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Posted by dominik699, 02-27-2010, 06:01 PM
Hello, I am searching for an Master Reseller Account. Important: - it must be reliable (shouldn't suspend the account without reason) - pretty fast - small plans for beginning - bigger plans to grow Would be glad if anybody could post resellers you have a good experience with. Thanks a lot Dominik
Posted by njoker555, 02-27-2010, 07:06 PM
I would generally advise against master resellers because most likely, the server is oversold and if the host doesn't manage it properly, the clients suffer. And for all you know, your host could be an alpha master reseller. And it's just too many levels to go through to get any decent support. If you want to offer reseller packages yourself, I'd recommend you get a VPS or dedicated server. The reliability and stability is far better with vps/dedicated than master resellers.
Posted by MyLabuan, 02-27-2010, 07:06 PM
Hi, Why not go for VPS? It's more easier to handle and control everything if you compare to Master reseller..
Posted by dominik699, 02-27-2010, 07:21 PM
hi thanks for your tips. i know that the performane of master reselling is not the best. But I want to sell reseller accounts to webdesigners. more about my plan you can read in the following thread: showthread.php?t=929863 I know that the performance of an vps is better, but then i have to setup everything myself. I don't want to do this at the moment. I have found one: aquariusstorage What do you think? Greatings
Posted by njoker555, 02-27-2010, 07:22 PM
You don't have to set up everything. If you get a managed or even a semi-managed VPS, your host can set up everything up for you initially. Like cPanel and all the basics you need to run. As for aquariusstorage, I have no exp with them but they should have some reviews here. Feel free to search them.
Posted by MyLabuan, 02-27-2010, 07:25 PM
For easier way, go for Managed VPS, everything will be setup for you and if you have any problem, just open the support tickets and they look and solve your problem..and you can focus on your business.
Posted by dominik699, 02-27-2010, 07:26 PM
could you recomend an vps please? -about 30gb and 300gb bandwith to start -and then the possibility to upgrade.... -cpanel and master reseller accounts set up
Posted by njoker555, 02-27-2010, 07:27 PM
You want to offer master reseller accounts ? I would advise against that as well because you'd only put yourself and your server at risk of being oversold, not by you, but by the two levels of resellers under you. Check the VPS offers section, you should find something. What kind of a budget do you have? Note: most providers don't provide cPanel for free with VPS. Average price is around $15/month. And master reseller softwares are another license and I don't think any provider provides that with their vps packages. You'd probably have to supply the license yourself if you choose this path.
Posted by dominik699, 02-27-2010, 07:31 PM
Yes but when i limit the space of the reseller packages i sell to a minimum the danger that it gets oversold is not that high. So i will have to setup the master reselling plugin myself. is this a lot of work? greatings
Posted by njoker555, 02-27-2010, 07:35 PM
Probably not, I'm sure if you ask your host they'll help. I've never done it myself though.
Posted by Faris Aziz, 02-27-2010, 07:38 PM
Unmanaged VPS provider might not help you install any plugin unless your purchase it through them. Most Fully-Managed company or company which offer managed services should be able to help you install 3rd parties softwares.
Posted by dominik699, 02-27-2010, 07:38 PM
i always thought when i have a vps I have full root acess to the server and have to do everything myself. Then I also have full responsibility over the server. I have basic knowlede of linux but I cannot guarantee that this server is 100% save against hackers. That's the reason I was looking for a reseller account. greatings
Posted by Faris Aziz, 02-27-2010, 07:42 PM
If you have enough budget, you should go for MANAGED VPS or VPS with Management services. They will take care of your servers for you and will install anything you want. Based on my experiences, I feel I've gain more experiences by starting by a VPS.
Posted by dominik699, 02-27-2010, 07:48 PM
you are certainly right but i think for me the reseller hosting is the better thing to start. I have very low budget now. When things start working and I have my first customers I can think about this again. Can you backup the data from an reseller account easily, so that I can move?
Posted by KMyers, 02-27-2010, 07:49 PM
Greetings,
Posted by Faris Aziz, 02-27-2010, 07:49 PM
If you're currently in a cPanel account, it would be easy as a pie to move accounts. and Yes, start off a small and turn big
Posted by dominik699, 02-27-2010, 07:52 PM
for me its clear that for good service and reliable hosting you will have to pay a fair price. I have found two hosts at the master reselling hosts at the moment: aquarius storage - in the forum some thing it is good, others say it is bad and magmahost.com - most of the people think it is bad. does anyone know any other hosts? what do you think about the two above?
Posted by Faris Aziz, 02-27-2010, 07:54 PM
I have no experiences with any of this two host. But I have a reseller account with EZPZ Hosting. You get free domain, free upgrades, free SSL and also additional access to WHMPHP(which enables you to resell reseller) http://www.webhostingtalk.com/showthread.php?t=910481
Posted by dominik699, 02-27-2010, 08:07 PM
thanks for the recomondation. do you host on usa or uk servers. Is the support good and the server stable? how long do you host with them. greatings and goodnight (in austria it is 1am)
Posted by Faris Aziz, 02-27-2010, 08:10 PM
US, Los Angeles server(This is a new location offered by them) Their support respond times will usually be less than 1 Hour and I can say that their server is super stable. My site loads faster in their server rather than my VPS. I've been a customer for almost a week. Oh ya, they even offer FREE WHMCS or CLIENTEXE license which cost about $15 monthly.
Posted by dominik699, 02-28-2010, 05:57 AM
sounds pretty good, although a week is not that long :-), who knows what will happen does anybody know anything about the server in uk, for me this would be more intresting, since I am from europe greatings
Posted by mellow-h, 02-28-2010, 07:43 AM
A VPS box has less possibility to overload by the provider when a master reseller provider has possibility to have around 1 Million httpd.conf entries even if they don't provide unlimited space/bandwidth. Facing such situation would be really tough for any master reseller provider when the issue will arise after 2/3 years. Moreover, VPS overloading is restricted based on the container which allows the customer to be more secure from overloading by other shared users (when the value is really high). Cpanel itself suggests not to host more than 1000 distinct cpanel accounts under same server as the whole technology of cpanel isn't made based on such number of accounts. You might have a good number of cpu,memory and IO power, but cpanel can perform weird when the account grows to huge and multiple users using WHM to create, modify, terminate, suspend accounts and system quotas.
Posted by AquariusStorage, 02-28-2010, 12:15 PM
Can you cite this 1,000 account limit where cPanel has verified this please?
Posted by mellow-h, 02-28-2010, 12:19 PM
It should clearly say "Suggests", not "limits". This was informed to me by the cpanel level 3 technicians when I asked for some suggestion regarding improving the apache graceful restarts and cpanel accounts caches.
Posted by dominik699, 02-28-2010, 01:16 PM
hello, i believe you that vps is certainly better and they don't get overloaded that easily. But firstly they are more work and more expensive. I think the reseller account from ezpz are all master reseller accounts and I mainly read good things about them in the forum. Does anybody host at ezpz? are they overloaded? Any other suggestions for master reseller accounts?
Posted by CDDHosting, 02-28-2010, 07:11 PM
I got to agree with that. Master resellers cause problems and no wonder many web hosts servers crash the accounts just spiral out of control.