do now TrexMichael? Please tell me know what the matter of our sites. Trying to signup with RisingWebWorks but maybe there is a problem with the seller PayPal email .
Posted by webster13045, 01-31-2008, 10:34 PM
i will sign up if my sites will be transfered however i have yet to get a reply from support
Posted by profitdollar, 01-31-2008, 11:08 PM
Hello... I'm also having trouble with my reseller account in trexhost. It's good to hear mike has backup all the customer files. I would like to have my back up data or maybe u (mike) can setup an account for me in RisingWebWorks since you have all the data. It's easier for me to host with you. I'll send support ticket to you for more information.
Posted by Frankc, 01-31-2008, 11:45 PM
It's very frustrating. Michael says it was going to be down on february 8th.. but it's already down for at least 8 hours now. Now, sure he got our backup but he will probably give it to customer who only follow him with his own company.
Posted by webster13045, 02-01-2008, 12:03 AM
i got hold of mike he has stated We are working relentlessly to restore clients data. TrexHost's servers were unplugged due to their non-payment. I am putting out 1700$ out of pocket which I should not be doing to have their clients data back online and accessable for another week or so. Please be patient as we are working as fast as possible to resolve this. All sites should be online within 12 hours MAX.
Posted by raine, 02-01-2008, 12:06 AM
that's great to hear - well, if he does do this, then count me as a customer at RisingWebWorks
Posted by Mike Hobgood, 02-01-2008, 12:11 AM
Webster is correct. Please, I am begging you all for your patience in regards to this issue. We are quite aware of the seriousness of it, and we could really do without the constant insults/assumptions. Mike Hobgood RisingWebWorks.com
Posted by profitdollar, 02-01-2008, 12:12 AM
Yeah, it's good to hear that news... I'm sure mike will do his best to back up all the data. So sad trexhost went down. =(
Posted by Outlaw Web Master, 02-01-2008, 12:20 AM
I know it's frustrating and you guys will be panicking about your data etc. However, let Mike and his team concentrate more on matters of urgency, like getting your accounts back up and running, instead of them having to walk the gauntlet of insults and rage in here, because it serves no purpose. In a few hours time it'll be all be fine....I'm willing to bet $$$ on that. <--------Any Takers? Also, when it is all sorted out, I'm curious as to how many people will post their gratitude to RWW for sorting the mess out left by Trex. owm Last edited by Outlaw Web Master; 02-01-2008 at 12:24 AM.
Posted by webster13045, 02-01-2008, 12:23 AM
no bets from me but all my sites are going to be moved to risingwebworks.com
Posted by raine, 02-01-2008, 12:27 AM
I'm in for RWW. I can understand his position as well. The Trexhost situation is not Mike's fault at all, as he is not James. He is merely offering to back up all the data/restore accounts and hoping that we'd move to his new company with him for helping us recover our data. In my opinion, that's a fair trade.
Posted by Mike Hobgood, 02-01-2008, 12:34 AM
I was also offering backups even if you WERENT coming, which alot of people mis-understood, I simply didnt/don't have the time to come on here and rectify things every 10 minutes when another false accusation is made. Thanks for the support never the less.
Posted by Frankc, 02-01-2008, 12:35 AM
Well if websites are coming back online, I'll probably give a shot at RWW. To Outlaw; you have to understand that it was frustrating for all the costumers that sees all their website down and already thinking about all the customers that are going to call us tomorrow. Plus, we were panicking because we had no idea of what's going on. Problem with the server? Problem with the connexion? Or simply they decide to shut down everything today? This was all the different option, and we can found much more, that came to our mind.
Posted by kingofmerit, 02-01-2008, 12:47 AM
Thanks so much Mike, Hope you will finish this task soon.
Posted by boggle, 02-01-2008, 07:27 AM
I thanks Mike for his efforts and doing the right thing when he could have washed his hands of trexhost. We should all wait patiently for our sites to be back up hopefully it will be soon and then everyone can stop paniking Lets hear it for Mike and his team
Posted by IPv6, 02-01-2008, 08:43 AM
I know this might be some stupid question of legalities, but for once, not a pissed off ex employee first of all - genuine nice guy that wants to help.
Posted by David, 02-01-2008, 10:30 AM
Phew, this is going to need a lot of popcorn when the original owner returns. Genuine or not, it's going to be ugly if the original owner ever takes it to court. He'll then own two companies rather than one. Last edited by David; 02-01-2008 at 10:42 AM.
Posted by RealEulogy, 02-01-2008, 12:11 PM
I'm pissed right off. This has to be the most unprofessional thing I've ever seen. I will not follow you your new host. Absolutely not. Wow, thanks for waiting to tell your customers. I really appreciate you knowing this and not telling any of the customers. Let's assume you knew about it on January 10th, when you registered that domain name. You waited 18 days to send out an email. Why the Hell did you wait that long? Than you tell us we have 10 days as of the email, and it's down in under 3. I'm just so happy and cheerful that my sites are all down NOT making money. Cause I'm not in a business, I just put websites up to stroke my ego. In another forum you stated you couldn't get ahold of James, the owner. You called him, his parents, friends, etc, but couldn't find him. Hmmmm, than you state, he lives 30 minutes away. HMMMMMMMM!!! Okay, you can't contact your boss. He obviously isn't paying you. And it didn't seem to enter into your mind to just drive 30 minutes to his place and find out what's going on. Trexhost LLC... Is trexhost really a limited liability corporation? Is James still in high school? Are you older than 18 Mike? Here's a piece of advice. The next time you commit corporate espionage you should probably talk to a lawyer. He would probably advise you a.) don't do it b.) if you do it, don't say your hosting will be "shut down" in an unreasonable amount of time and c.) don't offer your own hosting especially at a higher cost than what they're paying now. I'm pissed. Mike, I want you to admit you're lying. Your story doesn't make any sense. You live 30 minutes away from the guy. You decided a month in advance to profit from the downfall without telling any of the clients of trexhost. You're a cheat and liar. Last edited by RealEulogy; 02-01-2008 at 12:16 PM.
Posted by JohnJ, 02-01-2008, 12:45 PM
No, he is not. However, in particular cases age does not matter.
Posted by RealEulogy, 02-01-2008, 12:54 PM
Are you serious??? Please tell me you're joking.
Posted by Hosting_Reserve, 02-01-2008, 01:04 PM
Don't most reputable server suppliers require you to be 18 when obtaining servers/IP space? For contractual reasons? Edit: I suppose that depends on what country you get the servers from though... Last edited by Hosting_Reserve; 02-01-2008 at 01:08 PM.
Posted by raine, 02-01-2008, 02:00 PM
Alright folks, I need some help here. My sites are back online but I'm not sure for how long - I'd like to backup everything, however, the "backup" feature is not available in WHM or Cpanel. I've asked one of my other hosts to do a backup/transfer but they said that feature is no enabled, however, when I asked Stephen from Trexhost, he said that backup was never disabled, it just needs to be enabled in the features. I'm at a loss here - how do I enable backups? And, if I can't, how else can I easily transfer 50 gigs of data? Thanks
Posted by webster13045, 02-01-2008, 02:03 PM
im in same boat any help or info would be great
Posted by TPHosting, 02-01-2008, 02:05 PM
Have you looked in the features list in WHM to see if it is enabled?
Posted by Skylar MacMinn, 02-01-2008, 02:11 PM
Hahaha he thought he would get away with taking the customers, with nobody asking questions? Ya.. he just created more issuse. The biggest turnoff is his whole "cannot get ahold story" and the fact that their costs are more spendy. Let alone their website isn't complete, and they have a "testimonial" which is 100% fake.
Posted by webster13045, 02-01-2008, 02:13 PM
at this point i can care less about who is right or wrong my sites are the main issue in hand not to mention james just got up and left i have not been able to contact him for some time now
Posted by Frankc, 02-01-2008, 02:17 PM
Here's something funny.. (took on : http://www.trexhost.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=448 ) Don't want to look like a guy searching trouble Michael but I'd like if you could tell us how you did sent an email, how you can do all backups and have access to root, etc, while you're not working there anymore. Because right now, it's look like a proof that you are trying to steal customers from your ex-employer since you no longer works for Trexhost.
Posted by Skylar MacMinn, 02-01-2008, 02:18 PM
So get the backup, and find another host -- there are a large amount of them out there that are fantastic. He had to have stolen a database of some sort -- I had opened ONE ticket with them MONTHS ago -- and I got the original email too.. Bit strange as I never registered eh?
Posted by webster13045, 02-01-2008, 02:29 PM
im under a reseller account when i do a backup it only backs up the main domain on the reseller account not all the sites
Posted by raine, 02-01-2008, 02:31 PM
I'm on a reseller account too, but I don't have that feature.
Posted by profitdollar, 02-01-2008, 02:31 PM
I really wonder, where is James??? What happen to him? He should clear this thing to all his customers... I don't know who should be blamed but i think mike is trying to save the customers even though it's look like he's "stealing" the customer from trexhost... But, he stand up for the customers and now, trexhost is up again... Many Thanks webster13045 : i think u should back up one by one for all your domain?
Posted by Frankc, 02-01-2008, 02:35 PM
Great.. I was trying to do some backup and then my sites crashed again.. Dunno If it's the server again or my Ip was banned because I requested too many packets..
Posted by webster13045, 02-01-2008, 02:37 PM
i was expecting an easier way i got 100+ sites but if thats the way i have to do it i have no choice
Posted by Frankc, 02-01-2008, 02:39 PM
webster take care.. I was trying to do a backup through ftp and because the server received too many packets request from me it banned my Ip.. so I can no longer access to sites..
Posted by profitdollar, 02-01-2008, 02:45 PM
Yeah... i don't know if there's another way to back up.. someone told me to use ssh using putty.. but i don't know how to use that way.
Posted by webster13045, 02-01-2008, 03:06 PM
i am thankfull to mike for everything he has done however it seems trexhost would have sold the company rather than just shutting down? i mean would a company owner not want to try and make some money back?
Posted by jrcdude, 02-01-2008, 03:44 PM
Really unfortunate. Hey Mike, if you could get on MSN that would be great. Thanks.
Posted by Mike Hobgood, 02-01-2008, 04:06 PM
First off, Let me explain a few things in regards to this post. I started a position at a local store, where my manager and I plotted up RisingWebWorks. We had 0 intentions of obtaining TrexHosts clients(NOTE: I may have made myself unclear in previous posts), or stepping in for them at all. I had told a few former co-workers at TrexHost about this new company, and everything was good. Around the 22nd of January, I recieved a message from the one person still doing un-paid volunteer work at TrexHost, Steven. Because James was overdue on his bills, Softlayer had told him that the servers would be turned off on the eighth of February. Because of this sudden deadline, we had to rush into getting our website ready for the public, and prepare a somewhat decent presentation of our company online. We started out with WHMCS and a StarDevelop combination, however quickly realized the downsides and ordered Kayako Support suite. We started with a simple grand central number, and now have a Toll free coming very soon. I truly get upset when people accuse us of scamming, when in reality, we are doing a very large favor. Last night, After many hours of negotiations with Soft Layer and finally being able to communicate with someone who had TrexHost PayPal access, We were able to get the servers online for a cost of 1000$. Please note, we contributed a large portion to get these servers back online, had we not, data loss and more downtime would have occurred. I do truly apologize about all of the inconveniences experienced over the last few days, but I assure you this has not been easy on us either. Our staff has been putting in 24 hour shifts, as well as donating money out of our own pockets to get the servers turned back on at Soft Layer last night. As far as your assumptions go, James, the owner, Lives, or lived in Pensacola, Florida. If I could get to Florida in 30 minutes as you claim, I would be their right now relaxing and getting away from all of this. TrexHost was indeed an LLC, from what I am told. To be honest, I never had the need to verify that. I was informed that I would have to the eighth to give all clients their information and transfer clients, however, Softlayer decided to pull the plugs early, which they had every right to given TrexHost was overdue. We then payed partly out of pocket a grand sum of 1000$ to have the servers turned on for one week for you all. Please remember that, for you all. The Testimonial on the front page is indeed not real. We were rushed into getting our website ready, so as you may have noticed, several links are not yet working, I.e. The Datacenter link as well as our web design link. These will be fixed promptly. The testimonial was their as filler text, placed their by our Coders/Designers at MediaGate.com - feel free to contact them and verify this if you truly wish to do so. In regards to higher cost, yup, the prices are higher, and they are also non-negotiable. TrexHost had a lot of unpleasant clients, i.e. mail spammers, and heavy resource using clients. We will not stand for that hear. That is one reason the cost is slightly higher. The other reason being our servers are a step up from those of TrexHost. Just remember, you get what you pay for. Another reminder, To all clients who signed up, and have not yet had their sites restored, we will be more than happy to adjust your billing date. Please submit a ticket when your next invoice comes out, and we will adjust it promptly. Thanks for your time
Posted by Frankc, 02-01-2008, 04:27 PM
Well Mike, if you say that costs aren't negotiable then chances that I'll move to RWW are pretty low. I can get about the same amount of webspace and bandwith with Hostgator.com for about the same price. They are reliable, they have 24/7 support and they exist for about 5 years now.. I don't think I'll ever go with a company that exist for less than 3 years now. It's the 3rd company that close his doors after couple of months I signup with them. I thought that 2 years in business was enough to consider a hosting reliable but it doesn't seem to be finally.
Posted by Andrew.S, 02-01-2008, 07:26 PM
I can confirm that Risingwebworks has access to trexhost servers and Are transferring accounts. There is nothing unlegal here. The email they sent was notifying the customers about whats happening and how they can help prevent their website being down.
Posted by IPv6, 02-01-2008, 07:47 PM
as a note: james really has been completely gone - no one knows where he is, period, or has any contact. there isn't much chance he will even think about coming back.
Posted by David, 02-01-2008, 08:17 PM
There is nothing unlegal here", haha. That's great stuff. 1. Mike is stealing clients from his previous employer. 2. His previous employer isn't even legally registered. 3. You're all kids, get the hell back to class. Stop playing hookey, or these days 'web hosting' during lunch breaks.
Posted by JohnJ, 02-01-2008, 08:43 PM
I'm a teen, not a kid.
Posted by IPv6, 02-01-2008, 08:43 PM
I'm somewhat of a teen, not an adult.
Posted by Outlaw Web Master, 02-01-2008, 08:46 PM
Do you realise that does not add up in the slightest. James has vanished....cool. No one knows where he is or has contact with him...cool BUT...there isn't much chance that he will even think about coming back??? Did you receive that message in a dream? How could anyone know that he wouldn't even think of coming back unless he'd told someone, therefore he can't have vanished completely to have told some person that he wouldn't even think about coming back. These crap statements are only pouring petrol onto the fire and making clients believe there's something amiss with the entire equasion. It's better to engage one's brain & think before opening one's geggy to let the inconsistencies just spew out. owm Last edited by Outlaw Web Master; 02-01-2008 at 08:53 PM.
Posted by Brian-de-vie, 02-01-2008, 09:34 PM
Re. the above. Why have Risingwebworks got access to Trexhost servers, who has the legal right to give them access ? I'm sure this maybe well intentioned, but it realy does hum. Re. James, was/is he real ? has he morphed into another person ? It all just feels/sounds wrong, and its the little customers that are going to suffer the most.
Posted by Brian-de-vie, 02-01-2008, 09:44 PM
Mike , with respect, helping people out has often got me into trouble, I hope you don't find the same.
Posted by Hosting_Reserve, 02-01-2008, 09:57 PM
I have been thinking the same thing for a while now. Did Trexhost just realize they were making no money from the clients they had? Then just decided to ditch half of them? This 'Mike' has already pointed out that Trexhost had some "bad clients" and his new business would *not* want them. I don't know, but unless I had personally met both these guys I would not be convinced.....
Posted by Hastings, 02-01-2008, 10:18 PM
I can contest that they are different people, as I've spoken with them both on the phone with different numbers and area codes completely. The rest of this I'll stay out of - I really don't know much about it.
Posted by kstavert, 02-01-2008, 10:33 PM
Mike, take a deep breath. I'm truly sorry that you are in this position. I know how very difficult it is to explain things to the masses and try to be understood. I am very, very grateful that you took it upon yourself to turn the servers back on. There will come a point in time when you will be able to laugh about some of this. The best lessons in life are ALWAYS the toughest to walk through. Again, thank you. Karen
Posted by Andrew.S, 02-02-2008, 12:02 AM
I got to say its great working with Mike
Posted by Frankc, 02-02-2008, 12:35 AM
Mike, do you think It would be possible to access MySQL ? It's not working and all our forums are down aswel as phpmyadmin... Thx
Posted by Mike Hobgood, 02-02-2008, 12:50 AM
Frankc, what server are you on? Please shoot me a message or call at 443-995-8247. Thanks.
Posted by orangewebhosting0net, 02-02-2008, 05:25 AM
Not being funny but i think you guys should ease off webhostmike and rww what it seems to me reading these threads that james the owner of trexhost was well known to disappear for days/weeks, but this last disappearance has gone on too long for the guys at trexhost to carry on running HIS company, they didn't have access to the company paypal so they worked for free for weeks and also had no access to funds to pay for there servers. so what could they have done not pay the bills, the server unplugged, everyone left in the dark with no explanation why they cant access there sites and data, no backups tell people there closing down you have to find a new host sorry They cant sell the site as they don't own it or make a new company and say, look trexhost is being forced to close down because the owner is missing, the trexhost team has started a new company, were not saying you have to come to us but, we do have access to both company servers so we can transfer you over no problem, we already know you as customers, and you know you can trust trexhost support so you can trust ours because we are effectively the same people - which they have done You saying its unmoral to do this its unmoral to let the server go and everyone be screwed, this act shows loyalty if anything to customers providing a sensible alternative to it Out of the four options i stated which one would you have choose?
Posted by Hosting_Reserve, 02-02-2008, 08:09 AM
I have nothing against Mike personally, and if he is helping his clients (at Trexhost) then GOOD ON HIM. But he was the VP at Trexhost, so you work it out from there. If James does indeed disappear regularly whats stopping him coming back tomorrow or the next day.... But as I say if Mike is helping his clients GOOD ON HIM..
Posted by KiLaTeS, 02-02-2008, 10:10 AM
what i cant understand is, i left like 6 phone messages already, like 2 ticket supports, and no response... i need to get my sites from there and put them in the new reseller i got, i was trying to doit manually and is almost imposible... if someone can help me please... because the guy who selled me the new reseller everytime he is trying to transfer everything, trex servers went down... i need HELP! and yes i called to 443-995-8247 and 443-563-5052 and live support ovethere is always away, and i submited a ticket couple hours ago and nothing, and last night and no response...
Posted by David, 02-02-2008, 10:15 AM
The only thing Mike is doing is helping himself to the clients. "Oh, what a surprise the company I was working for is going under! Oh, and by the way I've been working on my own company for the past two months with all of the other employees... here's a link just in case you need hosting."
Posted by Andrew.S, 02-02-2008, 10:49 AM
Can you PM Me your Domain Name and username or submit a ticket at http://risingwebworks.com/support. I would like to get this resolved for you as I am an Level 2 Tech here at Rising Web Works
Posted by IPv6, 02-02-2008, 10:50 AM
you know, the least you could do is provide a coupon or something so trexhost customers can continue on at the same price for a year or two
Posted by Andrew.S, 02-02-2008, 10:51 AM
We arent stealing the client's at all.
Posted by Andrew.S, 02-02-2008, 10:53 AM
Actually Procyon, We already have been doing that.
Posted by KiLaTeS, 02-02-2008, 11:31 AM
i have 2 open tickets bro right now they guy is trying to do the transfer and shows this error... Error while copying account...! Aborting Extraction just added you andrew submited another ticket............. Last edited by bear; 02-02-2008 at 11:42 AM.
Posted by bear, 02-02-2008, 11:44 AM
KiLaTeS, please stick with their support desk for support, and don't post 4 times in a row when you can edit. This is not IM.
Posted by KiLaTeS, 02-02-2008, 11:55 AM
my bad bro, but im so mad, i can not do anything my pages have been down for the last 4 or 5 days, they said they have 24/7 live support, is always away, i submited tickets with not response, i called and leaved voice mails to call me back, nothing, what i have to do?
Posted by Brian-de-vie, 02-02-2008, 12:06 PM
Earlier Andrew said If that option is not working the readers here would want to know, but I don't think we don't want Trexhost/risingweb, to start using the WHT forum as it's 'support system'.
Posted by Mike Hobgood, 02-02-2008, 02:31 PM
Invoce 104981 02/01/2008 Feel free to verify with softlayer. Also, the owner of this company Is Brent Hartzell, who is of legal age by far. You guys don't give up do you?
Posted by twenty4web, 02-02-2008, 02:58 PM
yeah, NOT, nice try! It`s funny how you have time to respond here, but yet there are so many people trying to get a hold of you...
Posted by Mike Hobgood, 02-02-2008, 03:02 PM
ExTRex, have you personally tried to contact me?
Posted by twenty4web, 02-02-2008, 03:29 PM
yes, we have tried to contact rising web Several times, Several Ways. You should try turning on the live chat too!
Posted by Mike Hobgood, 02-02-2008, 03:39 PM
We are on live chat ExTrex. Can you give a specific reference to when you tried to contact me, IE, ticket #? Call time? You can call our toll free number 1-800-491-6343 at anytime or come on live chat. Thanks
Posted by twenty4web, 02-02-2008, 03:44 PM
ya right never online for me never
Posted by KiLaTeS, 02-02-2008, 03:45 PM
mike i have 3 tickets open and i left like 3 voice mails, im waiting bro....
Posted by Mike Hobgood, 02-02-2008, 03:46 PM
ExTrex, you go on FWS, register a new account, and right a post totally bashing us. You try and do the same here, yet when I ask for references so I can see what you are talking about you simply change the subject. I would appreciate if a mod would edit/delete his posts. ExTrex, We are On live chat right now. We are available by phone right now, please call us.
Posted by twenty4web, 02-02-2008, 03:50 PM
I`m not calling you , why should i spend more money. I didn`t change any topic, please re-read, And I have everyright to bash you
Posted by Mike Hobgood, 02-02-2008, 03:53 PM
Ok, don't call. Can you please give me your ticket ID's for reference?
Posted by twenty4web, 02-02-2008, 03:54 PM
your confusing me with kilates... what tickets
Posted by Mike Hobgood, 02-02-2008, 03:59 PM
No, I have talked with Kilates already, he is squared away. You say you have tried several ways to contact us, I am simply asking for proof. Even your name would be enough.
Posted by twenty4web, 02-02-2008, 04:03 PM
I said everyone has been trying to contact you different ways
Posted by bryonhost1, 02-02-2008, 04:04 PM
Hi! Mike...this is getting old quick. What state is your LLC regsitered in? Or is it just assumed that Brent Hartwell registered it..umm..like last time..with trex? As long as you get a pretty title..? >>>How do I contact brent, then? Bryon
Posted by twenty4web, 02-02-2008, 04:08 PM
There is no way they would have had time to register it. plain and simple. especially since they didn`t know all this was going to happen.
Posted by Mike Hobgood, 02-02-2008, 04:17 PM
You can contact brent using brent@risingwebworks.com Our paperwork has been long submitted. Regular processing time is 7-8 weeks, I am not sure whether or not he added on the expedited fee to have it within 7 days.
Posted by bryonhost1, 02-02-2008, 04:18 PM
Hi! Naaa..they didn't know any of this was going to happen..right. Owner disappears over a month ago..no contact at all..and yet Mike says: He is not reachable where he is, and won't be for a long time. Thanks But Mike doesn't know where he is and has had no contact. Fact: Somebody ain't telling the truth. Mike also said, "He paid the $1700 "out of his own pocket" and yet..now..today..Brent suddenly owns the company that..by the way..does not legally exist... Lies..lies..and more lies. Excuse me...but it seems like the worst possible way to start a new "company". Bryon Last edited by bryonhost1; 02-02-2008 at 04:22 PM.
Posted by Mike Hobgood, 02-02-2008, 04:21 PM
It's not that we didn't know nothing was going to happen, we didn't know What was going to happen. With all due respect, Bryon you know 0% of the facts/truth and you're really just agitating me. But hey, what can I do? EDIT: I do know where he is, I am not going to disclose that though because it is no ones business. A few people know, just ask around.
Posted by Steve_Arm, 02-02-2008, 04:24 PM
Hey Mike care to share with us what actually happened to the owner, since it looks like he ain't coming back?
Posted by twenty4web, 02-02-2008, 04:26 PM
QUOTE=WebhostMike;4939757]It's not that we didn't know nothing was going to happen, we didn't know What was going to happen. With all due respect, Bryon you know 0% of the facts/truth and you're really just agitating me. But hey, what can I do? EDIT: I do know where he is, I am not going to disclose that though because it is no ones business. A few people know, just ask around.[/QUOTE I am sure he is in jail. none of your stories add up. it`s very easy to catch you on what you said and what you say. Don`t you know it`s easy to be caught in a lie!
Posted by bryonhost1, 02-02-2008, 04:26 PM
Hi! Ohho! Moi? An agitant. Gosh..that's a noted improvement over what I've been called in the past. Thank You! Ok..so now you admit you have been lying to us all along? Gosh.. >>Shhh. Steve. It's information on a need-to-know basis. We don't need ta know. Bryon
Posted by twenty4web, 02-02-2008, 04:34 PM
Why would it be any of the customers business where our money has went and where the owner is............Hmmmmmmm! duh!
Posted by neil@ukwebhosting, 02-02-2008, 04:38 PM
Maybe because its a personal matter and doesn't feel its for him to disclose it. Are you hosted with Trek extrex? Maybe you would be better of trying to get the answer from the them where you're money is.
Posted by twenty4web, 02-02-2008, 05:21 PM
explain your packages on your site as they are a lie too! haha Front page shows Reseller Plans From $19.99: 200,000 MB Transfer 30,000 MB Storage Control panel-WHM $19.99 Where is that package ?
Posted by bryonhost1, 02-02-2008, 05:31 PM
Hi! I know! It's a "virtual" package! I just noticed something, Mike. In your letter..you claim the CEO title. Why are you the COO on here? Or is that only for WHT? What state will the LLC be registered in? Or do I need to ask Brent? Bryon Last edited by bryonhost1; 02-02-2008 at 05:36 PM.
Posted by KyleB325, 02-02-2008, 06:52 PM
I decided to try out RWW, and I'm not regreting it..
Posted by Brian-de-vie, 02-02-2008, 06:55 PM
Mike, your not doing yourself or your new business any favours, if you know "where he is", he must be reachable, it might be difficult, but you need to 'reach' him, pref. through your lawyer.
Posted by Brian-de-vie, 02-02-2008, 06:58 PM
Is it not rather early days to be saying that, why not wait 12 months & do a full review, then it will have some cred. .
Posted by KyleB325, 02-02-2008, 06:58 PM
IM starting to think James left the counntry...lol Here is info for some ppl above me: LLC is registered in Florida. Alot of the customers liked James, and I'm one of them. & he was a very generous man
Posted by KyleB325, 02-02-2008, 07:00 PM
I've been hosted there for about 2weeks now. & I can tell I won't regret it either because support is on like always, P.S Why are you guys looking for flaws? If you dont want to go with them or w/e Don't ruin someone elses buisness
Posted by AHFBWEB, 02-02-2008, 07:14 PM
Please give a domain you have hosted with them.
Posted by KiLaTeS, 02-02-2008, 07:18 PM
well after try out for like 4 days to get my accounts moved, i finally got them, a guy from www.banahosting.com helped me out and did all transfer, everything is smooth now... i recomended
Posted by twenty4web, 02-02-2008, 07:23 PM
how can you be hosted with them for two weeks... you know how `pissed off that makes customers feel.. obviously mike shared with you before the rest of us.. which makes him even a BIGGER liar. either that or you are one too! which is it... this is really all coming out .... very interesting. sorry but you sound like you are 12 too... again it`s illegal,little billy...er..um..kyle Last edited by twenty4web; 02-02-2008 at 07:37 PM.
Posted by Brian-de-vie, 02-02-2008, 07:53 PM
Maybe not the words that I would have used, but the thinking is similar, although you missed out the option that there personalities are very similar.
Posted by KyleB325, 02-02-2008, 07:55 PM
Umm what are you talking about? liar? huh? If you were a Trexhost customer you'd know what I'm talking about
Posted by neil@ukwebhosting, 02-02-2008, 08:24 PM
What he has done might be shady, that depends on the full facts. But I don't see how he has ripped you off? He has done nothing of the sort.
Posted by twenty4web, 02-02-2008, 08:32 PM
When someone shuts down servers to get customers to move over.. thats ripping me off. so, I am not sure why that is difficult for you to understand.
Posted by KyleB325, 02-02-2008, 08:35 PM
MIKE OR STEVEN ARE NOT SHUTTING THE SERVERS DOWN! -Servers get disconnected on their own. They reccommeneded to move over, they DID NOT MAKE you move over.
Posted by neil@ukwebhosting, 02-02-2008, 08:37 PM
Did he shut the servers down or softlayer due to lack of payments. If Mike had done nothing you'd still be in the same position, but this time you would have had to kick and screen at the AWOL owner of trexhost.
Posted by twenty4web, 02-02-2008, 08:37 PM
again...just `stop now`! you over did it.. don`t ionvolve yourself in a `thread`if you can`t bother to read the `whole`thing... and reviews... this is not the review thread. BUDDY!
Posted by Andrew.S, 02-02-2008, 08:39 PM
The servers were disconnected due to non-payment, Rising Web Works stepped in and paid for an week for the servers to be up on the public network.
Posted by twenty4web, 02-02-2008, 08:41 PM
thats what they say... yet it does not add up, regardless..
Posted by writespeak, 02-02-2008, 09:13 PM
Thread reopened after cleaning so that those who want to discuss the issue can do so. Let's keep this thread polite now. Discuss the issue only, and avoid personal attacks on other members. If you think that a member is being rude, please report it, and don't respond the same way. Anyone who is rude again in this thread will be banned from this thread. The discussion can continue now. Lois
Posted by Brian-de-vie, 02-02-2008, 09:58 PM
From another forum Mike said: "All efforts were made to contact the owner, however, it is near impossible to contact him where he is. We have continuously contacted his parents, relatives, and even family friends who are near 30 minutes from his location and still can't even get a hold of him." If he's so generous, why not give Trexhost to Mike & Co. ? and BTW Mike & Co. why were you not working 100% for Trexhost prior to this mess, the competion you set up Jan/Feb. 2007 was at the very least: 'A conflict of interest' & a distraction. If I ever learnt of any of my employies doing 'Private Work', they would be canned, no discussion. Last edited by Brian-de-vie; 02-02-2008 at 10:01 PM.
Posted by KyleB325, 02-02-2008, 10:03 PM
I think he's really on a family emergency...Becuase like Around Sept, he was on Family Emergency, and he returned for several days..Got sick, went to the hospital, and cam back for several weeks, and went away on Family Emergency, its possible he is out of country or out of state. If I were to work for him, I'd report him missing...
Posted by Andrew.S, 02-02-2008, 10:07 PM
James isnt on an family emergency, i think he probably ran off with his lover or something or he lost internet at his house because he couldnt afford to keep his internet up.
Posted by KyleB325, 02-02-2008, 10:16 PM
James was married, and had a kid. I think he is in; Jail Hell Dead
Posted by webster13045, 02-03-2008, 12:10 AM
i did not want to post this but this is the only way james is in fact in jail for what ever reasons is his business i talked with a co owner tonight that also said he was the one that forked over the money to get the servers back online and the email that was sent to everyone was sent without his consent the co owner also stated that he is taking the correct steps so RWW cannot get into the servers anymore all i am going to say is this is beginning to piss me off im not one that likes to get screwed also im not accusing anyone of anything as a client i just would like the facts im sure some may say this should not be public but in my opinion anyone that is hosted with trex should no the truth Last edited by webster13045; 02-03-2008 at 12:22 AM.
Posted by Outlaw Web Master, 02-03-2008, 12:31 AM
Just when you thought it couldn't get any messier. owm
Posted by twenty4web, 02-03-2008, 12:33 AM
ok, Mike, i took you up on your offer to check things out. You screwed us and you deserve this, your a cheat and a liar. here is 100% proof! I will always stick up for james as he was a good guy. Try it sometime. Attached Files 1.zip (80.7 KB, 196 views) 2.zip (67.8 KB, 137 views) 3.zip (68.8 KB, 173 views) 4.zip (76.1 KB, 128 views) 5.zip (76.9 KB, 156 views)
Posted by twenty4web, 02-03-2008, 12:38 AM
here is the rest... For those of you that don't know.... James paid .. his paypal is eazyjimmy23@yahoo.com not Mike, It was $800 and nothing like Mike stated. James paid to keep his customers afloat, do not go with rising web, this was a takeover....period and we have caught you. We contacted Softlayer to find out, took screenshots of the conversation with softlayer and voila ...liar. Attached Files 6.zip (77.7 KB, 183 views) 7.zip (77.5 KB, 153 views) 8.zip (57.5 KB, 166 views) 9.zip (77.2 KB, 154 views) 10.zip (73.8 KB, 167 views)
Posted by Outlaw Web Master, 02-03-2008, 12:52 AM
Andrew S hmm...I must admit that SL chat doesn't make this look good at all. OWM
Posted by Tsohxert, 02-03-2008, 12:59 AM
first of all rising web works is not a part of trexhost and no they didnt pay the bill i did.. im former vp of trexhost.com name is mike ousley.. i paid 800 from james paypal cause im in charge to take care of it till he gets back alot of people tryed to screw this bussiness over and have succeeded but it will rise again and i do appoligize to all the customers.....
Posted by AHFBWEB, 02-03-2008, 12:59 AM
Maybe his little pals can tell us if "three counts narcotics violation, use/possession of drug paraphernalia." sounds familiar.
Posted by AHFBWEB, 02-03-2008, 01:02 AM
Welcome back
Posted by twenty4web, 02-03-2008, 01:02 AM
and... your customers will be there for you. well.. at least the good ones.
Posted by ataylor, 02-03-2008, 01:03 AM
This really is messy. Would like to see how Mike explains this one. Where did you find that?
Posted by Outlaw Web Master, 02-03-2008, 01:04 AM
suddenly the bomb drops. owm
Posted by TPHosting, 02-03-2008, 01:05 AM
off topic] I love your inserts. My thoughts exactly [/off topic] Last edited by TPHosting; 02-03-2008 at 01:05 AM. Reason: spelling
Posted by Outlaw Web Master, 02-03-2008, 01:11 AM
Regardless of how messy this has become you guys, please remember the most important factor throughout all of this I'm sure you'll agree ARE the clients, who's sites are 1/2 way between here and the moon. Do the honourable thing and get them back up and running, then sort out your differences amicably or legally. Just out of curiousity Mike..how long did he go down for? We don't need to know what for, that would serve no purpose. owm
Posted by twenty4web, 02-03-2008, 01:13 AM
Do I have to investigate you too? Geesh , leave the guy alone..
Posted by Outlaw Web Master, 02-03-2008, 01:16 AM
I agree... Get the services back up and running properly for the customers then do whatever. owm Last edited by Outlaw Web Master; 02-03-2008 at 01:21 AM.
Posted by AHFBWEB, 02-03-2008, 01:16 AM
If you wish. You will find me pretty boring, though I too spent a few days back around 2002, a few hours in '81 and a couple nights as a juvi back in the 70's. edited to add that I did not state the post above as fact but for confirmation, if he so desired.
Posted by Tsohxert, 02-03-2008, 01:17 AM
ok first of all james wasnt busted for drugs. his ex wife invited him over to see there kid then called the cops on him and said he broke in and assaulted her. Of course the law is always for the women so they believed her.... and thats the truth so they got him for breaking and entering and assault.. and yes the mail concern here is the customers and im gonna maek sure they get took care since i now have full control of everything for the first time .... so please let me know email me at mike@trexhost.com
Posted by twenty4web, 02-03-2008, 01:18 AM
lol, well then, what the matter?
Posted by Tsohxert, 02-03-2008, 01:26 AM
im sorry guys but i cant carry on in this convorsation due to violating his privacy. i was in close contact with james via the jail at santa rosa county in fl. he had trial date set for jan.9th and i havent heard frm him since nor have i tlaked with his family.. im assumimg though they sent him to prison... and if they did im guessing he will be there a while im here for each and everyone of you all just please email me the questions or comments for i dont have time to check this site out daily.. i work 2 jobs plus gonna try and get this lined back out for the clients.. Thank you all for your support and god bless.... mike
Posted by twenty4web, 02-03-2008, 01:38 AM
lol, your funny! in a good way
Posted by Outlaw Web Master, 02-03-2008, 02:03 AM
just to put trexhost customers' minds at ease...if you haven't heard from james since the 9th of January...where did you aquire his log in ID to WHT? There's been a lot of badness happening with this thread regarding accusations and suchlike, so to put the conspiracy theorists to bed, maybe the staff could check out the ip used to log in as verification that everything's above board too. Anyway Mike...good luck. owm Last edited by Outlaw Web Master; 02-03-2008 at 02:09 AM.
Posted by TPHosting, 02-03-2008, 02:08 AM
Maybe the forgot email feature? All there emails appear to be on the same server. Just a thought
Posted by Outlaw Web Master, 02-03-2008, 02:11 AM
Then it really needs to be checked out because a few people have had access to that server in the past few days....just a thought. Otherwise the conspiracy theorists will have a field day. Anyone with access to the server could have his ID. Just my 2cents. owm
Posted by twenty4web, 02-03-2008, 02:22 AM
If it were me... I would not use my companies e-mail address.. (any of the servers) just for this case. I would use a external like gmail or hotmail. I would register on these forums with that e-mail and thsi way my staff would not have access to this stuff, like my paypal. Unless of course they visited me in jail and i gave them access.? this is interesting to. Regardless, mike has been caught lying, so once a lier always a lier? he said he paid for it, that it was more then the 800.00 that was obviously a lie. it was also paid with james's paypal which, I doubt James would have given to anybody, unless it was a takeover prevention?
Posted by twenty4web, 02-03-2008, 02:28 AM
but also, the only ones with access to the server and e-mail to get the forum info would be the so called takeover gang.. why would they go against themselves? sounds legit.
Posted by Steve_Arm, 02-03-2008, 02:38 AM
The Mike who posted with Trexhost account is the same Mike that tried the takeover? Or are there 2 Mikes?
Posted by twenty4web, 02-03-2008, 02:44 AM
there are two mikes mike ousley and hobgood or whatever?
Posted by KyleB325, 02-03-2008, 02:45 AM
There are 2 Mikes, Mike Hobgood is the RWW, the former VP of Trexhost. Mike Ousley is the latest VP of Trexhost
Posted by buggsie23, 02-03-2008, 02:46 AM
Wow, wish I had taken you up on that offer now I'm also curious at how many posters now feel rather foolish in their spirited defence of these 'honourable' unpaid guys?
Posted by canadianathlete, 02-03-2008, 02:57 AM
Yes, very clear now. Thanks extrex for the investigation work. I appreciate that.
Posted by Andrew.S, 02-03-2008, 03:14 AM
I have an story to tell. I was just transferring accounts while an ex-trexhost employee came up to me and started saying that Mike Ousley is sabotaging us and I asked how is he sabotaging us?, and the employee responded saying that he is going to stop all transfers and email all the clients and tell them to come back and going to say bad things about Rising Web Works. We waited one freaking month and All of a sudden.. Mike Ousley (the lazy couch potato) stepped in pretending to be all maucho and cancel all the transfers i was doing. Well, In Fact. I got a list of ALL the trexhost employees and Client's because You illegaly theatren us. Michael was going to make the clients happy because no one did nothing with trexhost for an freaking month!, I just got to say tonight was an very bad night, Now we cant do any more RWW transfers because I guess.. we cant get into the servers anymore (at least thats what i hear). I went to try WHM, it didnt work at all nada! So i assumed that was true. I'm very devastated as Michael wished to make the Trexhost clients happy but not mike Ousley just steps in today one month later doing nothing with trexhost, when he knew james was arrested and he didnt do anything with trexhost. he just left trexhost in the dark. i'm very apalled at this. Now the clients that were in line to get their website transferred are going to be yelling at Mike Ousley now because he took the servers offline and i cant do their transfers. I have proof that Mike Ousley did nothing at all with trex-host and that he was just a couch potato, clients never heard of him whatsoever in any way and some clients are very raged right now so pretty soon expect all of them to be here i guess. Last edited by Andrew.S; 02-03-2008 at 03:26 AM.
Posted by KyleB325, 02-03-2008, 03:16 AM
PLease use last names, since there is 2 Mike's in the picture...
Posted by canadianathlete, 02-03-2008, 03:28 AM
ok, but if mike ousley can stop you , then obviously you guys had no right? yes? no? i can still access everything..?
Posted by Andrew.S, 02-03-2008, 03:31 AM
Everyone Okay everyone understand this. Michael hobgood (ceo of RWW) put in $200 and paid it to Mike Ousley(ex-ceo of trexhost) via paypal which then "Mike ousley said he would pay the rest of the bill off his credit card which he didnt.. He stole the money out of james paypal. We have the proof that he requested an password change" So micahel hobgood did not pay with james paypal or anything!
Posted by canadianathlete, 02-03-2008, 03:31 AM
and sorry but.. so far everything Mike Ousley has said is comming true ..no? he said he has control of it now. right? and he has stopped rising web? just not getting it?
Posted by Steve_Arm, 02-03-2008, 03:31 AM
I have one thing to say. Let's gather some money to bail James out so we can know the real story.
Posted by KyleB325, 02-03-2008, 03:32 AM
I need to see transaction screen on paypal to believe this.
Posted by KyleB325, 02-03-2008, 03:33 AM
Idk, Trexhost servers are down again.... I agree...
Posted by Andrew.S, 02-03-2008, 03:35 AM
We still had SL portal access until ousley changed the password and username which he wasnt supposed to.. then he changed the roots passwords.. so thats it.
Posted by KyleB325, 02-03-2008, 03:36 AM
Good, he locked you guys out..so you cant steel more clients.
Posted by Andrew.S, 02-03-2008, 03:38 AM
I agree that we need the money to bail james out. I'm just an tech.. I dont even know the big major story behind this.
Posted by canadianathlete, 02-03-2008, 03:40 AM
yes we know that... have you read the posts too? $200, $1000? you guys are getting really out of shape. which is it, it gets better every time. you are just burying yourselves even further.
Posted by canadianathlete, 02-03-2008, 03:43 AM
they are working for me?
Posted by KyleB325, 02-03-2008, 03:44 AM
hmm, I cant load the webpage..
Posted by Andrew.S, 02-03-2008, 03:45 AM
I'm just the tech that was hired to transfer accounts. I don't even know the full scoop..
Posted by canadianathlete, 02-03-2008, 03:45 AM
agreed! First good thing!
Posted by canadianathlete, 02-03-2008, 03:46 AM
no offense but I am sure you are just going with what mike hobgood is telling you? no?
Posted by Andrew.S, 02-03-2008, 03:49 AM
Actually no, Mike H isnt even on. I'm just talking on AIM to KyleB325, Im sure kyle can verify that im innocent, because i was pulled to transfer accounts an one time task.
Posted by KyleB325, 02-03-2008, 03:50 AM
Yes, Andrew you are innocent. I am really mad at MikeH right now for all of this mess...
Posted by canadianathlete, 02-03-2008, 03:50 AM
I am talking about the whole situation.
Posted by Andrew.S, 02-03-2008, 03:52 AM
Well, Heres one thing i know for sure! Ousley was going to join Rising Web Works and Then he was going to join... just about he just said im out.. i guess that all i heard.
Posted by raine, 02-03-2008, 03:52 AM
Unfortunately, all servers are down for me too - I can't reach the Trexhost servers nor can I find the RWW folk
Posted by canadianathlete, 02-03-2008, 03:54 AM
what server are you guys on?
Posted by Andrew.S, 02-03-2008, 04:09 AM
I dont understand how the servers are up for you because they are down over here and for other people.
Posted by Tsohxert, 02-03-2008, 04:20 AM
Ok guys lets cut this out i have not lied about anything i have posted here. everything i have said is a true fact.. yes i changed james paypal pwd i aquired all pwds from james mother whcih got them from james when she went for a visit. he ask me to watch over things and yes i will be the first to admit i failed the valued customers of trexhost.com for the down time and yes i locked you guys out caus eyou all sent emails to all of trexhost.com customers and told them that you all bought trexhost which was a bunch of crap.... now i am in no way shape form or fashion downing nor saying anything negitive about rww.. but i chanegd all pwds due to the fack they had access to james material to steal stuff... im sorry but i could no long have that .. the servers at trexhost.com is still down due to i am having softlayer.com install security and change all root pwds and so on due to rww transfering clients from trex servers to theres without concent of trexhost........ it would be classified as shoplifting lol ... anyways guys please quit with the negitive stuff here and if anyone needs the proof were i did pay the softlayer bill and all the other lies that these people are telling i am more then happy to show you all....... As far as you andrew i dont know you nor do i want to know you.... you dont have no idea about anything in my background ... And to clear it up yes i was gonna join rww until i went to talk to them about the transfers and andrew insulted my inteligence which isnt very much but im proud of what i got lol but i just cant take a strip james for all he has worked for his whole life.. there has been alot of damage and for now all i can do is put a bandaid on it and hopefully ill get it all patched up soon ......... RWW please move on with your quest to be the best and i wish you the best......... Take care guys AN ALL OF WHT IM VERY SORRY ABOUT THIS THREAD.........
Posted by KyleB325, 02-03-2008, 04:20 AM
Main, trexhost.com site doesnt load.
Posted by Tsohxert, 02-03-2008, 04:26 AM
it wont i got them offline... due to a security breech they will be back online in a few got data center working on them i will provide ticket info form them if you guys would like to see it
Posted by Andrew.S, 02-03-2008, 04:28 AM
Mike, I really wanted to know you, I never insulted you at all. I thought you were cool... Can me and you talk somewhere privately e.g IM?
Posted by Tsohxert, 02-03-2008, 04:35 AM
andrew i have no problems with you but next time before posting ugly and false reports on this site please verify for yourself they are a fact... To be honest i have no regrets and i have no reason to lie or minipulate anyone in any shape , form or fassion...... If you didnt know anything the you really shouldnt be having this convo with me and posting negitive things on here for i am not doing that with RWW thank you and have a nice day
Posted by KyleB325, 02-03-2008, 04:35 AM
Mike, I am a trexhost customer, I need to talk to you.. I've sent u a email. Please contact me on aim or msn.. AIM; TrickTizzle MSN usman_2011@msn.com
Posted by Finer - Jack, 02-03-2008, 06:13 AM
EX-CEO that can't spell? Wow.. more reason to run away from 'both' of these companies.
Posted by KyleB325, 02-03-2008, 06:16 AM
ex ceo? What are you talking about.
Posted by Finer - Jack, 02-03-2008, 06:29 AM
Apologies.. ex-VP.
Posted by KyleB325, 02-03-2008, 06:30 AM
I appreciate it that hes helping because everybody else took advantage of him being gone...
Posted by Finer - Jack, 02-03-2008, 06:32 AM
Define: Helping? Firefox can't find the server at www.trexhost.com. Doesn't appear to be helping customers right now..
Posted by KyleB325, 02-03-2008, 06:34 AM
Helping; Providing support for Mike O. with Tickets... The servers are offline due to a security breech. The datacenter is working on them, they will be up shortly. Regards, Kyle
Posted by neil@ukwebhosting, 02-03-2008, 07:41 AM
well, as the only accounts put up on RW were people who requested the transfer, he hasn't really being stealing accounts especially how no one trexhost before now turned up to put people in the straight. I think people need to consider there options, stay with Trex, move to RW and no more of this BS on here. Me personally I'd take the third option and go with someone totally different.
Posted by Outlaw Web Master, 02-03-2008, 09:52 AM
This whole fiasco reminds me of a film I watched many years ago...."Dumb & Dumber" I think after all the time that's gone by now, option 3 is a good move. owm
Posted by David, 02-03-2008, 10:07 AM
Idiots. Gotta love 'em for endless amusement. Things'll slow down tomorrow when they're all stuck back in History & Economics with Mrs. Peterson in 3rd period!
Posted by bryonhost1, 02-03-2008, 10:18 AM
Hi! Ugh. OWM..."Dumb and Dumber" is in a classification all by itself..in the "Even if they paid me to watch it..I'm not so sure..." category. Interesting. New Mike appears...and Old Mike suddenly has nothing to say. Come on, Mike1! I know you were on super early this morning..nothing to say? >>Oh..Andrew..nice attempt to save face there..after insulting the man. I'd start looking at new career paths if I were you. Oh! Wait! You're a teen..plenty of time for that after you finish high school. Bryon Last edited by bryonhost1; 02-03-2008 at 10:24 AM.
Posted by AHFBWEB, 02-03-2008, 10:57 AM
OK now that we have clarification http://www2.myfloridacounty.com/ccm/...arch?county=57 Yes, the whole list is this guy
Posted by neil@ukwebhosting, 02-03-2008, 11:08 AM
The big question I have (and I think this applys mostly to the American hosters, you don't seem to get it in the UK, except for the big ones) Why, O why do they feel the need to give themselves titles CEO, President, Vice President!!!! Most of those hosting companys are smaller then a local village newsagents, you don't get the owner of the local cig shop calling themseleves the CEO of JOE BLOGGS GOODYSHOP or calling the the senior delivery boy VICE PRESIDENT.
Posted by bryonhost1, 02-03-2008, 11:15 AM
Hi! Most of the time it's really young people that have no business sense. I remember I was quite pleased with the "Owner" title of my first little company growing up..selling along side my dad. It's an ego thing..that can get them in trouble..because it's not legal in many (perhaps all) states. I have redoubled my efforts to call many on the carpet with their "virtual" corporations. It will always be a very big red flag in my book..that screams "jokehost". Bryon
Posted by neil@ukwebhosting, 02-03-2008, 11:25 AM
I am quite open in that I'm a reseller, if a customer asks, I will tell them that I just rent space of a server and sell it one, I might butter it slightly to make it sound more important, but I won't lie. Most of these customers, aslong as the price is right and have no downtime, they don't care!!. I remember the first sites I was doing when I started web freelancing about 3 years ago was all content managed, I thought great, something great sound and useful to the customer that they can update the site themselves. How many use the facilities? I'd say less then 10%, I've now stopped now doing CMS unless directly asked, cause CMS or not I get asked to update them when they want something changing and unless directly requested its harder for me to update the CMS then normal html pages, so why bother. Hopefully soon, I'll be able to upgrade to either managed VPS/Dedicated once I have the skills and customers and instead of freelancing and working full time I can work for myself more fully. In one way I am impressed by these kids cause they probably know more about server admin the I do! But like you call myself President, honestly I'll be embarassed!! my business card just says Web Developer
Posted by IPv6, 02-03-2008, 11:40 AM
fun day. better than the superbowl. Last edited by IPv6; 02-03-2008 at 11:49 AM.
Posted by Brian-de-vie, 02-03-2008, 11:43 AM
Is it unreasonable to think that the trexhost staff would do the running of the business & he(Mike O) financed/administered it ? Oh, you guys were busy with your other biz. ! meanwhile Mike O, will not be on the forums, because he has other jobs ! May I politely suggest that Hosting is a Full Time Business, if you guys (ALL), want to go on running several businesses at once, don't come winching to us if you get into difficulties.
Posted by neil@ukwebhosting, 02-03-2008, 11:44 AM
well, I must say, I like RisingWebs design. I'm sure if this venture now turns sour there will be quite a few offers for his design.
Posted by Brian-de-vie, 02-03-2008, 11:51 AM
James, will you be looking for compensation from softlayer ? Why oh Why did they give acces of trexhost servers to rww ?
Posted by neil@ukwebhosting, 02-03-2008, 11:55 AM
Brian, thats not James. James is currently residing in the equivalent of Majesty's pleasure
Posted by Brian-de-vie, 02-03-2008, 12:04 PM
Custommer moving is not the problem, the problem is that RWW would have to access softlayer/trexhost server 'without authority' to transfer the data. Strictly speaking the customers were not stolen, but the data(anything transfered) was. It's a total breach of security & data protection.
Posted by Brian-de-vie, 02-03-2008, 12:12 PM
Well I'm a Brit. and I'm one of the exception: My business card clearly states: Whats wrong with that ? Sorry US, it's Brit. humour - -
Posted by Brian-de-vie, 02-03-2008, 12:17 PM
yes, sorry Mike O and in the US I gues it's at 'Bush's Pleasure' ! which conjures up some scary thoughts !
Posted by Tsohxert, 02-03-2008, 12:25 PM
well michael h was former trexhost employee he still had his access to softlayer until last night and as far as the customers data came from one of our server admins that gave the info to mr. hobgood. i finally got all access issues fixed and servers will be back online today i got proof of everything you all need so please quit bashing me and trexhost..... Thanks Guys
Posted by neil@ukwebhosting, 02-03-2008, 12:30 PM
Have you paid the staff and admins yet?
Posted by Brian-de-vie, 02-03-2008, 12:34 PM
If things are as they appear to me: I BL**DY WELL HOPE NOTE, maybe sue them instead. ps. Mike O, not bashing you, but much more concerned that softlayer seem to have not executed 'due dilagence'.
Posted by neil@ukwebhosting, 02-03-2008, 12:36 PM
well, a place with no paid staff, server admins, etc seems a bit unsecure, especially as its currently down Are the customers websites up or are they down aswell
Posted by shc-boomer, 02-03-2008, 12:51 PM
Well I know Trexhost is down. My site is down... And my reseller told me nothing...
Posted by gopzap, 02-03-2008, 12:54 PM
Ok, let's get this straight. MikeO has been given full access to TrexHost's servers by James while he is away. MikeO has failed to take care of TrexHost, resulting in this mess. On the 7th of Jan, MikeO has told MikeH that everything will be OK - which it is not. MikeH found out that MikeO has failed to pay for TrexHost's servers meaning that TrexHost's server will be shutdown on the first of February bringing downtime to everyone. MikeH was the only one available to inform all of TrexHost's customers that the servers will be turned off within a week. I do not see what MikeH has done wrong. He has also provided a good alternative as a web-host which would be an advantage to old TrexHost customers since they have access to transfer accounts and the support team consists of former TrexHost employees. Just for the record, I've been with TrexHost for over a year, and I've talked with James several times over MSN. MikeO, no offense, but I don't understand why James has chosen you to take care of TrexHost. You can't spell, you're lazy and you've failed to take care of James' customers resulting in all this mess. At least put your post into paragraphs so we can actually READ it. I don't understand why everyone is siding with MikeO if HE is the one that has caused this. No one is a 'liar' here. The only lie so far is the fact that MikeH has said that HE has payed for the servers to come online - which is infact, not a lie. MikeH has payed $200 to help TrexHost's uptime (which is not ALL of the money), which MikeO did not use wisely. Brian-de-vie: No offense, but you're being a huge embarrassment to British people. You have no idea what's going on, maybe you would if you've read the whole thread, and you're statements make no sense if it's being compared with the rest of this thread. And btw, I'm British. Last edited by gopzap; 02-03-2008 at 12:58 PM.
Posted by AHFBWEB, 02-03-2008, 01:00 PM
or Mike H., or Andrew or why any webmaster would choose any of the involved cast of characters.
Posted by gopzap, 02-03-2008, 01:04 PM
MikeH has informed all TrexHost customers that the servers are going to be shutdown within a week due to the fact that MikeO has failed to take care of TrexHost and pay for the servers. MikeH has done a good thing by informing all TrexHost customers, so that the TrexHost customers do not find themselves having massive downtimes. He has also suggested a good alternative to TrexHost - RisingWebWorks (RWW). RWW's customer support consists of former TrexHost employees that have access to TrexHost's server - meaning they can transfer accounts in an easier way. Without MikeH, all TrexHost customers would find themselves buried in hours and hours of downtime before they have the chance to move to a new web-host.
Posted by bear, 02-03-2008, 01:06 PM
His own company. Very generous indeed.
Posted by Outlaw Web Master, 02-03-2008, 01:07 PM
is "payed" the US way of spelling "paid" ? OWM Last edited by Outlaw Web Master; 02-03-2008 at 01:12 PM.
Posted by AHFBWEB, 02-03-2008, 01:10 PM
1700...$1000, fact: $200 his "truth" was just off a little lol
Posted by gopzap, 02-03-2008, 01:15 PM
RWW does not belong to Micheal H. It belongs to Brent as previously stated in this thread. My spelling isn't perfect, I didn't really read it over to spell-check it, I just type whatever comes into my mind. There's a huge difference between the way I type and the way MikeO types, however. I don't think I need to show you it, it should be logical. On this internet, I don't care about the age of people. But I do care about the mental age of people. PS: Payed seems to be a valid word. http://www.thefreedictionary.com/payed
Posted by Steve_Arm, 02-03-2008, 01:17 PM
You really can't see beyond the finger. MikeH lied big time by writing the cunningly arranged letter to the customers saying that James was missing for a month. So, you have the owner missing and you don't know where he is? All parties evolved knew where he was, they were just planning how to take over the ship. MikeO has paid $800, MikeH has paid $200. MikeH lied - or better yet - in his miserable lust to steal the clients, but a bit short on brains - said he payed $1700, then $1000 to keep the servers up. So, you see here we have a behind the scenes agreement to get the clients or it might look like MikeH tried to wipe out his little act by paying. The question is how does MikeO accepts $200 from MikeH when - if I were in his shoes I would pay a visit to MikeH and kick the s***t out of him. Which James will do when he gets back.
Posted by Outlaw Web Master, 02-03-2008, 01:18 PM
To be honest...apart from customers wanting to reclaim backups of their data, I can see no reason whatsoever for anyone who has indeed a brain wanting to to be hosted with either at this time. Remember what happened to the loyal captain of the titanic...he stood by, got as many folks safe into the lifeboats as he could, nevertheless he went down with the ship. It's like picking which dirty shirt to wear. Maybe through time when the dust settles things will change for the better. But right now, secure & reliable are not the most opportune words that spring to mind. owm
Posted by gopzap, 02-03-2008, 01:21 PM
I feel sorry for James - I doubt any of his customers will remain with TrexHost after all this mess. As for me, I'm rather happy that I ran out of this mess very quickly and moved all of my accounts within a few hours. If I didn't, then my sites would still be down due to the fact that MikeO is 'installing security to the servers' - which seems to be taking more than 24 hours...?
Posted by Outlaw Web Master, 02-03-2008, 01:25 PM
The only way I feel sorry for James is because he apparently got stitched up his broad who was holding the trump card, his kid. I've been there and hell's a better place believe me. Webhosts crash and burn frequently and many also rise again like a pheonix from the ashes....no doubt Trexhost will do the same. owm
Posted by neil@ukwebhosting, 02-03-2008, 01:28 PM
But then James has disappeared, gone to jail for dubious actions not paid his staff, not paid his server fees and left in charge an incompetent. Not much to feel sorry for. As to the mention of Mike not saying in the email about what has happened to James, well in that regard, I'd do the same, its not really anyones public business beyond saying he's not coming back and he's left the company up **** Creek with no paddles.
Posted by Outlaw Web Master, 02-03-2008, 01:31 PM
lol....up poop creek without a paddle. a true Scottish figure of speech. owm
Posted by gopzap, 02-03-2008, 01:33 PM
MikeO has not paid $800 out of his own pocket. The $800 came from James' PayPal account. Also, why would MikeH try to 'steal' TrexHost's customers into a company that is not owned by him...? RWW isn't owned by MikeHit's owned by someone called Brent. MikeH must just be an employee of RWW that is also trying to volunteer to help TrexHost's customers by informing them of the expected downtime.
Posted by bear, 02-03-2008, 01:33 PM
You don't have to own a company to promote it in this manner. The point was he stands to benefit, so it's not as generous as you think.
Posted by gopzap, 02-03-2008, 01:36 PM
If you were MikeH, what would've you done? Don't do anything about it and let MikeO continue to be lazy and not pay for TrexHost's bills which will result in many unhappy uninformed customers?
Posted by neil@ukwebhosting, 02-03-2008, 01:38 PM
Ok, lets say, everything MikeO has said is true. There is something further I don't understand. All servers are down cause they are doing security changes, ok......... Lets be forgiving and believe him. But...... My present reseller provider's site and forum is hosted on its own server in an entirely different DC then its customers. Now when the customers servers are down, its annoying that they are OK, but its understandable and professional. Trexhost, ok, they are hosted with there customers in the same DC, but if I was Mike0, I would have set up another domain elsewhere (with a forum) and whilst all this was going on would have redirected Trexhost there and allayed customers fears.
Posted by gopzap, 02-03-2008, 01:43 PM
websprite, has it occured to you that your reseller provider may have more than one server to balance out the load between customers? TrexHost has around 6 servers, let's say their homepage is on server 1 and server 2 is down. Then server 2 would be the only server that is down. Also, server 1 hosts TrexHost's main homepage AND some of their clients' websites. Also, these 'security updates' seem to be taking WAY too long. More than 15 hours, depending on when he announced that the servers were in for an update. Now, from my understanding, 15 hours of downtime is ALOT, and it can result in you losing some clients. TrexHost.com is STILL offline. Last edited by gopzap; 02-03-2008 at 01:46 PM.
Posted by KyleB325, 02-03-2008, 01:46 PM
Trexhost does have around 6 servers... -Trexhost.com is on NS3 and NS4. Trexhost server, NS11 is now online. The rest will be fully operational sometime today.
Posted by neil@ukwebhosting, 02-03-2008, 01:46 PM
Yes, my present Reseller has about a 60 servers. But its not hard to buy a cheap host space somewhere, and temporarly swap the nameservers over to it and set up a forum. There will be a lot of customers who don't come here wondering what the hell is going on.
Posted by gopzap, 02-03-2008, 01:49 PM
TrexHost.com is on NS3 & NS4? I used to be hosted on the same server as TrexHost.com (which I have been told), which was NS1 & NS2. Whenever my website is down, TrexHost.com is always down. http://ns11.trexhost.com/ is still down for me... Maybe your sites are cached? ... Or maybe ns11.trexhost.com (the hostname) is down if TrexHost.com is down depending on how they've set it up?
Posted by KyleB325, 02-03-2008, 02:01 PM
No, they may have changed it, but or the last year its been on NS3 and NS4
Posted by KyleB325, 02-03-2008, 02:04 PM
Yes, NS11.TREXHOST.COM is down because the main trexhost.com website is down. This is the NS11 IP; http://74.86.160.154/ EDIT: NS3 SERVER IS BEING REBUILDED. Last edited by KyleB325; 02-03-2008 at 02:08 PM.
Posted by twenty4web, 02-03-2008, 02:17 PM
You have missed the whole point. First of all ... regardless of who james is or his friends, spelling etc. they managed to build trexhost.com and trexhost has been a great host. Yes , they now have all of this crap going on but i would rather host from a kid who can't spell but can keep a business going rather then some other guy who knows how to spell but can't! I have been in business for over thirty years. I know several successful business men who appear to have no IQ what so ever and several people whom I would think should be on millionaire. they suck! Stop picking on them, the facts are there. Mike H Lied, he was the one caught so far , so he... is to blame no one else. Has Mike O been caught in a lie? Nope... not at all. Stop knocking James... he's not here to defend himself. and I am sure when he comes back you will be kissing his *** to be on his servers again. come on....
Posted by neil@ukwebhosting, 02-03-2008, 02:22 PM
I don't theres any right or wrong in this situation. But Never being on his servers, and if theres one thing I am particular off in this world I never will be!! But there is one thing I must say about this Trexhost saga. It has certainly enabled me to get my post count to a more useful level, and on that I am most grateful :-)
Posted by gopzap, 02-03-2008, 02:29 PM
extrex, I'm 100% on James' side. I'm not on MikeO's side. I am also not trying to defend MikeH. Ok, let's forget about all of this 'lieing' for a moment. It's not a big deal that MikeH has lied about who payed for the servers at this moment in time, we can discuss that later. MikeO has FAILED to take care of James' clients. That is the problem. James has given MikeO all of his passwords so that he can take care of TrexHost. But so far, MikeO has not taken care of TrexHost - he's been lazy and failed to pay the $800 from James' PayPal account resulting in hours and hours of downtime. TrexHost.com is down at this point due to the fact that he is 'upgrading security' which seems to be taking over 15 hours - does MikeO know how to manage a server or not? If MikeO quit being lazy and paid for the server before they were taken down, then none of this mess would've happened - this is why I blame MikeO for everything. Let me repeat it: If MikeO paid the money for the servers a bit earlier then none of this would've happened. extrex: May I ask who you are? At least what your position at TrexHost was or who your name is. And no, I will not be kissing his *** to be back on his servers after all of this mess. (And I doubt anyone else would be, unfortunately.) I'm rather happy with my new host right now. Last edited by gopzap; 02-03-2008 at 02:32 PM.
Posted by webster13045, 02-03-2008, 02:34 PM
gopzap mike o just got control of the servers last night it is not like he has had control this whole time he is securing the servers and getting them back online as we speak i would think everyone would be thankful that he is getting things sorted as for all the accusing we should worry about getting everyone back online then let them get lawyers and handle it in court
Posted by KyleB325, 02-03-2008, 02:34 PM
Thank you! If you don't know stay quite. PLeasse. Pisses me off more than enything else. NS11 IS ONLINE NS3 IS BEING REBUILDED. -IF YOU knew anything about the server,- ALL PASSWORDS ARE BEING CHANGED SO MIKE HOBGOOD CANNOT GET BACK IN.
Posted by KyleB325, 02-03-2008, 02:36 PM
Mike O, and I have been up allnight re-configurating the servers and such, They will be online soon.
Posted by bryonhost1, 02-03-2008, 02:42 PM
Hi! Intersting. Am I the only one that noticed the "Trexhost" account has been disabled? Hmmm.? Bryon
Posted by gopzap, 02-03-2008, 02:42 PM
No, MikeO is pissing me off 'more than anything else'. KyleB325, I am not going to stay quite because I do 'know' that the passwords have been changed. I've been reading this thread from start to end. Quit being ignorant. I'm not a supporter of MikeH, I'm just simply pissed of at MikeO - he was given the responsibility of taking care of TrexHost since Jan 07. But let me ask you this question: Do you really think he has taken good responsibility of TrexHost? After, what, failing to sort out TrexHost's bills (yes, the money was in James' paypal account, which he had access to as has been proven) which resulted in this downtime and MikeH informing the customers that they need to move, and fast.
Posted by twenty4web, 02-03-2008, 02:44 PM
Anyways......... Mike O had only recently obtained James Paypal information and Server Information from James sister or mother who had a recent visit. That means, they all knew that something was going to happen. But it sounds like Mike H and gang did it to benefit, and while Mike O hasn't done anything so far (not sure what he''s supposed to do, ecpecially since all the staff were leaving) is do what i would do ... change the passwords, shut it down .. get things straightened out. Who cares what my name is.. ?? call me Grandma? It doesn't matter, does it? My point about kissing james *** to be on the server is that alot of people are bashing him when in fact , if the domestic thing didn't happen, would be saying how great trexhost is, thats all. It's a mess, yes, it's a downfall yes.. I am sure james will be fully back on hes feet eventually. I am currently elsewhere for hosting, my experience tells me to always BACKUP you and your clients data. For all these people complaining about their data? Too bad! it's your own fault especially in the hosting world. lamens terms.... if you had lost the keys to your car, and the dealership only gave you one set. would you get mad at the car dealership for not giving you a second set? or would you be mad at yourself for knowing you didn't have that extra set and not making one yourself while you could still drive to the hardware store and have it done.
Posted by twenty4web, 02-03-2008, 02:54 PM
Just please people... stop bashing James. I am sure he will make it up any way he can, he's that kind of guy. Remember one thing before you judge. Anger comes from your heart. people who don't get angry simply choose to let their feelings or "heart" go. People with "big" hearts can sometimes be angry because they refuse to let go their feelings. Big Heart= pain & anger No Heart= cold & calm James has a HUGE heart, for most of us, we can balance it out, I am sure with James it's rather difficult.
Posted by Brian-de-vie, 02-03-2008, 02:57 PM
You gotta be kidding, what do the Scottish know about paying
Posted by Brian-de-vie, 02-03-2008, 03:04 PM
I think most people were p*ssed off with the 'Un Reachable' bit, James has not been unreachable, just very difficult to reach. - maybe it's just another 'Liamism' to some, to me it makes Everything else Not fit into place.
Posted by Brian-de-vie, 02-03-2008, 03:08 PM
So doing 2(or more) jobs & 'insider trading' - no conflict of interests there then.
Posted by eclouds, 02-03-2008, 03:11 PM
What a way to start the day.
Posted by Brian-de-vie, 02-03-2008, 03:15 PM
Well he could maybe have been commited to Trexhost, rather than setting up (under Brent because of legal age issues ?) in compitition. Maybe - even without James or Mike O, he could have got some new customers for Trexhost, aiding cashflow, and keeping it running. If he had done that, maybe James would have let Mike O & Mike H takeover Trexhost. But that bridge was burnt the moment Mike H set up in compitition.
Posted by twenty4web, 02-03-2008, 03:16 PM
Just to give you my official TrexHost title just incase you think I am James brother or aunt or? "CUSTOMER"
Posted by neil@ukwebhosting, 02-03-2008, 03:18 PM
Well I have my fulltime job and my Freelance work. I don't have much loyalty to my fulltime job due them treating people badly and telling lies over and over again, if I could set myself up by taking there customers myself I would do, loyalty in my opinion is earned and not freely given.
Posted by twenty4web, 02-03-2008, 03:18 PM
Only James will know, but I am sure you are right.
Posted by twenty4web, 02-03-2008, 03:20 PM
Thats why I think "laws" were implemented . People who work for companies that don't agree about their practices but do it anyway , and then .. would just stab them in the back.
Posted by sirius, 02-03-2008, 03:25 PM
Link doesnt produce any results.... Sirius
Posted by Brian-de-vie, 02-03-2008, 03:27 PM
Not sure how long you've been in the loop on this, but it actually started when Mike H e-maild ALL Trexhosts customers 'inviting' ! them' to transfer to RWW. This was while Trexhost's servers were up, and while Mike H(onest), was working for BOTH Trexhost & RWW [under various changing titles]. That is simply deplorable business. Add to that the fact that Softlayer were apparently, allowing access to the Trexhost server at what appears to be a level that Mike H should never have been allowed, presumably at that time under his own authorisation ! Mike O may or may not be a Lazy so & so, but he seems to be more honest & open.
Posted by neil@ukwebhosting, 02-03-2008, 03:28 PM
Loyalty is earned, you lose loyalty to a company the lies time and time again and goes back on what it says. Be loyal to me and I will be loyal back, you moan about kids on here, but by your reply above it doesn't seem you have much work experience, companies are not loyal, they will use and when they don't need you anymore they will kick you out. its very easy to sit on the sideline and say when its not happened to you, and not be in the same situation, take Mike should he care about James when he is failing to pay him for his services, he's being shafted in that regard, how do we know that MikO was willing to back date his pay especially as he seemed slack in paying for the actual server upkeep.
Posted by neil@ukwebhosting, 02-03-2008, 03:30 PM
put Trexhost owners name into the name search fields.
Posted by twenty4web, 02-03-2008, 03:30 PM
it's a link to a search http://www2.myfloridacounty.com/ccm/?county=57 then search name.
Posted by Nick H, 02-03-2008, 03:31 PM
I just did a search...looks like James has a rather large criminal record A few Failure to pay tolls... 2 counts of Battery Domestic Violence... Violation of an order of protection... Burglary... Stalking... No wonder he hasn't been around
Posted by gopzap, 02-03-2008, 03:32 PM
I've been in this loop since the start. I believe MikeH has had authorized access to TrexHost's servers given by James when he used to work for TrexHost. I'm not sure but I think the reason why MikeH still has access to TrexHost's servers is probably because he still provides support.
Posted by twenty4web, 02-03-2008, 03:38 PM
ok... First of all.. even if Mike H was not getting payed from James then LEAVE and take him to court. Plain and simple, nothing less, nothing more. You don't STEAL cutomers, even when you pretend you are helping them, because... it's not helping them at all. Sounds like you really don't know what business is? it's all the same and "yes" Business is Business. You work, you get paid, you go home They pay you to lie, to be loyal, to shove your head in someones ***, whatever it is ..YOU agreed to do it and Yoiu agreed to be loyal about it. This isn;t medieval times and your band of brothers, that is true Business. Thats why they say, never mix business with pleasure. Just because you the employee end up getting the shaft in the end , doesn't mean you didn't expect that when you started. I fully understand the way "business works" I am fairly sure you have alot to learn. it is sad but.. thats the way it is, and you won't change it
Posted by neil@ukwebhosting, 02-03-2008, 03:43 PM
Sorry, thats laughable what you've just posted, you have to treat people with respect to get the most out of them., if not then don't expect loyalty back, even thou employees do even when shafted time and again, don't give me the its what you signed up for crap, thats just plain BS.
Posted by twenty4web, 02-03-2008, 03:43 PM
and? If my wife ever tried to take my children from me in a bad way or lie or ? Who knows what I might do ... Kids are powerful playing cards and woman love to use them. I might even run through a toll... you don't know the circumstances. and police or more crooked the people are, they love their quota's it's easy to have charges add up, you can get one for spitting on the side walk to riding your bike. It's politics and money. I am not saying nothing didn't happen, I am just saying. Those are not bad.. and who knows the circumstances? so lets leave it out of things?
Posted by KyleB325, 02-03-2008, 03:45 PM
Please link me, Ive searched all over, theres no sign of him
Posted by twenty4web, 02-03-2008, 03:47 PM
did you not know that before you started? Did you think when you start a company they should follow YOUR business practices? what you think is lying and cheating may be different in someone elses eyes. You can't expect to work for a company which they have worked long hard hours to create and then cry because they have lied to a customer. You are sad... and have never ran a company. Customers are pains in the ***... they complain , they cry and they always want something for nothing. get some experience before you comment on that one. Yes , it's different form what "mommy" and "daddy" told you
Posted by Andrew.S, 02-03-2008, 03:47 PM
Hmm, Why is trexhost account disabled?
Posted by neil@ukwebhosting, 02-03-2008, 03:48 PM
so.... he's just unlucky? Wonder how mines times he's being struck by lightening......
Posted by neil@ukwebhosting, 02-03-2008, 03:51 PM
Woooowww hhhooo, I am onabout working as a EMPLOYEEE and being stabbed in the back, by lies and going back on things they have said, and so no, I still work very hard, cause that is personnel respect, but I don't have much loyalty. Run a business? I have worked freelance for over 3 years, and I guarantee you I have NEVER ONCE LIED TO A CUSTOMER, no matter how much of a pain they are.
Posted by twenty4web, 02-03-2008, 03:52 PM
I think its called circumstance. not everyone lives your life your way websprite. why do you think they do?
Posted by twenty4web, 02-03-2008, 03:55 PM
are you even reading anything or just getting excited? Freelancing? thats a side job, not a business. I am done, I don't want you to get more excited.
Posted by twenty4web, 02-03-2008, 03:58 PM
just a second note, alot of customers won't listen to the truth and is more comforting for them to hear a lie. honesty is always good business practice. unfortunately it depends on what that business is. don't base things on your 3 years of freelancing i have worked 30 years in various businesses, I base it on facts. thats all, don't get mad. I am just trying to give you a bit of insight.
Posted by neil@ukwebhosting, 02-03-2008, 03:59 PM
A side job? what? I freelanced fulltime a while ago and I was earning more then I am now with a fulltime job and freelance work. . Last edited by neil@ukwebhosting; 02-03-2008 at 04:03 PM.
Posted by Brian-de-vie, 02-03-2008, 04:00 PM
I have to comment on this lying in business cr*p that being talked about. Don't Lie in Business., Easy isn't it, hence my sigy: - No More Liam Excuses - the Brits understand. Lying in business is commercial suicide. Lying in life just sucks.
Posted by twenty4web, 02-03-2008, 04:01 PM
I am sure the staff disabled it to disable the signature as james name was showing? I don't think it is the whole account?
Posted by neil@ukwebhosting, 02-03-2008, 04:02 PM
And I was basing loyalty on being an employee at my present company. Who have lied about my things and seeing them being pretty ****** with past employees. I have already being offered on position out of the company but decided not to take it as it was not a direction I wanted to go back in even thou the money was better. Loyalty is earned like respect, if your employer lies to you again and again how can you have respect or loyalty to them when they don't return it?
Posted by Andrew.S, 02-03-2008, 04:04 PM
No, the whole trexhost account on WHT is disabled like blocked.
Posted by twenty4web, 02-03-2008, 04:05 PM
I wish you could read, simply... it's not hard I think it was made very clear that lying is NOT good business practice. Most businesses do it or sometime need to because of particular LAWs or POLICIES. it depends on the business, if you think thats not true , you live in a make believe world. Thats all that was said, if thats CRAP then i guess you live in a Shlt can. look up the word freelance... please.
Posted by KyleB325, 02-03-2008, 04:05 PM
They blocked it because Ousley was using it, and it was James' account.
Posted by twenty4web, 02-03-2008, 04:07 PM
maybe the staff can clarify? or maybe disabled because its not james using it? but rather mikeO?
Posted by bear, 02-03-2008, 04:08 PM
We can't discuss moderator actions publicly.
Posted by KyleB325, 02-03-2008, 04:08 PM
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Posted by twenty4web, 02-03-2008, 04:09 PM
I missed that but was thinking the same.
Posted by steven99, 02-03-2008, 04:12 PM
Um, okay... So you're saying employees should lie and cheat customers at will?
Posted by neil@ukwebhosting, 02-03-2008, 04:14 PM
aswell as employers lie and cheat its staff?
Posted by gopzap, 02-03-2008, 04:14 PM
I've just looked at James' legal cases and it's alot... And it's the correct James, I compared the results with his address. Some phases include prosecution.
Posted by KyleB325, 02-03-2008, 04:15 PM
link please
Posted by twenty4web, 02-03-2008, 04:18 PM
No, but they do, alot of employees lie for their employees, some know they are , others don't. But they do it for a paycheck. does it make them just as bad? yes.. but it the world we live in and you would starve. yes, employees lie about their qualifications, when they are sick etc. statistically over 70% of applicants lie on their resume. you guys mean lie? right? or did you have a different version? maybe ..your version?
Posted by gopzap, 02-03-2008, 04:20 PM
I will post the results of my investigation here. First, I done a whois on BoredKid.com, which is one of James' sites. TrexHost.com does not inclue James' details since he's using a whois proxy. - http://whois.sc/BoredKid.com/ Next, we go to this website: http://www2.myfloridacounty.com/ccm/...arch?county=57 Last Name: Perrotta First Name: James Click the Search button. Look down where it says Address = 'NAVARRE FL 32566'. (Which is the postal code used on his Whois). His full name is 'PERROTTA JAMES V'. Notice the 'V'. Now, look at the other results which match 'V' or 'Victor' as his name. The address on all of these names is pretty close to his Whois' address. I will edit this post if nessecary. Please do not think that I'm against James. I think James is a great person and I do feel sorry for him.
Posted by neil@ukwebhosting, 02-03-2008, 04:21 PM
so.. lets get this right, as a "Business" person, you think it is okay to lie to and cheat your staff? But you also expect loyalty from them?
Posted by Andrew.S, 02-03-2008, 04:24 PM
Here is James Court actions list http://www2.myfloridacounty.com/ccm/...de01ed4b4be4b8 His arraignment is set for 2/19/08 at 1:30 PM
Posted by gopzap, 02-03-2008, 04:25 PM
Your link does not work, the session would've expired on other people's computers. What is this arrangement you speak of?
Posted by twenty4web, 02-03-2008, 04:26 PM
Nope, thats not what "I" expect at all. do most businesses? "yes, absolutely" they expect that when they pay you, you are loyal. I do agree with you that loyalty is earned, that i never argued. but, I think for you to know that they are lying to you and cheating you , for you to stay and do it anyway is just as bad. By you staying it's sort of like saying, ok.. i know you are lying, but you pay me , so i will stay. That is some form of loyalty no? you stay .. because you get paid... ?? it is layal to your family or paycheck or whatever, but it is still loyalty
Posted by Andrew.S, 02-03-2008, 04:26 PM
His BOND SET AT 2500.00 CASH/PRO TO PTR W/ GPS so lets get cash and bail him out
Posted by David, 02-03-2008, 04:28 PM
Or not. He's a repeat offender who just had the book tossed at him, he's finished. I suspect he's gone for a few years at the very least.
Posted by Andrew.S, 02-03-2008, 04:30 PM
Never mind they took bond off. Look at the list of actions taken. 01/29/2008 ARREST SEQ: 1 01/30/2008 SURETY BOND SET 2500.00 01/30/2008 BOND SET AT 2500.00 CASH/PRO TO PTR W/ GPS 01/30/2008 ASSESSED ICDTF COUNTY 40.00 DUE 02/06/2008 01/31/2008 CASE FILED WITH CLERK 01/31/2008 MISD ARRAIGNMENT SET FOR 02/19/2008 AT 01:30 IN 01/31/2008 CO1/201, JDG: ROSS L BILBREY 01/31/2008 ARREST REPORT WITHOUT BOND 02/01/2008 JUDGE ROSS L BILBREY ASSIGNED 02/01/2008 PROSECUTOR: EDWARDS JULIE M ASSIGNED 02/01/2008 DEFENSE ATTY: ROCKLEIN ROSE ASSIGNED 02/01/2008 FILED IN MAR/RLB RO
Posted by steven99, 02-03-2008, 04:30 PM
http://www.answers.com/lie&r=67 That's the lie we're talking about. If it's the company's business line to lie to customers about stuff, then fine. I've worked for some companies that lied to customers regularly, though 95% of the time I tried not to follow that. If, however, the business doesn't lie to customers, which is bad in my opinion, then employees shouldn't either. Lying to your employer is a different matter entirely as that wont affect the business outward appearance. It will, however, affect your relationship with the business it self.
Posted by gopzap, 02-03-2008, 04:31 PM
Did you guys do what I said in my investigation post?
Posted by webster13045, 02-03-2008, 04:33 PM
woman are evil and they know they can get away with almost anything
Posted by twenty4web, 02-03-2008, 04:36 PM
lol, he owes me money
Posted by KyleB325, 02-03-2008, 04:36 PM
No, James had a $104,500 bail...
Posted by gopzap, 02-03-2008, 04:37 PM
So he's in court because of you...?
Posted by AHFBWEB, 02-03-2008, 04:37 PM
Don't know if you have figured it out or not as I am still catching up on the thread...Just go to new search type his name and the DOB of 9/23/83
Posted by steven99, 02-03-2008, 04:38 PM
Yes, but their not all the right James. For example 572008TR001639XXXXXX [08001639TR]: 01/24/2008 CITATION FILED: FINE AMOUNT ASSESSED $163.50. RS 01/24/2008 COMPLIANCE DATE CHANGED FROM 11/24/2007 TO 03/03/2008. RS 01/24/2008 FINE/COST AMOUNT CHANGED FROM $163.50 TO $167.00. RS Notice anything wrong with that? That one guy likes to run the toll a lot.
Posted by twenty4web, 02-03-2008, 04:38 PM
sorry, not true. if you lyed about your qualifications it can greatly affect the company you work for. especially if it was a management or simular postion that gave you a bit of control. anyways .. I am off of this topic as we are talking about trex? no?
Posted by gopzap, 02-03-2008, 04:38 PM
Go back 2 pages and read my investigation post... It provides info about his address, name etc. How did you find his DOB btw?
Posted by webster13045, 02-03-2008, 04:39 PM
i been throught he same thing myself ( not everyone is perfect) on his next court date he may get released from jail pending another court date anyway who are we to judge he personal life?
Posted by Andrew.S, 02-03-2008, 04:39 PM
Yeah i saw that multiple times.
Posted by KyleB325, 02-03-2008, 04:39 PM
There are so many tolls in Florida, I'd do the same...
Posted by twenty4web, 02-03-2008, 04:40 PM
not suprised
Posted by gopzap, 02-03-2008, 04:40 PM
Maybe, but it's pretty unlikely that multiple James with exactly the same first name, middle name and last name live in the same area.
Posted by neil@ukwebhosting, 02-03-2008, 04:43 PM
I agree with you on this post. I like the people who work there, even thou the owners screwed me. But I am looking for other opportunitys, just ones in the direction that I want to go in. And yes, I agree, there is ways of handling these things, and some people are better then others, I got screwed over, but by staying put cause they were saying they'll get it sorted enabled them to box me in, and by the end the leverage you would have had in the beginning is gone. Does it happen alot? Every company I've worked in, its the way of the world, doubt I'll ever get used to it thou.
Posted by bryonhost1, 02-03-2008, 04:45 PM
Hi! Hmm..let's see: http://www2.myfloridacounty.com/ccm/...ba5ff0d283fda2 >>>That worked! I think most people don't understand how to use it. You have to click on what you want..even though it doesn't look like a link. Bryon
Posted by gopzap, 02-03-2008, 04:49 PM
It says: No data found, try again. As I said, that link is expired on every computer apart from yours.
Posted by twenty4web, 02-03-2008, 04:51 PM
lol, not that I know of? hmmm.. maybe I should ask my lawers. Tolls, there was a toll? oops... Yeah, it sucks, I wish it was pure business practice to be honest, companies treat employees like dirt and we are stuck.. sad but true. it's all a big mess. customers expect lying, they know when they go to purchase a car that it's not really the lowest price, but they buy the car anyway. I myself try to be a 100% true businessman. I say "try" because most of my suppliers, or even customers aren't and its sad. in the end , I think maybe its more that good will come or that no one is being ripped off. I think that is important, but i still think society is stuck with lying. Maybe we should change the meaning? lol
Posted by twenty4web, 02-03-2008, 04:54 PM
yes, but you need to enter in the name etc.
Posted by steven99, 02-03-2008, 04:55 PM
Ahh, okay. So, if there was 100 shirts outside a shirt shop, it would be okay to take one because there was so many? Nice defense, try it at the trial. Yes, my example is a bit different, both both are still crimes and are enforced.
Posted by gopzap, 02-03-2008, 04:56 PM
James Perrotta
Posted by webster13045, 02-03-2008, 05:01 PM
i could care less who gets mad but how would you feel if your personal info was being posted here? james personal life and info is none of our business what happened happen online not off line in personal
Posted by twenty4web, 02-03-2008, 05:02 PM
lol, if the shirts were owned by the government...maybe. How would they know since they are on vacation with my tax dollars? and so many of them too! and to clarify.. I pay roughly 40-50 thousand a year in taxes. lol, lets not start a topic on what the government does with our money and why they even have tolls. Yes, not paying for something you know is there is not good. but why are we even talking about that? it has nothing to do with it? trexhost was run for two years.. there is only a 975 balance or so softlayer says...
Posted by twenty4web, 02-03-2008, 05:06 PM
even still, it's none of our business, period. If you think it shows character, it doesn't a person who commited murder to protect himself doesn't mean he is a bad person a person who commited murder to go out with the dead guys girfriend does. it's all circumstance , and we do not know the whole story. I wish the mods or admins would prevent the personal info here.
Posted by steven99, 02-03-2008, 05:07 PM
No where not. Either get your own company or find a company that doesn't do that. Hard to find, but I'm there now. Agreed, but lying to a customer and that customer actually finding out you lied are two different things, hence why not lying is better if you can, but alas it's human nature to lie, though most try to keep it to white lies. Anyhow, doesn't anyone know if Trexhost is going to continue on? I mean, if James is going upstate or whatever, then who is going to take over -- for real at least?
Posted by Brian-de-vie, 02-03-2008, 05:08 PM
100% agree with that. But p*ssed off that people were saying hes unreachable, that was a lie that's backfired, as they always do. He's just very difficult to reach 'cos he's in jail. Also, of course Camalot is the fantasey world I live in.
Posted by bryonhost1, 02-03-2008, 05:11 PM
Hi! Oh! Gotca. Ok.. 1. Go to: http://www2.myfloridacounty.com/ccm/...arch?county=57 Type: Last Name: Perrotta First name: James 2. Click on "Search" 3. Click "View Selection" 4. Scroll down to the seventh one..the most current: 1/31/2008 Misdemeanor Case Open 5. Click on the docket number to the left Done..there ya go. Bryon
Posted by raine, 02-03-2008, 05:11 PM
Wow... didn't think this thread would turn into such drama. Would either of you Mikes or Stephen let me know what's up with my data? I've been trying to contact Trexhost and RWW - I've bought hosting packages at both places and need my data.
Posted by twenty4web, 02-03-2008, 05:13 PM
agreed.... lol, anyways....
Posted by twenty4web, 02-03-2008, 05:15 PM
what server are you on?
Posted by gopzap, 02-03-2008, 05:16 PM
Half of the TrexHost servers are online ... Apparently Mike Outsley has taken the servers offline to 'upgrade security'.
Posted by steven99, 02-03-2008, 05:16 PM
Bryon, doesn't that mean he was arrested 1/29/2008?: So, where has he been since Jan. 7 as mentioned earlier that he "disappeared".
Posted by Outlaw Web Master, 02-03-2008, 05:17 PM
Like a few others in this thread, James's only crime was getting caught. owm
Posted by twenty4web, 02-03-2008, 05:20 PM
........................................
Posted by KyleB325, 02-03-2008, 05:28 PM
NS3 is being rebuilded, When Hobgood got in there, they ****ed up the HDD's
Posted by Andrew.S, 02-03-2008, 05:48 PM
who's they?
Posted by KyleB325, 02-03-2008, 05:49 PM
According to Ousley- Hobgood and his team...
Posted by steven99, 02-03-2008, 05:52 PM
I wasn't going to post, as really I'm not connected with this topic besides wanting to try and help... but first it was a security install and now it's because Mike and his team messed up the HDDs? How exactly did they do so? That's sabotage and I'd hope MikeO has proof?
Posted by Andrew.S, 02-03-2008, 05:53 PM
Team? I wasnt included at all.
Posted by KyleB325, 02-03-2008, 05:56 PM
Let me clarify. All the servers had security changes- password changes. NS3 is the only server that is screwed up...All other servers are online
Posted by David, 02-03-2008, 06:01 PM
With geniuses like you folks at the helm, the best thing for the servers is if you could forget their passes
Posted by twenty4web, 02-03-2008, 06:01 PM
yes, it was stated Mike H only
Posted by steven99, 02-03-2008, 06:09 PM
Okay, but how was it messed up by MikeH? Sorry if missed a post.
Posted by Frankc, 02-03-2008, 06:30 PM
If this is true, why can't I have access to any of my domains hosted on NS9 ?
Posted by ataylor, 02-03-2008, 06:34 PM
Thats probably the only true statement in this thread
Posted by steven99, 02-03-2008, 06:36 PM
Looks like FTP is not running on that server. Apache, and your sites, should be though as I'm getting the usual CPanel page when going to http://ns9.trexhost.com/
Posted by AHFBWEB, 02-03-2008, 07:12 PM
Include the birthdate of 9/23/83 in step 1 and let the computer do the sorting. It goes back to november p.s. If you do not like public records posted, fight it out with Santa Rosa County.
Posted by neil@ukwebhosting, 02-03-2008, 08:09 PM
ok......... Look, but if you are on Trekhost, etc The best thing you can do is go get the hell out of there as soon as it is up, Innohost, Reselllerzoom, Hostgater, jaguarPC, whoever just go. You need piece of mind, you can't be doing with this type of amateur behaviour. Get your data and leave
Posted by Brian-de-vie, 02-03-2008, 10:23 PM
or if for some reason, your in negative mode; Half of the TrexHost servers are OFF Line ! All a matter of perspective.
Posted by JohnJ, 02-03-2008, 10:28 PM
I heard that James was sent to jail for hacking into some government thing. I'm not sure how true that part is though.
Posted by twenty4web, 02-03-2008, 10:31 PM
Why not read the posts first? guess its easier?
Posted by raine, 02-03-2008, 10:35 PM
I'm on NS7 - can't reach my sites.
Posted by Brian-de-vie, 02-03-2008, 10:51 PM
Did you not know: Rulers of the World don't need to do that ! - -
Posted by JohnJ, 02-03-2008, 11:07 PM
That's exactly right. Someone find the replies I'm supposed to be looking at and quote them!
Posted by AHFBWEB, 02-03-2008, 11:29 PM
Please post a link to your sources. By the way, your source is a fool.
Posted by Brian-de-vie, 02-03-2008, 11:43 PM
Agree. There's more than enough missinformation, without adding rumours !
Posted by KyleB325, 02-03-2008, 11:52 PM
Because NS3 is down, If NS3 is down, all sites are down. ie NS11.Trexhost.com - There is no trexhost becuase ns3 isnt on. However the actuall ns11 server is online Because NS3 is down, If NS3 is down, all sites are down. ie NS11.Trexhost.com - There is no trexhost becuase ns3 isnt on. However the actuall ns11 server is online No, as said above, His ex wife invited him over to visit his kid, and while he was there she called the cops on him and said he broke in and assult. We need $104,500 to bail James out, otherwise he is looking at about 2year in prison... Because NS3 is down, If NS3 is down, all sites are down. ie NS11.Trexhost.com - There is no trexhost becuase ns3 isnt on. However the actuall ns11 server is online
Posted by bqinternet, 02-04-2008, 01:09 AM
Oooh, a conspiracy theory! So you're saying that James isn't really in jail awaiting trial for a domestic dispute, but rather that the government fudged the records so that they can take him to a secret overseas facility for questioning? So how do we know that MikeO is really MikeO, and not a government-sponsored imposter? Last edited by bqinternet; 02-04-2008 at 01:12 AM.
Posted by TPHosting, 02-04-2008, 01:10 AM
I have hesitated to give my theory but I think he was abducted by aliens.
Posted by Andrew.S, 02-04-2008, 01:25 AM
Actually, By my looking. http://ns3.trexhost.com opens http://ns5.trexhost.com opens http://ns9.trexhost.com opens http://ns11.trexhost.com opens Only server that doesnt open is ns7.trexhost.com
Posted by Outlaw Web Master, 02-04-2008, 02:05 AM
I'd be very surprised if trex recover from this. owm
Posted by steven99, 02-04-2008, 02:23 AM
trexhost.com wont load simply because the DNS records for it are gone. Actually, it seems like all DNS record are gone even though the servers are up. Kyle, is that the issue then, all DNS records have been messed up? EDIT: Those hostname addresses load because they are in the root DNS servers. Last edited by steven99; 02-04-2008 at 02:29 AM.
Posted by BluewaveHosted, 02-04-2008, 05:01 AM
ns3.trexhost.com shows as being online, cpanel port 2082 also pops-up a login window.
Posted by steven99, 02-04-2008, 05:11 AM
Right, the server it self is up but the DNS records it held are probably hosed, effectively causing all the sites on it to be down.
Posted by BluewaveHosted, 02-04-2008, 05:14 AM
Hmmm, strange:
Posted by neil@ukwebhosting, 02-04-2008, 07:00 AM
wont the DNS records be held on back-ups?
Posted by BluewaveHosted, 02-04-2008, 08:57 AM
extrex are you a current staff member of trexhost.com? is trex going to be resurrected?
Posted by IPv6, 02-04-2008, 09:06 AM
he customer
Posted by BluewaveHosted, 02-04-2008, 09:27 AM
Procyon see my PM
Posted by Brian-de-vie, 02-04-2008, 12:16 PM
Na, not the Gov. it must be the 'body snatching/aliens' as somebody else said.
Posted by Brian-de-vie, 02-04-2008, 12:21 PM
All those involved are full of clever trex, they may rise like a phoenix, but prob. more likely a burnt sparrow !
Posted by bryonhost1, 02-04-2008, 01:21 PM
Hi! Sniff. As predicted..the kiddies are back in school. No drama this morning! Hmmm. So what's the status on this? Can I go out on a limb and say that most people finally got access to their data? Service has been restored? Each Mike has their own business to run? Too bad Mike O didn't do the right thing and register a user for himself..I saw that ban coming..from miles away. Seen it play out many times before..same result. Bryon
Posted by neil@ukwebhosting, 02-04-2008, 01:30 PM
As far as I can tell all the websites are still down.
Posted by Andrew.S, 02-04-2008, 01:30 PM
Heh, I'm flad that i am not a kiddie.
Posted by AHFBWEB, 02-04-2008, 01:37 PM
Are you serious? There goes your excuse.
Posted by JLHC, 02-04-2008, 02:05 PM
Wow... this drama is kinda long.. with 408 post.. BTW, so why isn't the RWW's mike replying to any of these messages anymore??
Posted by Andrew.S, 02-04-2008, 02:08 PM
I have no clue why he isnt replying
Posted by twenty4web, 02-04-2008, 02:19 PM
To update.... Trex is down, down for good, period. Unless James manages to either escape from jail or escape the charges. (both of those are highly unlikely) Some of the servers are accessible, but only for a short time.24-48hrs or maybe until the 8th. No one is going to pay the outstanding debt to keep them running. NS3 server was wiped clean. It seems that either mike does not really care about the customers data, unless of course they benefit. I myself have offered to purchase the domain and or site and put all the customers on new servers. (approval in writing from James of course) (yes you can get mail in jail too!). I also offered to sort out the customers to get everyone going again. I simply suggested that Mike O temp get trex website back online and get communication with the customers going. I must say .. that is a joke, these guys really keep messing it further, shame. Anyways, to sum it up... either rising ,nor whats left of trex staff really give a shlt period. run... run far and run fast!
Posted by bryonhost1, 02-04-2008, 02:20 PM
Hi! Hmmm..yes..and why the other mike didn't just register this own user name..is another mystery. >>da-gun! Ok..well..that is not good at all. Didn't the partial payment help? Well..I have seen worse. It seems at least some people were/are able to go in and get what they need before the ship offically disappears from sight. That's too bad..I thought Mike O was going to try and salvage things. Well..live and learn, folks. Make your backups..or else.. Bryon Last edited by bryonhost1; 02-04-2008 at 02:24 PM.
Posted by neil@ukwebhosting, 02-04-2008, 02:21 PM
So, not siding with MikeH here, but MikeO really is everything they said about him?
Posted by twenty4web, 02-04-2008, 02:25 PM
From my personal communication .. yes. They are confused kids, trying to make some cash. unfortunately, they have really bad business sense and have now screwed alot of people. I guess we know James was the brains of the operation, dont we.
Posted by Andrew.S, 02-04-2008, 03:03 PM
Extrex, Can you PM me your AIM or MSN?
Posted by Brian-de-vie, 02-04-2008, 03:28 PM
Maybe he's been abducted by aliens as well ? or more likely, his parents unpluged his pc.
Posted by Mike Hobgood, 02-04-2008, 03:30 PM
I'm not replying because its pointless. I can reply, try and defend myself and prove you all wrong in an instance. Then the highly critical WHT community will simply find another fault on my part, and it will just add to the drama. After consulting with several people, I was given advice on just shutting up and staying out of it.
Posted by JLHC, 02-04-2008, 03:32 PM
So which mike is wrong?? Maybe the other mike should register an account and join in to clear things up as well...
Posted by Brian-de-vie, 02-04-2008, 03:37 PM
Only if it's sent..... Why the F*ck couldn't the staff of Trex have bothered to contact him ? He appears to have Never Been UnReachable, just the kids were too busy setting up in compitition, while Mike O played the fiddle. I'll publically offer $1 for the domain, the business(it appears) is now worthless. And as I said before, it's the little customers that will prob. loose out the most.
Posted by Brian-de-vie, 02-04-2008, 03:40 PM
You recieved that advice rather late I'm afraid. But you should respect it none the less.
Posted by Brian-de-vie, 02-04-2008, 03:42 PM
I'm not sure it's his style to 'bother' ! But Mike O came across as honest(ish). Maybe neither Mike is 'in the right'.
Posted by steven99, 02-04-2008, 03:43 PM
That's kinda hard to do when FTP is down on most of their servers (just checked via telnet) and I bet a lot of customers don't have backups. So, if you can get in to Cpanel (http://server.trexthost.com:2082 -- where server is nsX) you could make a backup and have cpanel ftp that to a new host or make a full backup and have it save it in the root directory of the account and grab it via the file manager or move it to public_html via file manager and have the new host wget it over. Either way, another "kiddie" host (I guess since James was an adult, it's not kiddie but employing them) goes down the drain and takes customers with it. Makes the whole industry look bad.
Posted by neil@ukwebhosting, 02-04-2008, 03:47 PM
But it also looked like that the kids wasn't getting paid and also Mike O wasn't going to see to them or the servers.
Posted by Mike Hobgood, 02-04-2008, 03:53 PM
I really think you all should let us,as in RisingWebWorks and TrexHost work out our business. When changes occur, or decisions are made, you all will be first to hear about it. In the mean time, stop causing speculation and raising havoc.
Posted by neil@ukwebhosting, 02-04-2008, 03:56 PM
Before you work out you business's maybe you should see to your customers hosting first, these are the ones currently getting stuffed with no idea on whats happening
Posted by gopzap, 02-04-2008, 04:09 PM
I think someone owes me an Apology? I was trying to make a point about how MikeO hasn't helped much, infact made it worst. But everyone was like 'Stfu, MikeO is a good guy'. I'm going to defend MikeH here. If MikeO didn't make a statement on the 7th of January that he is going to take care of TrexHost (which he did not), then MikeH would've sent the e-mail telling TrexHost customers to run much earlier meaning there will be less data loss...? At the moment, I don't care if MikeH is trying to 'promote' his company (which I don't believe he is). The main problem with this situation is the downtime and loss of data for customers of TrexHost. MikeH, please speak up and tell us more about the story, the main reason why everyone has lost trust in you is because you're not explaining the situation after MikeO has posted. I'm happy that I run out off this mess and got my data out of TrexHost before the main server (NS1 & NS2) went down for almost 3 days...? And god knows if it will come back online.
Posted by bryonhost1, 02-04-2008, 04:12 PM
Hi! Oh..Mike. Mike. Mike. First..and foremost..this business is based on Trust. Trust. I know word for you..look it up. We don't trust you, Mike. I don't Mike O either..because he made a bunch of promises he didn't keep. Didn't he? Didn't you? This silence does not sit well with the future at all either. Heck...I love the "Email brent about the LLC filing", Right. I did that..what..three days ago? Not a peep..not that I really expected one. Stay in school. Finish School. Grow up. I suggest your "first job" should be in fast food. They'll hire anybody..and there you might actually learn how a real business operates. Maybe. Bryon
Posted by Mike Hobgood, 02-04-2008, 04:17 PM
Does that post not prove my statements above ?
Posted by gopzap, 02-04-2008, 04:18 PM
The size of the lies that MikeO have made are MUCH bigger compared to the size of MikeH's lies. MikeO's lies have caused large downtimes. MikeO's lies have caused huge data loss of over 500 domains. What were MikeH's lies? The one about who made the payment? And about the LLC thing? The LLC thing was made up by Brent, not MikeH. What huge havoc has the payment lie caused compared to the lies that MikeO has made...?
Posted by JLHC, 02-04-2008, 04:22 PM
Both are WRONG. Happy? Nobody is right here.
Posted by Mike Hobgood, 02-04-2008, 04:22 PM
For prompt clarification, I thought Mike O was going to be working with us. He claimed he was going to make the payment from his CC, which is why I stated we paid out of pocket. I also talked with Mike Laude from Softlayer, who gave me the quote of 1000$ which is why I then relayed that price here. As for the LLC, it is in progress. The forms have been submitted, as I stated. I am writing a full story about everything now, please give me an hour or two for me to publish it. EDIT: Another thing, and I will stand by this forever, I have not, and will not lie. While particular parts of this incident may have been shady, it is hard to explain a major issue such as this over forums. Especially when you account all of the critic post's you have to defend yourself against.
Posted by Outlaw Web Master, 02-04-2008, 04:26 PM
And that's supposed to make people feel easier? both hosts are liars? next time ..please stop the 1st person you meet and ask them to switch the button down on the back of your head..so that the brain functions before you open your mouth.. go back to your paper round buddy. owm
Posted by gopzap, 02-04-2008, 04:26 PM
MikeH, thank you for your time. I am waiting for your story. Btw, wow, there's so many different Mikes involved in this.
Posted by gopzap, 02-04-2008, 04:28 PM
Err... I don't understand what you mean by that. Also, I didn't say that both hosts are correct. When did I say it's supposed to make people feel easier? Sorry, please explain... I don't understand what you mean.
Posted by Outlaw Web Master, 02-04-2008, 04:30 PM
Originally Posted by gopzap what you infer there seems plain enough to me....both are liars ... owm
Posted by Brian-de-vie, 02-04-2008, 04:30 PM
If I was not getting paid, I'd have bothered to contact my employer even when he's in nick, but these guys seem to have been too busy with RWW, conflict of interest, as said before. If your going to set up in compitition, leave your current employer first.
Posted by rogerThat, 02-04-2008, 04:31 PM
Alright, I've been keeping up with this thread since day one as my account was also hosted on Trexhost.. Here's the thing.. Leave the business relations between the two companies. Let them work their own thing - stop bashing Mike H. (who at this point I have more trust in) and stop asking stupid questions. My account has also been down for the past few days. Luckily, I was able to make backups of most of my clients and already bought hosting else where. Though my domain was bought from Gazzin.com, since I had an account there before Trex. I bought a domain transfer from namecheap because I had no control over my domain that I had purchased from Gazzin. So not until I can get that domain and change the nameservers for it to point to my new server, my clients accounts won't work because their domains are pointed to ns1/ns2.mydomainwithgazzin.com. Also, this would be a good time to mention that Gazzin has HORRIBLE support. I requested my EPP code a few days back and still haven't received it. I don't care about James' situation or what's going on between the two Mikes - I just need my account back so I can finish the backups. And some of the members here need to stop wasting time making useless comments here.
Posted by Outlaw Web Master, 02-04-2008, 04:36 PM
There seems to be a lot of new member 1-2 post..posters who've been " I've been keeping up with this thread since day one" yet butt in after a week or so to give there 2 cents...seems really strange considering if my host went down and I'd seen a mega post started..them I'd have chipped in a long time ago. You wait until a 9 page thread before you post....highly unlikely. Seriously......why would you sit on the cheeks and watch other replies..after all your sites had gone down too. owm Last edited by Outlaw Web Master; 02-04-2008 at 04:40 PM.
Posted by Brian-de-vie, 02-04-2008, 04:36 PM
With respect Mike H. It was your e-mail that started all of this mess. Many here wanted to believe your were trying to act with honour, even if that was the case[which seems most unlikely from the activities going on], you / RWW handling of this has just been UnProffessional in the extreem.
Posted by JLHC, 02-04-2008, 04:39 PM
There are all kinds of people living in this world..
Posted by rogerThat, 02-04-2008, 04:40 PM
Only reason I did so is because the clients I had hosted on Trex were those who I personally know. Therefor, I did get a few calls about their websites, but I explained to them the situation and it wasn't so bad to get away with. I feel sympathy for those who had alot of clients hosted on Trex because they are in a more screwed situation than me.
Posted by Outlaw Web Master, 02-04-2008, 04:43 PM
with a million host companies out there offering the same as trexhost....people would be better just going somewhere else. it's really not worth the hassle. oversellers' are ten a penny. owm
Posted by twenty4web, 02-04-2008, 04:43 PM
You guys ..meaning Mike H and Mike O are both full of shlt period. If you listened... I have personally offered my own time and money to help out trexhost for James to mike O..it was clear that Mike O doesnèt care about trex customers, he cares about himself only! if anyone is really too stupid too get that, i guess I will need to post the entire MSN conversation I have had with Mike O. Mike H.... you are something else. I have about 10 trex customers contacting me because they say they have tried and tried to contact you in getting there back-ups going. you dont care about the customers as claimed and proved, so give it up. But please feel free to bury yourself here further. You lied, you got caught. both of you... now .. grow up, give what ever data you have back to the customers and move on. Geesh! this is insane and for the people who moved to rising web, I am sure that you are very happy, Mike is not going to loose any good words he can get at this point, i am sure he is kissing butt. just move on people....
Posted by Outlaw Web Master, 02-04-2008, 04:48 PM
best idea ever... and stop killing wht bandwith owm
Posted by gopzap, 02-04-2008, 04:48 PM
extrex, please post the convo you had with MikeO, just incase people don't understand and for the interests/entertainment.
Posted by gopzap, 02-04-2008, 04:51 PM
I'm sorry, but I don't see how TrexHost is overselling? $4.99 for 5gb seems reasonable enough. They may be filling up their servers with an addition 10gb that they do not have the resources for, but that's OK to most people. I doubt the 10gb thing is true anyway.
Posted by Outlaw Web Master, 02-04-2008, 04:51 PM
admins should just close this thread because it's about a much use as no use at all. owm
Posted by twenty4web, 02-04-2008, 04:52 PM
honestly, if people canèt put two and two together to figure out they are liars and cheaters and they dont care... they deserve what they get. If it comes to the point where i need to post it I will, at this point, I think the venture is over and the cat or trex is out of the bag
Posted by twenty4web, 02-04-2008, 04:53 PM
lol, no comment...case point
Posted by Outlaw Web Master, 02-04-2008, 04:55 PM
I'm sorry but right now trexhost is not even worth 2 balloons or a whistle. Only a complete idiot with 1/2 a brain would even contemplate staying with them or RWW. Serious people serious about their sites moved away a while ago. The ball's burst. owm Last edited by Outlaw Web Master; 02-04-2008 at 04:58 PM.
Posted by gopzap, 02-04-2008, 04:57 PM
What? Perhaps 5gb is 'little' too high for $4.99, but whatever. They're not huge oversellers or anything, unlike those companies that offer 300gb for $6.99.
Posted by Brian-de-vie, 02-04-2008, 04:57 PM
ALL Lies are wrong, in business[as both Mikes are learning], it's commercial suicide. Some don't agree with my stance on that, well 'Actions speak louder than words' Look how the lies told here have backfired. That will Always happen eventualy.
Posted by gopzap, 02-04-2008, 04:59 PM
I'm sorry but your post is 100% irrelevant with the post that you've quoted. When did I say anything about how much TrexHost is worth? When did I say anything about if anyone is going to stay with TrexHost? When did I say anything about 'serious' people? You're actually annoying me right now. What has overselling got to do with any of those? I'm trying to co-operate with you but it's a bit annoying if you're talking about things that haven't got anything to do with anything.
Posted by Outlaw Web Master, 02-04-2008, 05:01 PM
lmao ..I'm annoying you? what age are you.....12? maybe 14? you know nothing....it's 9pm here in the uk...so maybe you should pop into your bed so that you don't sleep in for your early morning paper round. kids owm
Posted by bryonhost1, 02-04-2008, 05:01 PM
Hi! Brian-De-Vie..see..the problem is they *Dont* see a problem with it..and think it's perfectly ok. I'm through with this thread. Toodles! Bryon
Posted by Brian-de-vie, 02-04-2008, 05:03 PM
Maybe do a search here re 'overselling' to learn what it means, before you critique someone for using the term correctly.
Posted by gopzap, 02-04-2008, 05:08 PM
Yes... I know what overselling is... My point is that if every TrexHost customer used up all of their space then TrexHost's hard drive may need an additional 10gb to hold everyone's data. And since when did I talk to OWM about him using the term correctly?
Posted by Outlaw Web Master, 02-04-2008, 05:10 PM
so maths isn't your best subject then or do you know all trexhost's accounts? trexhost are finished.... owm
Posted by Brian-de-vie, 02-04-2008, 05:11 PM
All types of Bryons are wise. I think everybody should be through with this thread, leave it to the kiddies to squable. on there own Brian
Posted by gopzap, 02-04-2008, 05:14 PM
I see. ? No, I don't know every single trexhost account. I agree... Unless they decide to start up from scratch again.
Posted by Outlaw Web Master, 02-04-2008, 05:14 PM
one thing's for sure ....maybe the right time to get an account is now with trexhost...cause one thing's for sure ...there'll not be too many accounts on their servers so your site's sure to fly in ..impossible to be oversold with all the crap that's gone on...talk about account migration lol. owm
Posted by Brian-de-vie, 02-04-2008, 05:15 PM
No, when OWM says kiss his a*se, that is what he means, and you obviously understood what he meant on that occassion. Communication envolves both talking & LISTENING
Posted by KyleB325, 02-04-2008, 05:19 PM
Thats what we are trying to do, Theres a lot of "If" and "Buts" trying to do anything to the company...
Posted by Brian-de-vie, 02-04-2008, 05:20 PM
Originally Posted by Outlaw Web Master http://www.webhostingtalk.com/whtima...s/viewpost.gif with a million host companies out there offering the same as trexhost....people would be better just going somewhere else. it's really not worth the hassle. oversellers' are ten a penny. owm "I'm sorry, but I don't see how TrexHost is overselling?" Maybe I can't read ?
Posted by KyleB325, 02-04-2008, 05:22 PM
They have 5 servers, and the hdd's are around 400GB....
Posted by gopzap, 02-04-2008, 05:22 PM
I can see where you're coming from. After that statement I said MAYBE they're overselling, I don't know for sure. But I just don't see it.
Posted by Brian-de-vie, 02-04-2008, 05:23 PM
You could be there first new customer !
Posted by gopzap, 02-04-2008, 05:26 PM
Nah, I have no reason to switch web-hosts unless theres a big problem with the quality. I'm happy with my new host right now.
Posted by KyleB325, 02-04-2008, 05:33 PM
Trexhost will be back with better service, and smarter staff.. Its being built as we speak. -Everything that we are doing right now is for James when he will return(You'll find out more about this soon)
Posted by webster13045, 02-04-2008, 05:35 PM
james never did me wrong if anything he always helped me in anyway he could however at this time my sites are the #1 priority so i have left trexhost and went elsewhere i did not choose RWW either that would just be stupid as they are going to have same problems
Posted by Outlaw Web Master, 02-04-2008, 05:36 PM
www.mickeymousehosting.com go kyle go and good luck. owm
Posted by KyleB325, 02-04-2008, 05:39 PM
Thanks for defending Trexhost, I feel the same way. I remember I was in serious need of money to pay my mortgage, he offered me money...
Posted by JohnJ, 02-04-2008, 05:40 PM
Is he going to meet bail?
Posted by KyleB325, 02-04-2008, 05:41 PM
If that site is hosted on trexhost. Trexhost NS3 server basically crashed, I'm not going to get into the details, but when NS3 crashed, none of the servers will work.
Posted by KyleB325, 02-04-2008, 05:42 PM
If everyone didn't leave trexhost.
Posted by Outlaw Web Master, 02-04-2008, 05:47 PM
what percentage have left trexhost ? hats off to kyle for loyalty by the way. as for goppers...man it's way past your bedtime so that now makes him a bad person? owm
Posted by JohnJ, 02-04-2008, 05:49 PM
First, since when did we start calling people names? Don't you remember the golden rule? Outlaw is ten times as wise as you will ever be. Let me tell you what James is like from my perspective - I worked there long enough to know all I want to know about him (two days). He's not a person to think things through and is very defensive. You say one wrong thing to him and he will take all the cheap shots he can to get you back. He told people that I tried to blackmail him for my job back (untrue), sent me a false invoice email (you may not have believed that story, but I know I didn't sign up with that email), and even told WHT that I am not capable of creating a MySQL database (which is extremely untrue). I have been told by many people that know James that he can be defensive at times, which I have first hand experience in. As for him and the entire jail deal, I'm not sure if that is true or not. That judgment will be made by the American judicial system. I have nothing against Michael, because for the most part he is a responsible person. He did seem to appreciate what I did in the little time I was at TrexHost and the fact that I have helped him in more than one situation. I'm not sure where Rising Web Works is going to go, but I'm sure Michael will work things out. However, Michael, I do think you should give current TrexHost customers the same price they were paying.
Posted by Outlaw Web Master, 02-04-2008, 05:52 PM
thanks mate ...but I probably forget more when i'm sleeping to what he's ever likely to learn when he's awake nevertheless ...the compliment's fine. owm
Posted by neil@ukwebhosting, 02-04-2008, 05:56 PM
Sorry, personally I think you're going off track bashing gopzap, its uncalled for. He is an actual customer of Trexhost and so has a right to be here, if he wants to think (even if its stupid) the best of James that its up to him and not something he should be attacked over,
Posted by Frankc, 02-04-2008, 05:57 PM
I left too.. Loyal or not, can't wait without any information 'till my website are back again.. this is ridiculous, it crashed saturday and we still don't know what is happening exactly. Mike O. told us it was security and server would be up soon, about 48 hours later, still nothing. I made a move and went to hostgator. Support so far is great, server is really fast.
Posted by neil@ukwebhosting, 02-04-2008, 06:03 PM
It seems very similar to what happened with Disoft when it was taken over by Pathfinder, in the end, disoft was finished, Trexhost is finished, once up and running, they'll be better off rebranding.
Posted by webster13045, 02-04-2008, 06:03 PM
you ask me the whole thread went out of hand went from trying to get our data back to investigating someone if you wish to stay then stay if not then move on simple as 123
Posted by Outlaw Web Master, 02-04-2008, 06:04 PM
I removed the crap post because the Kyle dude seems a loyal chap and worth supporting..... If over the next few days..trexhost gets it ship sailing on a good course..then by all means give them a fair chance. owm Last edited by Outlaw Web Master; 02-04-2008 at 06:10 PM.
Posted by KyleB325, 02-04-2008, 06:04 PM
I cannot say because I don't know. We have over 13,000 invoices to go through, and the NS3 is still having problems. Agreed, OWM is wiser. Mike H tried to do a trexhost monoply and it backfired. -Discount MAY be given for Trexhost customers, we have not decided yet.
Posted by Brian-de-vie, 02-04-2008, 06:11 PM
So was there a reason why you did not say "he needs to stay on the subject and not change the topic to something completely different", in the first place ?I've had many debates with OWM here at WHT, I was just passing on my experience to you. It's an open forum(not a 2 way chat room), Freedom of speach and all that, you don't have to have an arguament, your free, as is every WHT member to debate anything I post in this or any other thread, but if you want 'passion' with your debate, SI is the place for you.
Posted by Outlaw Web Master, 02-04-2008, 06:16 PM
that would be the preverbial baptism of fire mate some might call it a liberty take. nevertheless...gop's away to sleep now. owm Last edited by Outlaw Web Master; 02-04-2008 at 06:23 PM.
Posted by Brian-de-vie, 02-04-2008, 06:25 PM
Correction - WAS a customer - As far as I know, and I'm sure the mods here will either agree or correct me, this is an open forum for members of the 'Hosting Industry'. The thread concerns the Industry, how we are percieved, how we manage problems, and much much more, little things like business integrity for example. If there are any restrictions to this thread Mods should state that now, otherwise, surely normal WHT rules apply.
Posted by KyleB325, 02-04-2008, 06:34 PM
Thanks for the recognition guys, I appreciate it. Also, I can say that Trexhost.com will not be online within couple of day, For that to happen we have to work around the clock... -Please allow us a week. I will start laying down our base plan as of now(It may change) First we need to email all the customer, and see who is leaving and who is staying. Second, We will need to order a new server,- The reason is because Mike Ousley and I are going to build a new hosting site, since Trexhost has been trashed, and has a bad rep now. *The new hosting site is for James, and it will be forked over to him, once he returns. (Just thought I'd let you so you don't think its a "take over." We know where that went with RWW.
Posted by AHFBWEB, 02-04-2008, 06:42 PM
OMG Firm dumb and dumber to now dumb, dumber, and dumbest.
Posted by Brian-de-vie, 02-04-2008, 08:37 PM
Yes, it went to pot at some stage, there just has not been enough 'common sense', 'common curtesy', 'openess' or 'honesty'. Some have tried to be helpful[thank you], but most useful comments have been ignored or missinterperated. I know some think I'm an evil b*gg*r for suggesting lawyers should be contacted, or that lies are lies, well, any lawyers envolved now will get an Easter bonus that could have been avoided.
Posted by KyleB325, 02-04-2008, 08:45 PM
I think we should leave RWW alone, and let them continue with thier buisiness. They just introduced it at the wrong time. Otherwise MikeH is a good guy
Posted by twenty4web, 02-04-2008, 09:13 PM
You guys "STILL" don't get it? Are all of you teenagers or preteens? You can butter up popcorn, but thats about all. mmmm, popcorn... Have to go make some , next episode of the three stooges is coming up.
Posted by JohnJ, 02-04-2008, 09:13 PM
Kyle, do you work for Rising Web Works?
Posted by twenty4web, 02-04-2008, 09:16 PM
He is on there servers.
Posted by KyleB325, 02-04-2008, 09:18 PM
I am leaving soon. -No I don't.
Posted by JohnJ, 02-04-2008, 10:05 PM
Why did you use the word, "we" in that comment?
Posted by KyleB325, 02-04-2008, 10:07 PM
I am not the only one in this, Ther is another person, possibly another person...
Posted by JohnJ, 02-04-2008, 10:18 PM
You and who are deciding this?
Posted by KyleB325, 02-04-2008, 10:31 PM
Mike Ousley, and (Can't say his name, Not sure if he wants me disclose it or not)
Posted by JohnJ, 02-04-2008, 10:35 PM
Are you even reading my quote? That is a quote of what you said in a previous post. When a person says "we," he/she is talking about him/herself and someone else.
Posted by KyleB325, 02-04-2008, 10:48 PM
I said the other peoples name.
Posted by JohnJ, 02-04-2008, 10:56 PM
Are you having a difficult time understanding the definition of, "we?" http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q...=Google+Search
Posted by KyleB325, 02-04-2008, 11:05 PM
Are you having difficulty comprehending? WE; KYLEB325(ME) MIKE OUSLEY
Posted by Brian-de-vie, 02-04-2008, 11:33 PM
John, with respect, nobody gives a damm anymore.
Posted by KyleB325, 02-04-2008, 11:34 PM
Brian lol
Posted by KyleB325, 02-05-2008, 12:41 AM
Here are IP's of the servers just incase you were wondering if they are online or not. **REMOVED**
Posted by JohnJ, 02-05-2008, 07:57 AM
So you are saying that you (someone who does not work there) and Mike Ousley are determining whether all TrexHost clients should receive a discount?
Posted by JLHC, 02-05-2008, 11:25 AM
Why are they removed? BTW, why is owm temporary suspended?
Posted by gopzap, 02-05-2008, 12:39 PM
Still waiting for MikeH's post/story. By the way, can someone please explain to me how everyone calls OWM 'wise' when all he does it quote people, insult them and put a smiley face next to his post because he can't even think of a way to defend himself? I'm not going to bother to argue anymore, I wasn't expecting OWM to reply to my post by just telling me it's my bedtime. To me, he's not an enemy, he's a pest (ignorant) and nothing more. Last edited by gopzap; 02-05-2008 at 12:44 PM.
Posted by Dan_EZPZ, 02-05-2008, 12:43 PM
I can't believe this thread is still here. The worthwhile discussion ended a long time ago!
Posted by gopzap, 02-05-2008, 12:57 PM
This thread isn't going anywhere, because we haven't been told any new information yet. I'm awaiting a post by MikeH.
Posted by twenty4web, 02-05-2008, 01:34 PM
What "new" information are you waiting for?
Posted by techbydesign, 02-05-2008, 02:01 PM
Gosh I read this from start to end. I do hope everyone manages to get their data and can move on. I thought I was having a rough time with my old host being bought out...but my problems are minor compared to what some of you guys are going through. Best of luck guys, I mean that!
Posted by WireSix-Matt, 02-05-2008, 02:12 PM
Holy geez, how long did it take you to do that?!
Posted by techbydesign, 02-05-2008, 02:20 PM
Couple hrs lol...
Posted by gopzap, 02-05-2008, 02:58 PM
Explanations from MikeH about the payment thing, when will TrexHost.com will appear online, why has NS3's harddrive been formatted, and so on. Mainly curiosity and information to customers that are still trying to get a backup of their websites (which they should of done a long time ago) since the servers are offline.
Posted by Brian-de-vie, 02-05-2008, 03:13 PM
Deja Vu, read the thread, Mike H, has said he's not going to post any more, Mike O & Kyle are trying to rescue Trexhost, but give them a week, there is more info here, including links to a co-op type, ex trexhost forum, but you have to read the thread like techbydesign bothered to, make some effert. ps. No smiley from me !
Posted by gopzap, 02-05-2008, 03:17 PM
YOU need to read the thread. MikeH has said that he will post a full explanation within an hour, to defend himself - And we're still waiting. (And this is AFTER he said he will no longer post) Maybe if you actually read that post, you wouldn't've made yourself look like an idiot. If you give me a moment, I will find and quote his post. MikeO is trying to 'rescue' TrexHost? What, by allowing over 3 days of downtime and NS3's harddrives to be erased causing the loss of over 500 domains? I will support Kyle, however. By the way, those 'ex-TrexHost forums' are pretty empty even after checking a few hours later - they still contain few to no posts.
Posted by gopzap, 02-05-2008, 03:21 PM
http://www.webhostingtalk.com/showth...667169&page=29 Yesterday, 03:22 PM
Posted by Steve_Arm, 02-05-2008, 03:46 PM
An hour or two yesterday... He meant a month or two. Nevertheless I enjoyed some good laughing and reading with this thread along with my espressos. What's to explain? That they made a mess? Anyway being a kid they always forgive you.
Posted by EdisonLiu, 02-05-2008, 03:49 PM
Umm, I just found out about this board last night, well actually this morning at 3 AM, that TrexHost is closing, by searching trexhost on google. I was wondering why my website was not working all this time. I tried contacting but trexhost website don't work either and the support number the same. I am still not able to get my backup data of my websites ..... Is there any possible way of retrieving it? I never recieved an email notifying me of this either. Last edited by EdisonLiu; 02-05-2008 at 03:52 PM.
Posted by gopzap, 02-05-2008, 03:53 PM
You're very unlucky... Maybe there was a problem with your e-mail server at that time or your e-mail address was outdated if you've change your e-mail address. What server are you on? Or what is your domain name?
Posted by WireSix-Matt, 02-05-2008, 03:54 PM
I wish you the best of luck my friend. This whole thing appears to be an absolute mess.
Posted by EdisonLiu, 02-05-2008, 03:57 PM
crystal-liu.com as the main reseller account and a couple of other websites.
Posted by gopzap, 02-05-2008, 04:02 PM
You're on NS7. http://ns7.trexhost.com/ See if you can login to cPanel at http://ns7.trexhost.com:2082/.
Posted by EdisonLiu, 02-05-2008, 04:05 PM
Thanks but it seems that the website link can't be found. The domain of trexhost.com is not working, so the link provided did not work... help
Posted by steven99, 02-05-2008, 04:08 PM
Nevermind... wrong server via dns lookup.
Posted by gopzap, 02-05-2008, 04:09 PM
Are you sure? The link is working fine for me. Try: http://75.126.188.26/ http://75.126.188.26:2082/
Posted by EdisonLiu, 02-05-2008, 04:12 PM
Thanks, this link works, but I can't login.... Does that mean my account has been deleted?
Posted by Brian-de-vie, 02-05-2008, 04:15 PM
Mike O AND Kyle are working together, to rescue TrexHost etc. are you poss., the poss. 'other' ? Mike H, honestly said he was not posting any more here, after that post, what cred. does his extra posts have ? Feels like a very long couple of hours to me, but maybe he's not reachable just now ? or maybe ...................................................................................................
Posted by JohnJ, 02-05-2008, 04:17 PM
I think he's at school right now. However, he's online AIM a lot, so I think him not replying is just a personal choice.
Posted by gopzap, 02-05-2008, 04:22 PM
I still think MikeH will post again soon. Maybe he just ran out time to make his post? Or he is extending it/still working on it? What is your username?
Posted by AHFBWEB, 02-05-2008, 04:30 PM
That is good news, I thought you lot were all dropouts.
Posted by EdisonLiu, 02-05-2008, 04:30 PM
crystal is my username.
Posted by gopzap, 02-05-2008, 04:38 PM
I've got some news. All of TrexHost's servers ARE online. However, it seems that all of the data has been wiped off, which is the reason why none of the domains are working... ns3.trexhost.com - http://75.126.89.211/ As you can see, the server IS online, but there's no accounts on it... None of the accounts that I had with that server are still available - it just gives me an incorrect login error. And when I go to /~username/, it's a 404 error. EdisonLiu, unfortunately, that might be the answer to your question. ns7.trexhost.com - http://75.126.188.26/ The same thing happens with NS7, and all of the other servers... MikeO & Kyle are the reason behind this? MikeO is the one that has access to these servers, and from what I've heard, he's the one that 'formatted' the drives. Also, Reverse IP finds 0 domains that are with those IPs.
Posted by twenty4web, 02-05-2008, 05:02 PM
ok...still not sure what you guys can't get? read..... if you read, you will learn... pretty simply. Trexhost is DEAD! NS3 data is GONE! Prob a few other server data too! NS11 is still working via WHM/CPanel and FTP If that is not PLAIN and SIMPLE for anyone, you need to go back to school!
Posted by KyleB325, 02-05-2008, 05:04 PM
As of now I have no clue whats going on. Mike Ousley has access to the servers, I am not sure what he is doing. He wasn't online yesterday. And isnt online right now either.
Posted by Steve_Arm, 02-05-2008, 05:19 PM
Someone wrote "would turn in such a drama", I'd say it turned to comedy now. As lightly they thought with their small kiddie brain, that they can steal the customers, that easy they said sc***w it, wipe all the data. Beers to extrex.
Posted by gopzap, 02-05-2008, 05:20 PM
extrex, was that aimed at me? Because if it was, I already know that TrexHost is finished, I was answering EdisonLiu's question. I'm not THAT stupid to JUST find out that TrexHost is finished.
Posted by BluewaveHosted, 02-05-2008, 05:23 PM
come on guys, let's not jump at each other at the end of such a long thread, over 540 posts...wow. I think it is time to put an end to this. Don't you?
Posted by Brian-de-vie, 02-05-2008, 05:31 PM
Farse is the word that springs to my mind. Sorry to GopZap re. Mike H's posts, I made a mistake, but it was only a little mistake, so it wasn't realy a mistake, was it. He aint going to post the 'story' anyway, so, who gives a sh*t. And OWM, prob. had a glass to many last night, but he's old enough to drink, he never tries to be popular, just honest & a little too blunt. But don't let that fool you, he has inteligence & experience.
Posted by Brian-de-vie, 02-05-2008, 05:35 PM
or for the younger viewers - the End
Posted by KyleB325, 02-05-2008, 05:39 PM
Here is NS11 ip aswell, 74.86.160.154 I am investigating this, One of my domains I left at Trexhost is still working...
Posted by KyleB325, 02-05-2008, 05:48 PM
I think that young viewers have no reason to be here
Posted by AHFBWEB, 02-05-2008, 06:17 PM
Sure they have a reason, they want to start up trex under a new name. at this point there are 2 or 3 groups of children doing this and you belong(ed) to one of them.
Posted by Brian-de-vie, 02-05-2008, 06:21 PM
Well it would be nice to suggest closing this thread, for so many reasons, but while new viewers are coming in via google [ie real customers trying to find out whats going on / gone on], there seems to be some justification with letting it continue.
Posted by Nnyan, 02-05-2008, 06:27 PM
I want drama in my life like I want a hole in my head. Why would anyone have anything to do with anyone related to this mess (and I don't care if it's Little Lie Mike or Bigger Lie Mike or whoever) is beyond me. But like a wise man once said "there is a sucker born..." There are so many quality resellers out there and yet companies like these still attract customers somehow.
Posted by JohnJ, 02-05-2008, 06:32 PM
What do you consider a "child?"
Posted by AHFBWEB, 02-05-2008, 06:37 PM
You are a child, am I wrong? Of course you will have another name for it like "teen ceo president"
Posted by KyleB325, 02-05-2008, 06:46 PM
Why are we talking about how old we are? It doesnt matter, and it doesn't relate to the thread.
Posted by steven99, 02-05-2008, 06:51 PM
ChildWith all three definitions, I guess teens and younger are children. (I'm glad I passed that definition stage ages ago. ) I like the title though, "Teen CEO" EDIT: Kyle, what will the new name be called?
Posted by JohnJ, 02-05-2008, 06:52 PM
Actually, I am Ruler of The World, which dwarfs any rank you can call yourself.
Posted by Brian-de-vie, 02-05-2008, 07:43 PM
While some comments being thrown around here might be childish, I'm afraid age & this thread are Very Relavent. Our Industy in general, suffers from some serious mickey mouse outfits run by the young. Much of the problems of TrexHosting, seems to originate from 'young' management, employing even younger staff, who then set up an even younger company etc. Don't get me wrong, there are good young companies with good young staff, these are run by commited people & quite rightly succeed. But the majority[more than 50%] of hosting businesses run by youngsters, screw up. I personaly [as a BOF] , think age is relavant to this thread and our industry in general. But more important is maturity & commitment. ps. many know Harvey de Hare is God, I outrank everybody ! - -
Posted by KyleB325, 02-05-2008, 07:46 PM
Agreed, Usually the higher age, the more mature and reliable they are. Industries are screwed up because of youngsters because they aren't loyal and commited.
Posted by twenty4web, 02-05-2008, 07:50 PM
Seeming I already gave myself the rank "Grandma" I feel with all this age talk it's most suitable When you become an adult and live your life as an adult for some time, To have a "little" experience, you will see, it "does" matter. For now, YOU as in.. "child","children","preteen","adolescent",minor","just learned how to shave","Graduated College,University or school,maybe a dropout!" YOU already know "everything" so what's the point?
Posted by Brian-de-vie, 02-05-2008, 08:11 PM
Heh, I have some experience 'Grandma'
Posted by anon-e-mouse, 02-05-2008, 08:28 PM
How about we get this back on track?
Posted by KyleB325, 02-05-2008, 08:29 PM
Get what back on track?
Posted by bear, 02-05-2008, 08:49 PM
Off "age" and labels and back to "trexhost", the subject of this thread.
Posted by Brian-de-vie, 02-05-2008, 09:02 PM
OK for anybody reading this thread for the first time, trying to find out what has happened re. TrexHost & RWW. The answer is it's complicated, best advice [from me] is to search WHT for an alternative reputable host. If you've been unfortunate enough to have no back ups, and have lost your site/data, it appears unlikely it will be recoverable. I'm sorry there is no better picture to paint, but I'd encourage you to be realistic, rather than have expectations, which with the best will in the world, I cannot believe will materialise.
Posted by cyberagora, 02-05-2008, 09:03 PM
Okay, I'm one of the people who found this thread by Google. I had a dedicated server with Trexhost, and my server has been down for a week and a half. I tracked down the owner of the server, and they were about to transfer the server to me, which trexhost had agreed to, but decided not to until trexhost paid all their overdue invoices with them--about $1000. So my clients have been without their sites for a week and a half, with no end in sight.
Posted by AHFBWEB, 02-05-2008, 09:06 PM
I hope you had your customers best interest in mind and did not rely on a third party for backups.
Posted by Brian-de-vie, 02-05-2008, 09:10 PM
It has been said that the OS invoice of $1000 [or whatever], was paid, so you may like to re-check. At one point a 'shut out' date of 8th Feb was spoken of, so there may just be a small window of time to work in. Sound like re-contacting the data centre may be your best bet. Good Luck I might add that anyone they may have been able to help you is not likely to return to this thread 'in the short term'.
Posted by cyberagora, 02-05-2008, 09:14 PM
The $1000 figure was given to me this afternoon (2/5/08)
Posted by steven99, 02-05-2008, 09:24 PM
By who exactly?
Posted by Brian-de-vie, 02-05-2008, 09:24 PM
Then that just confirms that there have been even more lies [of all sizes] and misinformation, than I thought, which is a lot. You may or may not want to plough through this thread in full [couple of hours !] to get a better but false ? picture of events. from memory - simplified: The owner is in jail, the 'co owner' Mike O, was going to sort things out, an ex employer Mike H, was sorting out getting people over to his new hosting biz RWW. Softlayer, PayPal, and any lawyers, have been noticeable by there absence. It's one big mess. If your thinking of paying that invoice, to enable you access; I'd be very careful & not trust any body at the present.
Posted by KyleB325, 02-05-2008, 09:32 PM
I was told, they are in the hole like 300 dollars with SL, and another 1,000+ due on the 11th. Trexhost had a server bill of 2,500/month
Posted by cyberagora, 02-05-2008, 09:48 PM
The $1000 was to layeredtech.com
Posted by twenty4web, 02-05-2008, 09:48 PM
800 was paid, it's not paid off, just paid... big difference.. Feb 8th is the renew date.
Posted by Adam-AEC, 02-05-2008, 10:12 PM
Where the frig did this thread come from so quickly! Poor disaster planning by the Trexhost owner. Poor takeover execution by the new host with the mass-mail. I'd imagine most serious hosts have procedures in place in case of an unfortunate event that they are involved in. An 'executor of state' if you will.
Posted by twenty4web, 02-06-2008, 12:45 AM
Maybe if someone could suggest a few good sites for ex-trex host customers to go to? this way it will help them more...
Posted by Kingfish85, 02-06-2008, 01:30 AM
Hello guys, This is Brent Hartzell of RisingWebWorks. Even though I have not been posting, I have been reading all of the other post's on this thread. I am quite surprised of how things get twisted around, whether it be from RisingWebWorks members or webhostingtalk members. This message is not targeted to anyone in specific. Some of the things I have read on the forum about "James" the owner of Trexhost.com, I think are very misleading. Any of James' personal business should be kept personal whether things stated are true or not. It is his business. I have read on some post's about how RisingWebWorks has been lying on the forums and to customers and I want to explain everything exactly how this whole situation was created. First, I would like to explain the misunderstanding about the $1,000.00-$200.00- situation. At the time of the statement that we were going to be paying out of our pockets to have the servers turned back on, in fact we were. Mike Ousley was planning on moving over to work with us here at RisingWebWorks. After speaking with Mr. Ousley about this situation, it was agreed apon that Mr. Ousley would pay $1,000.00 with his credit card and that we "RisingWebWorks" would contribute $200.00 to the server bill. During this time we had spoken with Mike Laude & Steven Canale from Softlayer Data Center, which whom had given us a quote of $1,000.00 to have the servers turned back on. Thus why it was stated "paying $1,000.00 out of pocket". As it turned out we paid Mr. Ousley and Mr. Ousley paid $800.00 from James' paypal, WHICH WAS NOT WHAT WAS AGREED APON. We later found that the total amount paid was $800.00 and not the full $1,000.00. The $200.00 that was sent to Mr. Ousley was pocketed by him. Essentially Mr. Ousley made $200.00 profit through this, which we are looking into. RisingWebWorks is not, or I feel we are not "stealing" customers from Trexhost. We let customers know that their services will not be fulfilled at Trexhost because of financial issues with servers. We offered an alternative to Trexhost, we did not "force" any customer to come to RisingWebWorks. It was my understanding that Mr. Ousley did not contribute very much to Trexhost. This was brought to my attention after the fact that I considered him to be a part of RisingWebWorks. I can not speak for Mr. Ousley's actions as acting admin for Trexhost, nor will I judge him as I wish him the best of luck with running Trexhost, however the servers have been up and down numerous times, and as of right now they are currently down. I or any RisingWebWorks member do not know what is going on with their servers, as all we know is the Trexhost.com site is currently down. I do apologize for any misunderstanding or misleading information that has been posted on this forum. The information above is the complete story on this whole situation. After reading this information, I hope everyone can let this issue be part of the past. RisingWebWorks has been trying to help the "stranded Trexhost customers" since their servers were shut down and we have constantly been insulted on the forums because we are fairly new.
Posted by Aussie Bob, 02-06-2008, 01:37 AM
Can anyone give me the quick version of this thread? I can't read all 12 pages.
Posted by Kingfish85, 02-06-2008, 01:39 AM
I have basically summed everything up in the last post, in a short version.
Posted by twenty4web, 02-06-2008, 01:54 AM
Hello "Brent" It's nice to see you finally waited for all the information to come out so that you could think of a response to the whole mess. when in reality... if it were that simple, you would have just said that in the beginning? correct? You paid ..or tied to paid to keep the servers going so that you could transfer data to profit from trexhost mishap, nothing else. Do you think just because you employ children to run your company that we are simple minded too? Do you think that you can convince us from anything other than you have done it for your own gain, screwed the majority of trex's customers and have waited till the end, when the dust is settling and when customers are finally starting to calm down and simply say.,. eh, well we tried to pay for you guys, cause were super duper people and we just want to help? sorry... doesn't work for me..
Posted by twenty4web, 02-06-2008, 01:57 AM
Whatever Data you DO have of trex's customers, (the data you stole) GIVE IT BACK!
Posted by Kingfish85, 02-06-2008, 02:14 AM
Ok, First off, i was unaware of the the things that were going on here on the forum until it was brought to my attention. We did not try to keep the servers running so we could profit, we tried to keep the servers running so we could get data back for people. All data that we would have gotten, would have been given back free of charge. If those people were to join risingwebworks then that is their choice. And we did NOT STEAL ANYTHING!!!! We had an agreement with Mike Ousely, the acting admin for trexhost to transfer data.
Posted by twenty4web, 02-06-2008, 02:25 AM
Are you KIDDING!!! Where were you?? in outer space??????????? data back for "what" people?? Your "new" clients? and 39 pages of talk about "your" company involving you and "your employees and you were just notified? hmmm I seem to recal short notification somewhere else too.. is that the practice of rising web?? and er umm....sorry... who is "we" ???? Last edited by anon-e-mouse; 02-06-2008 at 03:42 AM. Reason: merged posts
Posted by Kingfish85, 02-06-2008, 02:30 AM
Look, the sarcasm is not needed. I am trying to straighten this mess out. How were you "screwed" by us?
Posted by Andrew.S, 02-06-2008, 02:30 AM
Extrex, you know what... You should keep your mouth shut! Your the one making this into an bigger issue.
Posted by twenty4web, 02-06-2008, 02:34 AM
the sarcasm?? it;s called anger, so...look yourself... not sure why you think you can continue to fool everyone or why you are even bothering to say anything at all. ok, thats not needed. but I seem to recall simular words from when I was in kindergarden, when billy caught bobby stealing and told the teacher. and your trying to get out of it, nothing else! and unless you feel you should un-employ some of your workers, then screwed by us means exactly what it is.. just because you change names doesn't mean you can hide. Last edited by anon-e-mouse; 02-06-2008 at 03:43 AM. Reason: merged posts
Posted by Kingfish85, 02-06-2008, 02:37 AM
Can you give me a reason of how you were "screwed" by risingwebworks? No one has changed names. And yes some members of risingwebworks are no longer with, and I'm not trying to get out of anything, I am trying to straighten this up. Last edited by anon-e-mouse; 02-06-2008 at 03:49 AM. Reason: merged posts
Posted by twenty4web, 02-06-2008, 02:39 AM
and if you don't like my sarcasm or anger , maybe your company lawyers can contact mine. I know mine exist... Do yours?
Posted by EEssam, 02-06-2008, 02:41 AM
I don't understand how can SoftLayer handle the server for another person just because he is ready to pay!!! Am I missing something here?
Posted by Kingfish85, 02-06-2008, 02:41 AM
So if you were screwed by us, have you paid anything to risingwebworks?
Posted by twenty4web, 02-06-2008, 02:45 AM
Brent....maybe you should seek legal help... They might be able to make some clarification from some of this, since.. you are not getting anything that has been posted or said on these forums about what has been done and the legality of it all. And if you really want to keep pissing a customer off who's data you may or may not have had your hands on, with the funds to take you to court (remember not a child here) then , please give it up.
Posted by Kingfish85, 02-06-2008, 02:49 AM
This is what I am talking about. If you are a customer I would like to know. Or if I supposedly have your data let me know. This is what I am trying to fix.
Posted by twenty4web, 02-06-2008, 02:52 AM
I think you need to fix alot more? don't you? But some people may think it's beyond fixing... just a thought.
Posted by Kingfish85, 02-06-2008, 02:54 AM
I'm working on alot of problems. What is it that you want? Talk out of the forum?
Posted by twenty4web, 02-06-2008, 02:58 AM
You did nothing wrong. sorry to waste your time. I will stop creating "talk" in a forum I don't own. was that sarcasm? Last edited by anon-e-mouse; 02-06-2008 at 03:44 AM. Reason: merged posts
Posted by Kingfish85, 02-06-2008, 03:00 AM
No , I'm being serious, if you are/were a customer and feel like ou have been "screwed over" I would like to know.
Posted by twenty4web, 02-06-2008, 03:03 AM
ok, first of all I appreciate the help. or offer, but i am not the one who needs the help. I think honestly what you need to do , to save some sort of face (if thats even possible) is to .. a)Stop the bullsh*t b)Give people's data back c)explain why you were wrong and aiding minors is not such a good thing either is it? Last edited by anon-e-mouse; 02-06-2008 at 03:51 AM. Reason: merged posts
Posted by Kingfish85, 02-06-2008, 03:11 AM
I will be addressing these issues, and as i stated before any data will be returned free of charge. As for stating why we were wrong, no one was forced to switch.
Posted by twenty4web, 02-06-2008, 03:13 AM
ok, ..."hint" "hint" " "aiding and abetting" A criminal charge of aiding and abetting or accessory can usually be brought against anyone who helps in the commission of a crime, though legal distinctions vary by state. A person charged with aiding and abetting or accessory is usually not present when the crime itself is committed, but he or she has knowledge of the crime before or after the fact, and may assist in its commission through advice, actions, or financial support. Depending on the degree of involvement, the offender's participation in the crime may rise to the level of conspiracy. sound familiar? like i said... just get a lawyer. Last edited by anon-e-mouse; 02-06-2008 at 03:52 AM. Reason: merged posts
Posted by Confess, 02-06-2008, 03:16 AM
41 pages of bitching? You guys need a life.
Posted by twenty4web, 02-06-2008, 03:19 AM
whoa ... theres one now!
Posted by Kingfish85, 02-06-2008, 03:21 AM
who is aiding and abetting?and how? and who is a minor?
Posted by twenty4web, 02-06-2008, 03:21 AM
and on that note.......goodnight!
Posted by Kingfish85, 02-06-2008, 03:23 AM
Tell me, who is aiding & abetting?how? who is a minor?
Posted by twenty4web, 02-06-2008, 03:26 AM
why are you asking me questions? I suggested a lawyer, they usually help or can give you answers to that sort of things. Do you have Trexhost Customers Data? and the reason i state that is because your playing "Business" with kids... AKA minors. Last edited by anon-e-mouse; 02-06-2008 at 03:48 AM. Reason: merged posts
Posted by Kingfish85, 02-06-2008, 03:28 AM
No we have no data.
Posted by twenty4web, 02-06-2008, 03:32 AM
You guys did "HUGE" file transfers.. What data did you get?
Posted by anon-e-mouse, 02-06-2008, 03:58 AM
Why do you have the same IP as Mike?
Posted by Steve_Arm, 02-06-2008, 04:58 AM
Which Mike in that case? Mike H or Mike O?
Posted by build-a-host, 02-06-2008, 05:09 AM
Wow, glad I bailed out when I did!
Posted by anon-e-mouse, 02-06-2008, 05:33 AM
Mike H. I'm not sure who Mike O is, as I haven't been following this thread too much.
Posted by orangewebhosting0net, 02-06-2008, 06:39 AM
sorry to quote such a old post not really keeping it up because this seems like a overblown playground argument mixed in with a mothers meeting but this really made me laugh, maybe he was stalking one of the many mikes or maybe customers or maybe even you!!!! haha
Posted by JLHC, 02-06-2008, 07:10 AM
Why are you not stating how were you screwed to him? I got a feeling that you are getting personal with RWW...
Posted by JohnJ, 02-06-2008, 08:09 AM
Perhaps Mike created a new account because he is afraid to use his other one, or, maybe someone created an account from their IP and is letting him use it. You're a moderator, make the call!
Posted by JohnJ, 02-06-2008, 08:10 AM
I stole a candy bar once... didn't get to eat it though.
Posted by AHFBWEB, 02-06-2008, 08:40 AM
For the same reason he bailed when he got caught, for the same reason Kyle had the "I am going to revive trexhost" thread removed wehen I pointed out his impersonating another member here. Because the thread has more pages than the entire lot have IQ points.
Posted by Brian-de-vie, 02-06-2008, 08:48 AM
You forgot to mention employing Mike H WHILST he was employed by Trexhost, you the wiser older business man could not see you were putting Mike H in an intolerable conflict of interest, position (he's young enough to be daft), you should have known better. ps. welcome newbie, to WHT, the forum for web hosting professionals !
Posted by jrcdude, 02-06-2008, 08:55 AM
Holy crap, now the story gets even more interesting. Sounds like Identity Theft/Impersonation to me?
Posted by Brian-de-vie, 02-06-2008, 08:56 AM
I've raised that several times, it smells rotten, softlayer have the wisdom to keep out of this. But at some stage they will have to say something. PayPal[$800 of James money used by Mike O] have also avoided getting envolved, but WHT seem to have closed James's WHT membership, a Mike o had taken it over.
Posted by AHFBWEB, 02-06-2008, 08:58 AM
That is what his little friend KyleB325 in this thread http://www.webhostingtalk.com/showthread.php?t=669044 Maybe he is the same person too lol. He says he is not a child but it is obvious he too needs parental supervision.
Posted by Brian-de-vie, 02-06-2008, 10:19 AM
I strongly recommended Mike H contact a lawyer at the begining of his 'appearance'. I think all parties have just been unprofessional in the extreem & left themselves wide open for legal action.
Posted by Brian-de-vie, 02-06-2008, 10:24 AM
Well they were able to fund $1000 without help from Mike o / Jaimes, to keep the servers up while they 'transfered' data (no us data protection ?). So I think it's highly unlikey they could afford to protect themselves from any legal action, let alone initiate it.
Posted by Brian-de-vie, 02-06-2008, 10:28 AM
Yes, I think we worked that out, shame those 'lot of problems' could & should have been avoided, just needed a little honesty, integrity, professionalism, maturity, common sense, business sense, loyalty, openess. But...................................................................
Posted by Brian-de-vie, 02-06-2008, 10:31 AM
Concern for 'our industrie's' reputation, is part of our life.
Posted by Brian-de-vie, 02-06-2008, 10:38 AM
You are a wise mouse. My simplified understanding: Mike O was/is James co-owner of trexhost, has requested a week to resolve things. [was going to RWW but did not, when they were told he was lazy]. That was followed by the servers going off line. Mike H works/ed for both trexhost & rww, Brent is his 'grown up' boss at RWW, so he would prob. share the same family PC / IP. That may help, or just confuse you further ?
Posted by Brian-de-vie, 02-06-2008, 10:44 AM
I don't want to read minds, but I would guess that his view is that, hundreds of Trexhost customers have been, or appear to have been at least 'messed up' by the 'Shananikins' of RWW. Hundreds of cutomers messed up, reflects poorly on 'our industry'.
Posted by Brian-de-vie, 02-06-2008, 10:47 AM
Frustrated typo, I meant UnAble to fund ................... Sorry, but it's only a little typo, so it's not realy a typo, is it
Posted by Brian-de-vie, 02-06-2008, 10:53 AM
Hi Bob, your wise enough to steer clear of this I'm sure. Check out my post 566, but the 'Story' changes more often than I have cups of coffee. someone came in at about 500, they said it took them a couple of hours to read. I'm seriously considering going back to kicking the cat.
Posted by bear, 02-06-2008, 12:29 PM
Once more, off topic, and this time cleaned a bit. If we've run out of things to discuss on this topic, we can close it.
Posted by BluewaveHosted, 02-06-2008, 12:33 PM
Just called SL and they say all questions about Trex should be directed to their Vice President and no answer will be given to individuals by sales/tech agents. I think, as bear, is time to end this topic, but leave it here, as many google searches for trexhost arrive here.
Posted by Brian-de-vie, 02-06-2008, 12:48 PM
I'd say Lock this thread - Except, I realy think thats what Mike O, Brent, Mike H and others want to happen. That would give them the perfect excuse NOT to come back and post a 'real appology' for there handling of this whole affair. Come on guys, come back, say your realy sorry, you missmanaged the situation and yourselves. Once done, the pain will ease. But come back with more BS, and the pain will continue.
Posted by EEssam, 02-06-2008, 01:41 PM
Does that mean if for some reason I don't pay my bill to SoftLayer, SOFTLAYER WILL SELL MY CLIENTS!?
Posted by BluewaveHosted, 02-06-2008, 02:11 PM
No, SL will simply shut down the servers.
Posted by EEssam, 02-06-2008, 02:23 PM
Then why it sold TrexHost servers?
Posted by BluewaveHosted, 02-06-2008, 02:27 PM
They didn't. Read the whole thread....yeah, I know, a very long one indeed, but you will get the picture....or whatever the picture that was presented here.....
Posted by EEssam, 02-06-2008, 02:40 PM
Choosing another provider to be in the safe side is easier than reading 42 page thread.
Posted by Mike Hobgood, 02-06-2008, 03:32 PM
I honestly just wish I knew who ExTrex was. He won't give us any ticket reference numbers, for Trex OR for RWW, he won't disclose his name, email, or anything, yet continuously is bashing us. As for the same IP, I have logged into WHT before from Brents house, however, only once. So our main IP's should be different. Please look into this further. This thread should be closed in my opinion.
Posted by gopzap, 02-06-2008, 03:41 PM
Although I think that we should not close this thread (since people are still discussing), I think there is hardly anything left to discuss anymore unless MikeO or someone comes and gives some explanations. After 40 pages of posting, I think it would be a bit lame to continue to argue about things. We just need to all co-operate and sort out any remaining problems. I know that RWW will co-operate, but I'm not sure if MikeO will - he's disappeared for a while, formatted TrexHost's servers and stolen $200. He needs some explaining to do.
Posted by Brian-de-vie, 02-06-2008, 03:42 PM
Wiser yes, easier ? I doubt it, unless you want to risk ending up in the same situation 12 months on.
Posted by Brian-de-vie, 02-06-2008, 03:51 PM
Your communication skills make me laugh - ANY - REMAINING -
Posted by Mike Hobgood, 02-06-2008, 03:51 PM
Mike Ousley is no where to be found. I have been calling him daily by phone, emailing him, etc, in an attempt to get my 200$ back and figure out what(and why) he did to the servers. He is no where to be found. Mike O.'s mistakes have costed me hundreds now, as well as thousands in potential clients, data, etc. Please try yourselves to get ahold of Mike @ 606-226-8832 and if you are able to, tell him he needs to get online now.
Posted by Scott.Mc, 02-06-2008, 03:57 PM
Here was me thinking the school holidays are over.
Posted by Brian-de-vie, 02-06-2008, 04:02 PM
Would the school be 'Saint Jokalot's School' ? I never would have thought any body else would dissappear like that, bl**dy aliens again. Mike H, if you think you have a case with Mike O, go visit him, or his boss James, the rumour that James was unreachable was just that, a rumour. Last edited by Brian-de-vie; 02-06-2008 at 04:05 PM.
Posted by gopzap, 02-06-2008, 04:20 PM
What was the point of that post? Do I have to think about every single word carefully so that little kids don't make every attempt to get attention by reporting un-needed words in my post and think it's funny that I said an extra un-required word that hardly makes a difference? To be honest with you, I don't even understand why you even bother with such posts... No one 'understands' your joke, no one finds it funny. This thread is going TOO off-topic, this is a serious thread about TrexHost's situations, and people are making lame jokes about non-required words that hardly make any difference. ("Any" remaining.) Or maybe I don't understand your joke? What's so funny about the phrase "Any remaining"? Last edited by gopzap; 02-06-2008 at 04:23 PM.
Posted by Brian-de-vie, 02-06-2008, 04:46 PM
Gopzap, I'm not commenting on either your english or your grammer, don't give a monkey's. It's your perception of the situation that is unbelievable, and your attempt to communicate that to the readers. I refrained from commenting on the otherthings you said in that post, but: Any Remaining Problems, just had me in stitches. How exactly do you think either trexhost or rww are going to 'fix' things. You simply can't unscamble an egg. But many thanks for calling me a little kid, at 'over 50' I don't get that compliment very often.
Posted by bear, 02-06-2008, 04:58 PM
And with that we've gone off topic once again. In lieu of some breaking news or announcements from the principals in this thread, it's being closed for now. Those directly involved feel free to contact the helpdesk and request it be reopened if you have something of importance to add. /thread.