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Posted by avishkar, 11-29-2011, 02:41 AM
Dear WHTians, I am here for more than a month. A newbie from INDIA seeking for a perfect Reseller plan. Here I found lots of Reseller Providers offering various kinds of plans and Now I have to chose one from them according to My Budget. BUT the thing is that, I am in DOUBT to chose which plan suits BEST for me as per my need. I am a WEBDESIGNER who get around 50-100 websites a year and I offer HOSTING plan along with website as a package. I DONT have a COMPANY Website yet (Though I am a web designer SO I AM NOT PLANNING TO SELL HOSTING ONLINE through my website. I dont want my customer to register domains through the Supersite associated with my site. HERE I will register the domain and provide required Hosting with it and sell it at MY OWN price. FOR those, who want only Domain + Hosting, I will register it and send the FTP and Cpanel details to their mail. They will pay me manually or through electronically as directed by me. I am sure I get 50-100 domains a year. SO THIS is the situation. So I dont actually need billing software like WHMCS. BUT I do want other facilities like WHM/CPANEL, FULLY PRIVATE LABEL HOSTING,DECENT UPTIME,SUPPORT etc. MY BUDGET is RS.4000 a year. SO FRIENDS, PLEASE GUIDE ME TO CHOSE A PERFECT PLAN SUITABLE FOR MY NEED.
Posted by CrocWeb, 11-29-2011, 02:56 AM
Your budget: 4,000.00 INR/yr = 77.0237 USD/yr How much diskspace/bandwidth do you think you would require? Also do you have a preferred location?
Posted by avishkar, 11-29-2011, 03:05 AM
I think I need 30 GB with overselling option. I am in India and all my clients are in India. Server Location UK/USA.
Posted by JFSG, 11-29-2011, 06:27 AM
Impossible to get a decent one with your budget.
Posted by avishkar, 11-29-2011, 06:27 AM
Please guide. I need to start it in December...
Posted by avishkar, 11-29-2011, 06:31 AM
but I got somany PM here from Indian providers offering Unlimited Reseller hosting..
Posted by avishkar, 11-29-2011, 06:33 AM
but I got somany PM here from Indian providers offering Unlimited Reseller hosting..
Posted by Vinayak_Sharma, 11-29-2011, 06:45 AM
First you should report those PMs to the moderators, it is against the rules. Secondly your approach and budget is flawed. Do some calculations, let's say you get 50 clients in a year and you charge INR 500.00 each (I am sure you will be charging much more than that), 50x500 = Rs. 25000.00. So you can surely have a better budget. When you want stability and reliability, you have to signup with a provider with good reputation, and they do cost more. So, check the providers, check reputation and reviews, shortlist, see which one meets your needs and if you are willing to pay their price. Going with a cheap provider you are bound to spend much much more than what you will be paying to a good reputed provider who had been in the industry for a good number of years.
Posted by avishkar, 11-29-2011, 06:56 AM
Dear Sir, As I stated in my post, I am not doing the reseller business in Full Fledged as I am only offering hosting to my clients, and also I am not planning to sell hosting through a company website... So, is my budget too much low for my requirement??
Posted by avishkar, 11-29-2011, 06:59 AM
At present all my websites scattered around with different Hosting people.. I want to gather it altogether in one area.
Posted by Vinayak_Sharma, 11-29-2011, 07:35 AM
Whether you are reselling hosting online through a website or reselling to your webdesign clients, you are reselling hosting. You yourself have mentioned that you get between 50 to 100 clients a year, and I took the lower figure from there. Since you design websites and have direct clients, you will have much more difficulties to explain downtime, loss of data etc to your clients as they know you personally. To avoid such situations and to provide quality services, so that they remain with you for many years to come, better invest in quality products and services. Because hosting is a recurring income while design work is mostly one time, so with every passing year your hosting client base will be increasing, hence your income through them
Posted by XTremo, 11-29-2011, 10:07 AM
As Vinayak said....report them! And post their names up here because they obviously can't be trusted.
Posted by avishkar, 11-29-2011, 10:18 AM
As my budget is INR.4000 Which is not enough for quality hosting, Can you please tell me an affordable slab, an yearly amount I should consider for getting Quality Reseller Hosting?
Posted by Vinayak_Sharma, 11-29-2011, 10:51 AM
With Rs. 4000/- its hard to get something good for the amount of space you are seeking. Better do some calculations again, collect all the stats from your existing client accounts, see how much total space is being used, how much total bandwidth, what is your growth rate so that you can predict how much actual space is going to be required at the end of the year. And it is possible you budget is tight as of now, may be few months down the line you have more money, so consider paying monthly, less money to start with while being sustainable and less money at risk. BTW will you be able to buy from a foreign host using credit card or paypal, or are you looking for an Indian company only?
Posted by avishkar, 11-29-2011, 10:58 AM
Actually I dont have International Credit Card. I only have VISA/Maestro debit cards and Net banking accounts. That's why I was looking for Indian providers or Foreign companies that offer service in India. Other than HostGator.in, can you provide names of such companies?
Posted by Vinayak_Sharma, 11-29-2011, 11:08 AM
Check http://www.hostdime.in/web-hosting/reseller/ they are quite reputed and have presence in India too, though you will have to stretch your budget a bit. I hope you will be able to manage your budget by paying monthly.
Posted by avishkar, 11-29-2011, 12:45 PM
HostDime is providing India and US based services. Which one is best in your opinion? US based plans are cheap.BTW what is the Dedicated IP address in Reseller Hosting? They dont provide it in basic pack. Can I customise the nameservers without dedicated IP address?
Posted by Vinayak_Sharma, 11-29-2011, 12:54 PM
For you budget India based hosting is not an option. And you do not need dedicated IP for nameservers, your provider will guide you to setup your account.
Posted by avishkar, 11-29-2011, 01:29 PM
IF I take hosting plan from a foreign provider, do I need International Credit/Debit Cards for Registering Domain Names? For Eg. if I take HostDime.in reseller Account, Can I register domains via Netbanking/other Indian payment system? What is the system for Domain Registration, after setting up a reseller hostin g plan?
Posted by Vinayak_Sharma, 11-29-2011, 01:45 PM
Check what payment methods are available with them, you can ask their sales these questions directly, they are better person to answer such queries. For domain registration it is not necessary to book with the same provider and mostly it is recommended to register domain from another provider, keep both the things separate.
Posted by kevin8008, 11-29-2011, 10:36 PM
justhost.com offers a great reseller plan. That is what i use. Just start with the starter plan (you can upgrade at any time) and as your business grows you can upgrade to the greater plans as needed by your customer base Last edited by kevin8008; 11-29-2011 at 10:49 PM.
Posted by avishkar, 11-30-2011, 01:47 AM
I heard that Reseller Club's Domain Plan is very good although their hosting is not up to the mark. Is there any other good provider for Domains only? DO you know about RC's domain plan pricing??
Posted by kpmedia, 11-30-2011, 07:36 AM
You'll want to pay about $240/year for a good reseller host. That's $20/monthly. Not sure what that is in rupees -- look at xe.com for conversion.
Posted by MNCHOST - Chris, 11-30-2011, 07:54 AM
I think ,$77 Per year is not good Price to get atleast good Reseller Plan, atleast the reseller Package should contain 25GB Space and 100GB bandwidth,I will suggest you to raise your price Limit because if anyone offer you at this price and the reseller package with stable server(not oversold in background) ,then you are lucky ..As others said here ,you should First try that reseller hosting for one month ,then pay for year ...
Posted by avishkar, 12-01-2011, 12:57 PM
What if I want to offer Reseller Plans to my customers? My doubt is whether these Reseller plans offered by HostDime will be enough for that? What are the points to look for when seeking a Master Reseller Plan? PLs guide..
Posted by kpmedia, 12-01-2011, 01:20 PM
Master Reseller is a pyramid scheme of hosting. If your customer wants something you cannot offer (without using schemes to make it happen), then they simply cannot be your customer. If you want to compete with HostDime, then buy servers and offer reseller plans, too -- that's what they did.
Posted by avishkar, 12-01-2011, 01:25 PM
I can see many small providers offering Reseller plans to their customers, how do they?
Posted by MNCHOST - Chris, 12-01-2011, 01:28 PM
I used the HostDime India "USA Plan" where the server situated in Orlando..I will suggest ,Please don't go with that plan..There servers in Orlando for Indians are really D Graded...I faced more than 40 times Downtime(of 1 minute each) in only 3 days after my order .When i placed ticket,HD told that they don't believe in 3rd Party Monitoring..I told OK,I will monitor it myself (realtime) and i got what i want ! In my Home/Office only,HD was down 3 times in 30 minutes monitoring by refreshing the page in 3-4 minutes.Plus there are oversolds..Indian Servers are much better in HD....
Posted by avishkar, 12-01-2011, 01:34 PM
HostDime is not offering Master Reseller with the Normal plans. We have to opt their VPS plan for that. Can you tell me some good plans where I can also get master reseller option. What I mean by Master Reseller is that I have to offer reseller plans to my clients.
Posted by MNCHOST - Chris, 12-01-2011, 01:39 PM
yea,I know,can you please tell your configurations and price limit so that i can help u more ??
Posted by HostDime, 12-01-2011, 01:58 PM
I apologize for any issues you have seen, we haven't had any other comments about other clients in these servers experiencing these issues. It is possible the firewall was blocking your specific location IP. Do you have a ticket # where you were helped so i can check for you? This is an IP of one of our servers in USA for HDIN based reseller plans, 199.168.189.177 you can test from your location and see if it shows down.
Posted by Vinayak_Sharma, 12-01-2011, 02:08 PM
Hari, I will suggest take one step at a time, and plan for future growth. Master/Alpha reseller plans are not a good thing, that's my personal view. First you decide how you want to start and how you want to grow, since you mentioned you have low, very low, budget and any goof up will make you fall very badly. If you believe in quality, better get a plain simple reseller account from a reputed company/provider and plan your growth from there. Keep your direct clients and resellers (in future) on separate servers/accounts. No offense, but right now I do not think you you have good enough knowledge of hosting operations, so better stay put with a reseller account for the clients you mentioned in your opening post and once you have more experience, knowledge and money, move up to a good VPS to offer reseller accounts to start with.
Posted by MNCHOST - Chris, 12-01-2011, 02:15 PM
Please HD ,leave this matter for now.I don't want to show here all Proof regarding your "USA hosting" .The ip u mentioned above is surely ip of good server,but the ips starting with 66.7.*.* are really D Graded servers.
Posted by MNCHOST - Chris, 12-01-2011, 02:17 PM
I agreed .Master Reseller Plan is not so much stable for any server.I will also advice you to take Reseller plan with trusted webhost .(first try it for month ,then pay annually ).
Posted by mayank, 12-01-2011, 02:27 PM
Better to go with hostdime because they are best on planet in all area support and service yea on uptime aswell i never had issue with them i am on dedicated server with hostdime from last two year and i really like them cause i really had good experience with them
Posted by MNCHOST - Chris, 12-01-2011, 02:30 PM
You are with India Plans(hosted in India only ) ?? I know,HD is best for support,but not totally for servers !Some servers are good ,some are fair.
Posted by HostDime Dennis, 12-01-2011, 02:31 PM
Our 66.7.*.* IP Range consists a very large percentage of our entire datacenter, which I would hasten to say most on these forums and of our over half a million clients have overall very few issues with. We really cannot "leave this matter" when you are saying our services are "D Graded" without doing some investigation into your claims. Please provide me a ticket ID that I can look into so I can verify this claim and ensure that any issues you experienced were properly addressed, and are not effecting other clients at this time. Thank you,
Posted by mayank, 12-01-2011, 02:36 PM
Nope i am with hostdime USA and Indian Branch is New
Posted by HostDime, 12-01-2011, 02:38 PM
In addition to what Dennis said, if there is an issue with the server you are on we are happy to look into the issue and solve it. We take great pride in our services. We are not perfect, no host is and all have their own issues. However when your host cares they do their best to solve and this is what we care about I hope you see our intentions are only to help, nothing else
Posted by MNCHOST - Chris, 12-01-2011, 02:40 PM
k,If you want to Open this matter in front of WHT ,then what can i do ? Ticket id is :[Ticket: 310424] Title :Website is Going Up and Down.. Now ,I Leaved HostDime due to this only . Please note ,I gave all Proof to do justification of my complaints when your support team not believed me! They even try to Pretext on every Responses and nothing.Even at the time of Downtime,due to your best support,i instantly open live chat and live told the matter ...They believed in there error and Finally after 40 responses from my side in 3 days ,you agreed that the error is from your side and told me that we are going to shifting server(see ticket) as this server is oversold. Please WHT,HD is good(or i can say Best) ,there support is A+ ,Some servers in US are also A graded,for Indians,the allocation of US servers are D Graded !! .Please find other review about this in WHT also. Close this matter now HD ,I am your well-wisher as well as with WHT ,so i told the truth here.!
Posted by avishkar, 12-01-2011, 10:47 PM
Hi, Mnchost have provided the ticket id and other details...Hope you have made an enquiry in that matter.
Posted by HostDime, 12-02-2011, 12:58 AM
Of course we are doing an internal investigation and addressing it with him personally. As mentioned above, we are not perfect but we will always make things right for our clients.
Posted by swatkats, 12-02-2011, 06:31 AM
I have also the same opinion about usa plan which hostdime India sells. Apart from this.. The Connectivity is so freaking bad to USA Servers in Orlando Esp the one's sold by hostdime india. One of my friend has an server hosting in Hostdime USA which he purchased from Hostdime USA which is GOOD. With every aspect No downtime/ Connectivity issues. Hostdime India USA Servers Suck!
Posted by swatkats, 12-02-2011, 06:34 AM
Check my Review post about Hostdime india USA Server mate : http://www.webhostingtalk.com/showth...e+india+review That time i didn't speak up about these server cos i felt i have no work with them in future but as some one has come up with the same issue. I felt i should i comment something now. I am sure what Hostdime India Sells as "USA PLANS" are Probably old Servers and the Quality is bad. I personally never faced problem while uploading Files to any USA Server but i had problem with USA server with ip range 66.7.xx.xx Sold by Hostdime India. 99Bucks- 100GB and 500 GB bandwidth gave me a Real picture but i wanted to try it once and there i go it solves my doubts Last edited by swatkats; 12-02-2011 at 06:41 AM.
Posted by swatkats, 12-02-2011, 06:53 AM
And i am here to say something more. Hostdime.com Which is hosted on ip Range 72.29.xx.xx Loads way faster than Hostdime.in 66.7.203.xx ( the difference is 5seconds). I don't Know what may be the problem. but surely I can tell you one thing. 66.7.xx Series servers are BAD! Hostdime India(hostdime.in) site loads slowly but Hostdime USA(hostdime.com) loads way faster which on other ip range(72.xx.xx.xx). WHT'ians please cross check the same Try loading booth sites and post here
Posted by swatkats, 12-02-2011, 06:55 AM
are you refering hostdime.com or Hostdime.co.uk? I love Hostdime.com Support. simply Superb!
Posted by swatkats, 12-04-2011, 02:09 AM
Bump! So hostdime Guys No Response from you guys?
Posted by mayank, 12-04-2011, 03:12 AM
i am refering hostdime.com
Posted by swatkats, 12-04-2011, 03:35 AM
yes hostdime.com +1 to hostdime, Should i come to an conclusion that your Hostdime India USA servers are quality wise cheap? Last edited by swatkats; 12-04-2011 at 03:50 AM.
Posted by HostDime Dennis, 12-04-2011, 09:53 AM
As stated previously, we are investigating the single server on which you were hosted and our Global Operations Manager should be following up with you via your ticket soon to further explain the situation. Please do note this was a single server having a few load issues, which you shouldn't conclude that ever single server on a particular IP range is slow from. Thank you,
Posted by HostDime, 12-04-2011, 06:35 PM
This is not correct, all our shared servers get the same quality hardware. If you check the server specs you can confirm this is the case. However it is possible that the server you are on has an abuser which is causing the issues. We are checking that and will remove the abuser if this is the case. However we do not use old servers at all on any of our current shared/reseller servers and the quality (not cheap or old hardware) is the same as our USA shared/reseller servers. Both those sites and ip's are on the same network. Please paste a traceroute so we can see if they both route for you the same way. We have thousands of servers in our network with 66.7.xx that doesn't mean they all have issues. You can't assume this based on 1 out of thousands of servers on this range.