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Posted by farahjira, 02-29-2012, 10:19 AM
I contacted the company because my account was suspended without any notification. The answer was "Your account was causing high server load and got suspended by our load managing system. I have unsuspended it now.". The person answering was Alex Johnson (of course it's a fake name, the guy is Indian, not a US citizen). So I asked for a detailed explanation as to what was causing said load (I am running a wordpress installation with about 200 visits/day). He had none. I then told them to never suspend my account without a notification especially since they have no explanation or logs to provide. Then I was quoted their terms of service which gave them all the rights to my account and money, and myself as client the middle finger. So I proceeded in an exchange of emails in which I called him on his lie that my account was using whatever resources and that he shouldn't be suspending my account just for kicks. He then threatened he would suspend my account if I didn't shut up. Which he did. So now my account is suspended for over 30 days and their support department is not answering, neither is their sales department. Which means, this whole company is run by one retarded indian who calls himself Alex Johnson. My account is still suspended as of right now and no refund issued. It's end of Feb 2012. Good luck hosting anything but an HTML file with less than 5 visitors per day, and every time something goes wrong you will have to wait it out until it gets fixed because if you say or ask anything your account will get suspended and you won't get a refund. Ever. Netmagics dot com is a worst service provider on Planet Earth right now. ____________________________ Here's what I have on him so far, in case someone is interested in paying him a friendly visit for the money he stole from them. So, now that we know each other Indian thief, how about a refund or an unsuspend you pathetic excuse for a human being? Burn in hell for every penny you stole from me; burn for 9,000 years. Last edited by Quartz; 04-13-2012 at 01:12 AM.
Posted by smerrikin, 02-29-2012, 04:25 PM
Lol. That is all. Edit: Not laughing at you. Laughing that he still lives with his parents and a bunch o other things from his bio. Good work Last edited by smerrikin; 02-29-2012 at 04:26 PM. Reason: Clarify
Posted by Collabora, 02-29-2012, 04:38 PM
He did what any reputable host would do: protect his server and customers from sites like yours. If you have a problem with that stay off of shared accounts and get your own server. If you had cooperated instead of throwing a hissy fit with support your site would be running
Posted by farahjira, 02-29-2012, 04:58 PM
I'm going to tell you two things that will upset you: 1. Your credibility as a host has just dropped below zero. You assume that a 200 visit per day Wordpress installation would actually have an impact on a server - that tells me you've never run a Wordpress installation or are ignorant about its resource needs. Additionally, I greatly exaggerated the amount of visits per day. They actually under 15/day on average - 3,341 divided by 8 months, divided by 28 days. If you're interested in actual daily numbers, here they are: pastie[dot]org/private/d5fnfbirtkmdysyhoun9sq 2. You are a spineless, money-stealing host too if you find netmagics' action of suspending a client's account without reason or refund "reputable". If you wish to have the last backup of aoetrainer[dot]co[dot]cc including the SQL to do your little performance tests on it I'd be more than happy to post that too. I believe in complete transparency and in honesty and integrity. That's why I work for my money, and when I pay for a service I care whether that service is being rendered or I'm being taken for a ride. Can you say you'd react differently if you were I? Additionally, if you wish to read my "hissy fit" via that email exchange, I'd be more than happy to post that too. Sorry for the bitch slap, but you were begging for it.
Posted by euronet063, 02-29-2012, 05:01 PM
dont know how much time use netmagics,i use their services long time,and maybe small problems,nothing big,but if you cause problem and not solve with them,why you give us personal data from owner,i see dat hi hawe Bachelor's Degree for me one plus for use their services in future. totally agree with Collabora "He did what any reputable host would do: protect his server and customers from sites like yours. If you have a problem with that stay off of shared accounts and get your own server. If you had cooperated instead of throwing a hissy fit with support your site would be running"
Posted by farahjira, 02-29-2012, 05:05 PM
That's alright even if you were laughing at me I know, it's pathetic. I'm so tempted to pay some boys $200 to give him a little taste of his own blood but I'll wait it out a bit and see if he has the guts to come out here and clear things up and do right by my investment.
Posted by farahjira, 02-29-2012, 05:09 PM
I'm glad you have no issues with Netmagics. I do, so... what do you suggest I do? Just kiss my money good bye? By the way, read up on the actual usage of that wordpress website. I don't think I was causing any issues personally. No error logs were present, and aoetrainer.co.cc was the only thing I hosted on that account - which had an unlimited amount of domains and stuff. Point is, I paid for a service and it was suspended without a real reason. It's just that I called him on his ******** and he couldn't prove it. That's why he got pissed and simply suspended my account. Which is fine you know, but at least refund me. I don't want to feed a retarded Indian who lives with his mom. Been to India, know how hard of a life it is, but that doesn't justify stealing based on how much you like a client or not.
Posted by Collabora, 02-29-2012, 05:11 PM
Your $5.49 investment?
Posted by farahjira, 02-29-2012, 05:16 PM
Here's the third thing that will upset you: 3. It is not okay to steal money even if it is just $5.49. Don't know where you're from, but in the US that's almost the minimum hourly wage. I have to wash dishes at a restaurant for one hour before I can pay for that. If you have so much money you don't find $5.49 important, then why don't you offer me some hosting for free for the rest of my life? I promise I'll only host that 1 blog. Figured it was worth a shot.
Posted by euronet063, 02-29-2012, 05:16 PM
You abuse server and expect someone to return you the money? good joke
Posted by farahjira, 02-29-2012, 05:20 PM
That's the problem. There was no abuse.
Posted by euronet063, 02-29-2012, 05:24 PM
How you know,in what program/cms is your site-joomla,wordpress,html?
Posted by farahjira, 02-29-2012, 05:27 PM
It's a wordpress with a theme from elegant themes, and 2 or 3 plugins. 1 plugin was share this post kind of plugin, second was attachment (so I can attach a file to a post) and a third was probably wordpress importer. The file I attached to the post was under 100K. I really doubt I could do any kind of damage with that small blog.
Posted by euronet063, 02-29-2012, 05:33 PM
type on google , wordpress high load on server, wordpress High Memory Usage dont meter is big or small every wp may cause problems when is not configured right,you think if you hawe litle visit dat that is important when cause problem,trust me is not.You may hawe 3 visitors but some wp plugin may cause to server go down.
Posted by Collabora, 02-29-2012, 05:35 PM
BTW, wht requires that you provide a domain name to validate that you are a legit customer. You can post it here or at the wht help desk
Posted by farahjira, 02-29-2012, 05:37 PM
Agreed. That was not my case. Want the backup of that wp installation to play with and see? You trust me, it was not my first rodeo, I checked for logged problems, there were none. I asked Alex Johnson to provide me more details so I can attempt to fix the issue and he had no explanation. Alex Johnson is the fake name this retarded indian is using as tech support.
Posted by euronet063, 02-29-2012, 05:39 PM
How you check for problems in logs if you are suspended?
Posted by farahjira, 02-29-2012, 05:41 PM
Hey man read for yourself. The domain name is mentioned plenty of times.
Posted by Collabora, 02-29-2012, 05:46 PM
OP is a liar?
Posted by farahjira, 02-29-2012, 05:48 PM
Well, like any web designer who has a clue, I have a dev machine on which I check for errors. Then I publish the website with the host and check for errors both with FireBug (remaining links to images that point to my dev machine -if any) in Mozilla and apache's error log that the host provides via cPanel (netmagics does not offer ssh access). Then once I see the website is fine, I leave it alone. Any more suspicions about me? Because I'll just attach my last backup of the wp installation for everyone to dissect if need be.
Posted by euronet063, 02-29-2012, 05:53 PM
You say dat you may check if you cause any problem on server ,with your bug system? and say you dont hawe ssh access!
Posted by farahjira, 02-29-2012, 05:55 PM
Is Collabora the way to go? Consider that it's run by one who has no clue what wordpress is, thinks that it is reputable for a host to suspend an account without proper documentation that the account is abusive, and thinks that losing $5.49 is perfectly okay and it isn't a big deal. You should have not replied to this my man, you're driving your credibility and image into the ground. I for one would never buy hosting from Collabora. Collabora sucks because you suck.
Posted by nehir, 02-29-2012, 05:58 PM
wth.. someone should delete the first post.. at least personal data.. I hope you will be warned of banned from this forum.
Posted by euronet063, 02-29-2012, 06:01 PM
I do not want to insulting like you the other (which is wrong)but i think dat you dont know anything about servers,hosting wordpress,if you hawe dev masnine to be shure dat your site is 100% ok,you may hawe same os like server,same plugins like server and more more things.I understand dat you think dat somewhone theft you,but i think dat you not hawe any experience like i said with hosting,servers compatibility, configuration.....
Posted by farahjira, 02-29-2012, 06:01 PM
I'm sorry, I took you for an intelligent human being who happens to know something about running a wordpress installation and deploying it with a host. My mistake. Here's some information for you: http://codex.wordpress.org/Installing_WordPress (how to install Wordpress) http://fuelyourcoding.com/simple-deb...ith-wordpress/ (how to debug your Wordpress installation) http://docs.cpanel.net/twiki/bin/vie...lDocs/ErrorLog (this is the feature cPanel offers to customers without ssh access. Although sometimes error logs are stored within the user's home and can be accessed via FTP) Happy learning.
Posted by farahjira, 02-29-2012, 06:04 PM
Let's leave that to the moderator(s) to decide. The way I see it, whether it is available here or on his own website, or everywhere else I posted it in the last 24 hours it doesn't matter. Stupid netmagics owner should know better than to post everything about himself including that he lives with his mom () for everyone to access.
Posted by euronet063, 02-29-2012, 06:16 PM
But how you say dat you are suspended and now say me how to see log in cpanel?
Posted by farahjira, 02-29-2012, 06:21 PM
I'm sorry, maybe you don't understand what I'm saying. Let me make it clear: I do the testing and error log checking at the time of publishing. You want your website working good, you want to make sure your links are set correctly, you want to make sure your images load and so on and so forth before you start making your website public. Have you never built a website before? Come on, it's not that hard to understand whether English is your main language or not.
Posted by euronet063, 02-29-2012, 06:25 PM
WTF you say dat if you check site before go live on server then no chance dat that site cause any problem,and again where you find logs if you are suspended ....how go on ftp to see logs,dont tell my dat you hawe way to hawe logs with you from server if you are suspended
Posted by farahjira, 02-29-2012, 06:29 PM
Don't mean to insult but WTF is wrong with you? It makes me really wonder why your netmagics account doesn't get suspended because if you're for real and you never check your logs after you upload your files to the host to make sure everything is running smoothly you are not a web designer. You have no clue. Sorry bro but wtf?!
Posted by euronet063, 02-29-2012, 06:38 PM
you dont know anything about sites,hosting and servers,and I'm sorry to say losing time here with you......
Posted by farahjira, 02-29-2012, 06:44 PM
Wells thanks for the time you put into trying to discredit me. Sorry it didn't work out, it appears I am one of the clients who actually know wtf they're doing when purchasing hosting. You my friend, are
Posted by euronet063, 02-29-2012, 06:48 PM
you discredit youself ,any user on wht with a litle knowledge about sites,hosting or servers know what is not ok in your story.but that is all the result of your lack of knowledge....
Posted by farahjira, 02-29-2012, 06:50 PM
Looks like you have a need to be the last one to talk so I'm dropping it. Have a good rest of your day.
Posted by farahjira, 02-29-2012, 07:00 PM
So since I started this threat it looks like netmagics is aware of it. He blocked the IP this machine has and whenever I visit netmagics.com or the retarded indian's personal website (which is hosted on the same server), I get the following: If I visit the website using another IP it displays correctly. Way to go netmagics! I'm trying to access the following two URLS: http://www.subodh.co.in/?page_id=2 http://www.netmagics.com/ So it appears netmagics knows about what I posted, yet they don't say anything. Seems to me that if a company respects itself would either admit to being wrong and offer an apology (which is just freaking text), or would deny any wrongdoing and supply the required evidence. What do you think of this? Is this a reputable company? Last edited by farahjira; 02-29-2012 at 07:01 PM. Reason: addded italicized line
Posted by farahjira, 02-29-2012, 07:12 PM
Check out the consequences of posting stuff about yourself online: you can edit your website all you want you indian thief, big brother is always watching and never forgives: cache of http://www.subodh.co.in/?page_id=29
Posted by Chris - Whitesystem, 02-29-2012, 08:46 PM
Why do people here assume the OP is a liar if we haven't even listened Netmagic's side of the story?... also, we don't even know what's his domain name / website to review if its sooo visited or not, just to drop an amateur diagnostic of what could be the cause of the high resource usage. As a customer I think I'd definitely feel very frustrated if my sites get suspended with no apparent reason attached and no logs provided to corroborate the problem... and asking for -logs- is not a crime... If the OP could provide some screenshots about their responses, and the suspension, and of course, validating your review by clicking on the Report button, we'd all highly appreciate that. P.S. Being an Indian doesn't make him a bad hosting provider, I just hope you use that argument to express your concern about his 'fake name'... Last edited by Chris - Whitesystem; 02-29-2012 at 08:50 PM.
Posted by farahjira, 02-29-2012, 09:07 PM
Edit: Exactly! Thank you very much. I was beginning to think I got the whole hosting industry wrong. Basically it's my fault for signing up with netmagics without properly reading the terms of service. BUT! This is preposterous. I pre-paid for 3 years, I still have 2 years and 2 months to go and my account is still suspended for more than 30 days now. Here's my domain in case anyone missed it: http://aoetrainer.co.cc And I attached all of my Google Analytics history. Attached Files Analytics_aoetrainer.co.cc_20110417-20120228_(DashboardReport).pdf (128.5 KB, 72 views) Last edited by farahjira; 02-29-2012 at 09:16 PM. Reason: forgot to answer other remarks.
Posted by Collabora, 02-29-2012, 09:20 PM
According to OP. his site was suspended for only a very short time. Host brought it back up during support call. It was only after verbal abuse by OP -- after site was unsuspended -- did host enforce a strict policy. OP has threatened to hire thugs to do harm to host OP says he can access files after he claimed site is suspended OP uses uncivilized tongue What more is necessary?
Posted by farahjira, 02-29-2012, 09:28 PM
Everyone can see you're tying to discredit a valid complaint based on silly superficial reasons so I'm only going to address things that matter in this post. The rest of the things are pure smoke in someone's face and an insult to anyone's intelligence. It was suspended for more than 24 hours initially. That's not a very short time. And if you look at my analytics history there's a big gap that stretches for days where I had 0 visits. Whereas the adjacent days to that gap have 30+ visits. That's impossible in real life unless my website was down. The whole server was down because of HDD failure and whatever else they blamed it on.
Posted by Collabora, 02-29-2012, 09:31 PM
I must have missed the HDD part
Posted by farahjira, 02-29-2012, 09:33 PM
No, I just didn't mention it until now. That's beside the point. My account is suspended now, it's not down because hardware failed. We all know HDDs have the habit of failing when you least expect it.
Posted by farahjira, 02-29-2012, 10:05 PM
I also have past communications about the service being down and the hard drive failure notification and all of that stuff if anyone is interested. Attached Files full-support-exchange.pdf (609.7 KB, 94 views)
Posted by KMyers, 03-01-2012, 12:50 AM
Hello,
Posted by farahjira, 03-01-2012, 01:32 AM
I respect your opinion, but I sincerely doubt you bothered to read everything. Most people don't especially given the length of this thread which was started with the intention to get netmagics to communicate. 1. My website was not abusing resources. If it was, the host should have provided logs or at least some kind of evidence of that happening. It's easy to blame it on addons, but that's not the case this time. 2. You are probably Indian or somehow feel offended by my racist statements. I'm just outraged. Be that as it may though, it does have everything to do with the price of tea in China because netmagics says it's $5.49 when in fact the Chinese say it's for free. You shouldn't steal people's money just because your policies save your ass legally speaking. It's not just because it's immoral, but because you will dig your own grave that way, so to speak. People catch up on these things, and this post will definitely show up the next time people google for netmagics reviews or netmagics sucks. 3. Disrespectful does not equal demanding. I have rights as a customer and I demanded that those rights be honored and no lies be fed to me. netmagics never once bothered to provide me with answers. They just fed me the line you used above "oh...wordpress can be a bitch and use up a lot of memory because of faulty addons". That's awesome but that doesn't mean MY wordpress installation is that kind of installation. And you couldn't have less of a clue about my installation. 4. Did you enforce your abuse clause because you were caught red handed and could not provide resource abuse logs? Or was it because a user told you to never suspend their account without notifications (which is a user's right since the user is paying your ass to provide that service)? How on earth can you possibly post that and still expect people to look at you like a good service provider? You are siding with the wrong party here, and are confusing demand for disrespect and rights for abuse. Regardless of my language, my right was always that of a customer - to receive the service that I pay for. It seems that both you and the other host guy who says "$5 is nothing wtf are you complaining about" have something in common: you think that customers should be kissing up to you and never demanding anything. It's like you expect clients to be your slave and not have any rights or demands for the money they pay you. I'm sorry, but that's extremely disappointing and completely unacceptable. No matter which industry you work in, if someone pays you for a service, it's because you made it available and therefore already agreed to providing that service. See where I'm going here? All netmagics needs to do is come up with some fake ass resource usage logs and they would shut me up for good. Because I'd have no way to fight that. But they're ******** and made the retarded choice to not provide any logs, and abuse one of their terms of service which says they have the right to suspend any account at any time without notice. That's awesome. Very ****ing retarded of me to not read that ToS, but that still doesn't make it alright. Get me? I have a CCW permit but it doesn't give me the right to unload my gun on anyone unless I'm defending my life. The same with that policy netmagics abused. That's there for extreme cases when someone is hosting porn for example, or copyrighted materials and netmagics gets a C&D letter and has to terminate said account. And the shittier part is that Alex Johnson last said to me he is going to escalade the case to a server admin to have my account removed. My account is still active, but suspended to this day. It has not been removed from their system. So that's another fishy behavior. Why would the admin not simply remove my account? Who is Alex Johnson really? And why does a company simply ban a customer from their support ticketing system, and later on when the customer posts about the experience they ban that customer's IP from accessing any resources served by their httpd? I'm sure this is more than you were hoping to read but sorry dude, I don't get the way some hosts (including you) see hosting services. We are paying you. Wake up. We don't owe you from that moment on. You owe us the service. That's how it is.
Posted by KMyers, 03-01-2012, 02:09 AM
Hello,
Posted by nehir, 03-01-2012, 09:35 AM
WTF is that? Details: Web page:http://aoetrainer.co.cc Comment:Access to the web page was blocked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. The web page is on the list of websites with potentially dangerous contents. Attached Thumbnails
Posted by SunShellHosting, 03-01-2012, 10:00 AM
I am not quite sure why this is so funny to you. Staying with mom and dad is not a bad thing, especially in India. It shows Indian's culture, the respect, support and care towards their parents. Parents work hard for us and it is our duty to take care of them when we start to earn money. This is what Indians believe. I think you are from US, we Indians, don't follow US's culture. @OP: If your clients talk to you using this kind of language, what would you do? Believe me, I know many other hosts who would terminate the account without any notification if they clients talk to them using such rude tone, and I've seen that you have been warned about termination and provided enough time to pack your things. Very generous act I believe. Correct, If I understood correctly, the main reason for terminating the account is the staff abuse. Not the % amount of the resource usage. Wrong buddy, WHT is not a platform for communication between a client and host. WHT is not a support medium, as said by many hosts in many hundreds of other thread. Then why do you do that ? Quoting from the pdf that you attached. If I were on you, I'd say Believe me, this two sentence will put a stop to your problem. If you respect the host, the host will respect you. Too bad, you've gone far away from getting a solution to your problem from netmagic. Good luck finding your next host.
Posted by euronet063, 03-01-2012, 10:13 AM
i'm not shure dat farahjira lives in USA.. I think dat farahjira is child...
Posted by farahjira, 03-01-2012, 10:20 AM
My point exactly. The fact that he's Indian has little to do with netmagics performance and everything to do with being dishonest (using fake names). All support tickets are answered by people with American names. Agreed, let's stop with the races, I am not trying to come across as racist, I am just outraged as I previously mentioned. I'm sorry about the customer who called you an idiot and expected an unreasonable amount of support from you and did not give you time to breathe. That's why I gave you the examples of porn hosting and/or copyright infringement. Those are extreme cases. And it's okay that you generalized and immediately placed the same kind of gut hate on me due to your past experience. That's what I do too, even though I try not to. You live in the US, and you use services like cell phone and other stuff. Most often than not, you get an Indian or Philippino on the other line. Enough said. That's my past experience. If you look at my communication, after I was threatened with account closure I mentioned chargebacks (which again was scare tactic because I was 8 months after the charge). Also notice that I did not call him an idiot, nor did I call his mother a slut. I simply demanded my rights. Didn't ask for them because they're not his to decide whether to award me my rights or not. That's the bottom line issue here. Besides, no credit company or PayPal is going to look at a transaction that old. That wasn't smart of me, of course. I shouldn't have mentioned that if it wasn't possible. The point I continue to make stands valid because you and everyone here uses "IF". And I agreed to this before, and will agree again. Yes, there is a possibility for a wordpress installation to have bad plugins/addons. Mine did not and I know because I bothered to check memory usage via a plugin, error logs, net requests in firebug's panel, load times, and so on. Nothing was out of the ordinary. The whole point of me being upset is that I did not receive any notification for my account being suspended. Whether the host wishes to provide that before or after my account gets suspended is of less consequence to me. The point is, netmagics did not provide any logs even after asking them three times via email. You tell me if I should be fine with losing my money over this. I have one choice, in reality. And that is to make everyone aware of what netmagics does and why they should never host with them regardless of how cheap or convenient it is. Your two choices are not really choices because netmagics even banned my IP from accessing any of their servers. I'd say it's safe to assume they stole my money want to run away with it now. And the fact that I found out the owner lives with his parents is damn hilarious. Apology? Are you serious? That's just text. Here: Netmagics, I apologize for being an ******* and saying that I would initiate a chargeback. I would like my service restored and a direct and honest communication between us so we can address any possible resource usage issues together. If netmagics was run by honest people, and had any kind of experience with hosting, I would have gotten at least a promise that the next time my website gets suspended for resource abuse they would make sure to provide logs. I would have been happy with that. But not some bull about how wordpress does this and wordpress does that. Hell, even HTTPD can chew up all memory if it's not properly tuned.
Posted by farahjira, 03-01-2012, 10:27 AM
That's one of the files shared on the website which is a game trainer. Game trainers access memory and modifies particular values so you get more health or whatever it is. https://www.virustotal.com/file/21cd...is/1313206591/
Posted by farahjira, 03-01-2012, 10:35 AM
So you think it's okay for the host to steal my money because I said something a different way? You may find it disrespectful but I do not. I demanded, not begged. There's a point to that. In life you don't leave your rights at the mercy of someone else's decision. I don't know if it works in India but over here you fight for your rights. The whole discussion now gravitates around me being respectful or not as if that has any weight or any redemption capabilities for netmagics' theft. It does not. I did not call him names, I did not say anything about his mother, I just demanded my rights. That's all. WHT is a support medium, but I found netmagics' owner has an account here and thought he would get alerted by me mentioning netmagics or simply by noticing the thread.
Posted by euronet063, 03-01-2012, 10:36 AM
and you dont understand realy ,that what you test on your desktop,is not what you get on shared server,not same errors,not same load,nothing..... Ha ha god joke " That's one of the files shared on the website which is a game trainer. Game trainers access memory and modifies particular values so you get more health or whatever it is. https://www.virustotal.com/file/21cd...is/1313206591/"
Posted by farahjira, 03-01-2012, 10:39 AM
I have yet to understand you. You're probably one of those guys who are hanging out with the gang and when there's a fight, you're always behind the real men. Then at times you jump from behind to say something about the other gang, then run and hide back behind the real men before you get slapped. Get a life.
Posted by euronet063, 03-01-2012, 10:47 AM
You understand me hahah,but i dont understand you,i use netmagic,i good now how things going on that host,and who give support,and wery good know dat you without reason get attack on owner netmagic's and support team who realy dont work directly for netmagic,this guys know their joob planty good,and if you are suspended from them (after i use service and that guys give my realy good support for this time,i know 99.9% ) you are with reason suspended,only you dont understand how hosting realy works,how times i saying you not same is using your home desktop for test and geting same results on shared server,not same configuration and more....but like said you are child 100%
Posted by SunShellHosting, 03-01-2012, 10:50 AM
Why didn't you try the normal way, asking refund politely. If my client "request" me to provide something, I don't think it as a begging, nor other respectful hosts here. I'll say it is your mindset, but you can't expect others to have the same mindset. Wrong. WHT is not a support medium. You get nothing from here on such issues other than advises such as 'look for other hosts'. I believe you can still email them even though they have your ip in their blacklist. Try that way. I am sorry to hear that you had bad experience with a host. However, I just want to let you know that you should not categories hosts by race and the owner's family status. It is my advise that you try to contact netmagic through emails and ask for your backup. Get your backup and find a new host, and start a fresh life
Posted by farahjira, 03-01-2012, 10:51 AM
Oh so you are the guy who says **** only to hide behind real men. Whew! I thought it was going to be harder to get you. Good. Glad I got that straightened out. The rest of your opinion is your right.
Posted by farahjira, 03-01-2012, 11:02 AM
That's kind of history now isn't it? I do not, and others shouldn't expect me to have their mindset. It still is besides the point that I have been robbed. I just used your own words - "support medium". You stated it was a support medium not a communication platform for client-host. I am going to find another host. There's enough of them out there, but the issue at hand is theft. I am not going to simply move on and forget about my 3 year pre-paid account. I will not stop until I get a resolution to this - be it an un-suspend, or a refund for the remaining 2 years of hosting I paid for. Yeah, I get it, you're indian, you're upset, sorry I didn't mean to put all indians in the same bucket, which is why I always refer to him as "this retarded indian". That infers it's this specific indian whom I see as retarded. Not every other indian. I have no need for a backup, I already have a backup. I always backup, like a good web designer would. Finding a new host does not pose a problem for me. What does is leaving behind my hard earned cash with this thief. That's just simply not going to happen.
Posted by SunShellHosting, 03-01-2012, 11:07 AM
Ah, Sorry I missed that part. Anyway, let just use "host" or "good host", "bad host" etc. Good luck
Posted by farahjira, 03-01-2012, 11:09 AM
Okay, I will use bad host from now on. netmagics is a bad host. Thanks.
Posted by euronet063, 03-01-2012, 11:14 AM
Ok i will say nemagics is good host and Support team(all and Alex and Jerry,Edward...) are great and farahjira did not provide any evidence for the claim that netmagics or owner is cheat him for money, but just insulted netmagics and his owner.
Posted by farahjira, 03-01-2012, 11:19 AM
If you took the time to actually read rather than insult me, you'd notice this.
Posted by euronet063, 03-01-2012, 11:23 AM
and what with next payment is 2014,you violated terms,who will give you moneyback when abuse terms,ask on any host ,go ask ,say if i produce with my site problem on server and you suspend me did i hawe right to moneyback
Posted by farahjira, 03-01-2012, 11:24 AM
Go back and read. That issue has already been addressed several times.
Posted by euronet063, 03-01-2012, 11:30 AM
For your pm and my "stupidity" i will ask wht to read and decide is it ok. wrong way to fix your mistake over WHT and possibly force him to return your money... No i'm not from India,i live in Europe....
Posted by farahjira, 03-01-2012, 11:41 AM
You mean this "stupidity"? I am entitled to an opinion and I find you stupid. As in less likely to have full cognitive capabilities stupid. You don't make sense, you just bark at a tree like a dog with rabies. You don't bother to read everything you just are dead set on doing everything in your power to discredit me as a person. This thread is not open for that. It's about netmagics stealing from a customer. My capabilities as a web designer or my age are irrelevant. And so are your comments - irrelevant. Where exactly do you live in Europe? I don't consider what I'm doing forcing. It's not like I have a gun to his head and waiting for him to click refund in PayPal. He has a choice to either terminate my account, or refund me. Right now I'm suspended. That's a big question mark if you ask me.
Posted by Collabora, 03-01-2012, 11:46 AM
I don't see any advantage to netmagics engaging this person in public. Vote No in the poll.
Posted by KMyers, 03-01-2012, 11:47 AM
Hello, You are quite wrong with that statement. Refunds are not "rights", in you read Netmagics Terms of Service, it clearly reads. "No refunds will be made if we terminate your hosting or other services due to violation of our Acceptable Use Policy or any other violation of our Terms and Conditions" So even if refunds were a "right" (and they are not), you have given up this right by purchasing hosting from NetMagics. I should point out that this clause is standard in almost every hosts terms of service. It really does not matter if you paid 5 years up front.
Posted by farahjira, 03-01-2012, 12:02 PM
I disagree with you on everything but the fact that I agreed to ToS when signing up with netmagics. That was my mistake. But you cannot possibly be real about the other stuff. What you're saying is that once someone signs up with a host they give up any and all rights to their money, entitlement to service, and last but not least well documented allegations such that their website is abusing ToS (with regards to usage). That just simply sounds wrong. If this is what the hosting industry is all about: free access to anyone's money, then we're ****ed.
Posted by Collabora, 03-01-2012, 12:18 PM
Cut it with the "rights" crap. You do not have a right to hosting. You only have the right to enter into a mutually voluntary agreement or contract with a host. When one party breaches the agreement the other party can cancel it at will -- that is the other party's right. You were obviously in material breach of the agreement and the host exercised his rights. You are the losing party. Suck it up and move on.
Posted by euronet063, 03-01-2012, 02:22 PM
I dont belive dat WHT moderators dont reacting on this user.
Posted by euronet063, 03-01-2012, 02:32 PM
Malaysian? "But you cannot possibly be real about the other stuff. What you're saying is that once someone signs up with a host they give up any and all rights to their money, entitlement to service, and last but not least well documented allegations such that their website is abusing ToS (with regards to usage). That just simply sounds wrong. If this is what the hosting industry is all about: free access to anyone's money, then we're ****ed." Only hope dat will WHT moderators react and block this user.
Posted by farahjira, 03-01-2012, 03:06 PM
Of course there is no advantage. It's a complaint. It is necessary though to keep trust of future clients.
Posted by Chris - Whitesystem, 03-01-2012, 04:09 PM
Lol, how's that Netmagics shouldn't join? ;P I'm the only one who voted (yes) hehe, This is just -a discussion- and that's all... maybe Netmagics is right, maybe the OP is right, who knows if Netmagics doesn't give his side of the story?... we all should be impartial until then, I'm not on OP's side, I just understand his frustration (I mean, is normal if one day you weak up and see your site has been suspended) and I believe there's an explanation for everything, but if Netmagics doesn't join the thread or at least expose his opinions about the topic, it might be quite difficult for all of us to give a real diagnostic... is just my opinion, please don't start insulting me and if you're going to quote me, quote the whole response and not a small part of my reply peace...
Posted by Collabora, 03-01-2012, 04:17 PM
We don't need netmagic's opinion when the OP's own words buries him
Posted by farahjira, 03-01-2012, 04:18 PM
Let me make it clear: netmagics said my account was using too many resources. I say not true. They do not provide logs, so who's right? netmagics or myself? Terms of contract were breached by netmagics - suspension of account without any reason (resource usage reason is void since no accompanying documentation was presented). netmagics suspends my account on grounds of threatening. I say again not true - I didn't even call them idiots, I just used a demanding language (and mentioned chargeback as an option for me but still did not insult) rather than being a slave asking for mercy. netmagics does not provide an answer to further requests to communicate. netmagics blocks me from support system (email-based). I post this thread and others all over the place, hoping to get netmagics' attention. netmagics adds my IP to their black-list so as to not even allow me to see their website. Point is, what I say, I back up. What netmagics said was not backed up by anything. If I was netmagics and I was right, I would come on here and make sure this stupid client gets their complaint shoved up his/her butt. On the other hand.... I know that this forum has mainly service providers than consumers. I get that. So it's normal to be met with aversion and you to side with netmagics on this one. It doesn't make it right though. Unfortunately it just makes it more obvious that the hosting companies that pop up on the market but do not make a name for themselves (reputation) are not the kind of companies you want to deal with. On top of that, the fact that so far 3 of these small timers (that I wouldn't ever find out they existed unless they had commented on this thread) did not even comment on the fact that money was retained for services not provided as if that's a given and actually an ok thing to do. It makes it even worse of a prospect for a future client to pick any one of you as their host. Apparently host is always right regardless of the fact that evidence is not present. Again, my purpose is to get netmagics involved in the conversation. If I am such a horrible customer let them make their case. It looks like it is easy to steal a customer's money given outrageous ToS and the added benefit of operating in a foreign country where the US consumer protection/legal actions have no reach.
Posted by farahjira, 03-01-2012, 04:40 PM
That's another thing you should never say. People get pissed and say stuff. It doesn't mean their complaint is less valid. It just means they got to the point where straight and calm talk is no longer possible. But the complaint and injustice towards that person is not diminished by that person's choice of words. If I was a complete butthole and started insulting netmagics staff and talked bad about their mothers I'd understand. But none of that went on. Why do you assume that netmagics is right about resource usage when in fact you did not look at netmagics logs? How come you don't assume I'm right and netmagics just pulled a fast one on me? It's just as possible given the information available to you and I.
Posted by farahjira, 03-01-2012, 04:45 PM
I don't think anyone will insult you because you're a host. Seriously, just watch. Thanks for at least allowing the possibility that I may have a valid point or at least a portion thereof.
Posted by euronet063, 03-01-2012, 09:02 PM
Chris-WS You are in right from relation neutral observer ,but i use netmagics services almost 13 months,and what is important i use some difrent host and that host hawe same outsource support team ,so i realy know how that guys work to help us,in both host-who is not in any way related 100%,and when read first that this child wrote about Alex,dat is owner of netmagics with fake name,i try to explain .... difrence,and from my expiriance with that support(and trust me from my experience that guys only react when servers are realy in position to hawe problems-to users)try to explain how can and you beter know ,how is easy to wp cause problems on servers,but what i and others users in thread get only insults,so why to call owner of netmagics to come on wht and what to explain,from all what is this child wrote,i realy trust dat it comes to the category of users who is not hawe clue how things work in hosting industry,what to owner of netmagics need to say on wht after all written against him,something like that can only come from someone who has no education or the child.I realy belive dat is child.and I wonder who it could do serious work on co.cc domains,other than abusive activity, and we all know what percentage abusive users with co.cc domains. Last edited by euronet063; 03-01-2012 at 09:11 PM.
Posted by farahjira, 03-02-2012, 12:09 AM
Sorry, I am having trouble understanding exactly what you mean by most of what you wrote. Can you please try typing in your own language and letting Google Translate do the work? Anywho, if I get the gist of it, here's aoetrainer.co.cc restored from a backup dating Jan 15 2012: http://aoetrainer.usa.cc It is hosted by a free host (who so far has not found my website so abusive as to suspend it even though I do not even pay for that hosting). The free host's name is Freehostia and the webpage loads twice as fast as it used to on netmagics (no, I'm not being an idiot, I am being honest). Can't get full stats because PHP is limited from running particular functions (it is a free host after all, security is important), but I can get you memory usage provided by WP Really Simple Health:
Posted by sam0, 03-02-2012, 01:10 AM
I'm not going to get into the original suspension, it could of been a mistake, or it could of been a legitimate suspension in line with their ToS, it's impossible to determine without a response from the host, but note that the host removed the suspension 30 mins after you created the ticket. However regarding the second suspension; the host acted within the scope of their ToS (which you agreed to) when you responded to them with such a rude and threatening tone, they also gave you 2 warnings before suspending you, but you kept up the same tone. I have never contacted any of my hosts with rude messages, sure I have let my hosts know I'm frustrated but I'm never rude. You shouldn't be either, as it doesn't get you very far, you should treat this situation as a life lesson and move on.
Posted by farahjira, 03-02-2012, 01:17 AM
Awesome advice, thank you. Can I hold your wallet and then not give it back to you because you were rude to me after I told you I might not give your wallet back? You're frustrated when your host is down for 4 days while they're trying to get things working and bothering to let you know about it. Not when your host suspends your account without logs, has constant sluggish servers, loses your mysql database due to HDD corruption (good thing I had backups), then goes down due to HDD failure, and so on and so forth. Don't patronize me. I paid for a service I didn't receive and I got ****ing mad. It's as simple as that. I wish you don't ever have to learn a life lesson like the one you propose.
Posted by sam0, 03-02-2012, 01:35 AM
That situation doesn't work. I didn't have any agreement with you not to be rude, so you would then be breaking the law. You agreed to not be rude and disrespectful when you signed up with this host, thus the host is within their rights when they suspend you for breaking the contract. You should of read the ToS before clicking 'I agree' and you should of also heeded their 2 warnings. If your uptime was less than 99.9% in a month, you would of been credited for a month free (according to their ToS), also according to their ToS "we are not responsible for loss of data.", which is also an industry standard. Like I said, you should of read the ToS. I already know how to speak to people civilly, I also do lots of research on a company before I give them any money, I don't ever sign up for any kind of service for 3 years in advance, and I read what I agree to. So luckily I don't need the aforementioned life lesson.
Posted by farahjira, 03-02-2012, 01:41 AM
I still fail to understand why nobody actually talks about the money. Fine, I made a mistake by not reading the ToS, but what about the money that is currently being held without providing the service it was meant to pay for? How come it's okay to steal someone's money just because they're rude? That's what I can't comprehend. I sure hope you will never ever be stupid like I was when I signed up with netmagics.
Posted by sam0, 03-02-2012, 01:48 AM
I'm afraid this is also in the ToS - Although this is also an industry standard, from what I've seen this clause is usually meant for month to month contracts, ie if you break their ToS on day 10 of 30, you cant request a refund for the remaining 20 days. If I were you I'd open another ticket and be as civil as possible and apologise, say you were just frustrated etc and hopefully they'll remove the suspension or give you some money back, although your pride would take a hit your wallet might thank you for it. However they're under no obligation to do so.
Posted by farahjira, 03-02-2012, 02:08 AM
You must have missed the banning and blacklisting thing. This is about money, not pride, not outrageous ToS. If the company was in the US it would have been sued by now tenfold. I have no problem using the English language - but this is beyond being scrupulous or apologetic; there is something seriously wrong with the hosting industry as a whole if everyone thinks it's okay to keep people's money because they're rude. What if this was a $100/mo server? Netmagics would have made $3,600. How's that even remotely acceptable?! My pride doesn't take a hit dude. And neither should netmagics'. Text is just text. I don't know the people (thank God), and they don't know me - no feelings involved. Therefore it all boils down to business, money, rights, and ****ing ToS. Here's what I mean by it's just text: Dear netmagics, I would like to express my deep and heartfelt apology for the horrible way I have treated your support staff. I wish I could take it back but alas it is impossible. I would like, however, to start fresh if you are willing to, and try to mitigate the resource abuse issues my website is causing. While I pride myself with the knowledge to be able to be proactive about these things, it is possible I may have had something escape me or some malicious code was introduced without my knowledge that results in such drastic resource usage. I would also like to apologize for the fact that I made a mockery of your public image and am ready to reverse all the damage that has been done at a moment's notice. I realize that your business lives and continues to get clients based on reviews and that my negative review on webhostingtalk would have a devastating effect unless removed. As evidence that I am committed to repairing this damage, I hereby notify you that I have removed all my tweets, Facebook posts, amplicate.com, and web hosting reviews (several websites) that have a negative effect on your company's reputation. Once again, I feel very bad for my mistakes and would like to apologize yet again for being ignorant of your ToS which, in all honesty, did not read at sign-up. I know it is my responsibility but I somehow forfeited doing that. Maybe because I was in a hurry, I don't know, but that does not excuse or waive my obligation to abide by said ToS. Looking forward to hearing from you, Farah
Posted by euronet063, 03-02-2012, 03:39 AM
Not answered,you are from malaysia ,and age 14-15y? It's wery important to be sincere for age to not WHT memebers loses time on your stu...ities.
Posted by euronet063, 03-02-2012, 03:50 AM
what a joke.... "As evidence that I am committed to repairing this damage, I hereby notify you that I have removed all my tweets, Facebook posts, amplicate.com, and web hosting reviews (several websites) that have a negative effect on your company's reputation."
Posted by SunShellHosting, 03-02-2012, 04:07 AM
Seems like you're fighting alone to the whole hosting industry for your money Just curious to know how much money was it for that you are spending this much time on WHT writing long replies to 80+ posts thread.
Posted by farahjira, 03-02-2012, 09:46 AM
That's the first time you are able to correctly determine it was a joke.
Posted by farahjira, 03-02-2012, 09:54 AM
Why so grim mr? Actually, just 5 of you spineless people who are okay with keeping money in exchange for bruised egos (Actually 3, because the other european dude just joins in the conversation to kiss netmagics ass and the last one is an ex-host with some ****** past experience). That's what it all boils down to. netmagics couldn't take the fact that I caught them red handed so they had to throw a silly line like "wordpress sucks". They just found a more knowledgeable person, that's all. I want real, straight talk, not pathetic excuses and cowering behind ToS. Someone has to take the initiative to point out the bad apples in an industry. It might actually lead to awareness and then all of those awesome entrepreneurs who are enjoying free money right now will soon be gone.
Posted by farahjira, 03-02-2012, 10:12 AM
Oh that was a question for me? I thought you meant you were from Malaysia so I just let it drop since Malaysia has a few billion years before it touches the European continent (that will be a sad day for Earth though). It may be important to your point which you've been trying to make use of for quite a while now. I feel sorry for you. I just hope you never make it outside of your country and never have kids. It would be disastrous for humans to deal with more of you in the future. In case you weren't able to get it: yes, the above is an ambivalent statement, I don't mean you any harm in reality.
Posted by euronet063, 03-02-2012, 10:27 AM
and your age is?
Posted by sam0, 03-02-2012, 12:44 PM
If your pride has nothing to do with it, why did you insist on continuing the bad attitude/disrespectfulness after they warned you twice before suspending you? They operate within US law - http://blog.internetcases.com/2009/1...rude-customer/ Have you tried emailing them the above text? Possibly from a different email address to bypass any blacklist? Further replies in this thread with the same attitude and racism/insults isn't going to help your cause.
Posted by farahjira, 03-02-2012, 01:40 PM
Because they did not provide adequate proof for initial suspension. And because that was just the last drop in the history of service disruptions I had to deal with. Additionally, I was already ****ing pissed. Mind you, an exact copy of that website is now running on http://aoetrainer.usa.cc/. If my website is that much of a resource abuse for hosts, why hasn't Free Hostia suspended me already? I'm sure their available resources are way less due to the nature of free hosting. You misunderstood. I can't sue their ass because their business is in India and US laws do not apply. Additionally, US Consumer Protection agencies cannot hold them accountable for anything. So in that sense, netmagics is out of reach and cannot be held accountable. No, but I'll do that just for you because you're nicey I actually believe it will help, but not my case. It will help other people stay away from small time hosts that operate outside of the US such as netmagics which is a BAD HOST.
Posted by farahjira, 03-02-2012, 01:49 PM
I sent the email using another email address, and got the automated reply, so this one isn't banned. Feel free to log in and check on the status . I can't, I'm black-listed.
Posted by sam0, 03-02-2012, 01:51 PM
I know, but what I mean is (according to that court case) if they were in US they would be operating within US law and it would be likely that you would lose any court case against them.
Posted by euronet063, 03-02-2012, 02:01 PM
Farah are you from Malaysia, did I miss something or Malaysia is not state in USA .... and age
Posted by farahjira, 03-02-2012, 02:09 PM
Absolutely! Because I checked the box "I agree with ToS and PP" at signup and it's just myself. But change the landscape a little bit, add a few more people, make it a class action suit and then you get a taste for those ToS going out the door. Most courts dismiss contracts when things are obviously wrong - like theft in this case. The possibility of a class action suit against host ToS is not out of the question either, because it really allows hosts to keep your money if you so much as object to their decision to suspend or whatever else. It's not an issue yet in the US because most hosts give a crap about their image and won't go to this extent with a US citizen regardless of what happened. It just is too much of a risk and too costly. Most US hosts would just throw your $100 back in your face, fake an apology like the one I wrote a few posts up, and move on with it. The customer then can't post negative reviews because they got compensated and cannot lie without being subject to a lawsuit by the host, and that's how you do it. But netmagics does not have a reputation to keep. In fact, it's so small that a lawsuit would automatically push them off the market because the lawyer fees alone would cost them more than what they made since 2007. But as I said, netmagics cannot be touched by US jurisdiction as it stands right now.
Posted by farahjira, 03-02-2012, 02:16 PM
Oh don't worry, you just missed the location by a couple of continents. Here you go: http://maps.google.com/maps?q=malays...laysia&t=m&z=6 If you want to find out personal information about me, you'll have to meet me in person. If you still feel like asking questions then, I'll definitely answer.
Posted by euronet063, 03-02-2012, 02:17 PM
Farah are you from Malaysia, did I miss something or Malaysia is not state in USA .... and age ? "But as I said, netmagics cannot be touched by US jurisdiction as it stands right now."
Posted by euronet063, 03-02-2012, 02:19 PM
And what if you are from USA,and netamagics sue you for damage? But like said,you are child 100%,and from Malaysia....
Posted by farahjira, 03-02-2012, 02:23 PM
I don't know who netamagics is. (this should keep you busy for a few minutes. let daddy work now)
Posted by euronet063, 03-02-2012, 02:28 PM
And child from Malaysia wants to sue,someone from India, but under the USA jurisdiction,and what others)
Posted by euronet063, 03-02-2012, 02:35 PM
I wrote enough for those who will still be read,through your answers will see dat most of the things you lied about netmagics, only be interesting when the next time you been suspend on a hosting what will you do,sue all the hosting of the world on a one cost,because you dont read TOS or do not suit you... bye-bye
Posted by farahjira, 03-02-2012, 02:37 PM
sarcasm> I mothered you like a son. I gave you definitions of English terms, I gave you google maps links to help you find Malaysia on the map, I gave you multiple links to help your webmaster troubleshooting skills, I even allowed you to poke fun at particular things I said. And this is how you treat your parental figure? You shameless little ****. I raised you, clothed you, bathed you, wiped your dirty ass when you cried, and fed you. Seriously now, I will be ignoring everything you post from now on. I'm sorry, I cannot help myself from seeing you as a pathetic excuse of a human being. Maybe it's for the best you're in Europe. You wouldn't survive in any other place on this planet. Have a great day.
Posted by Subodh M, 03-03-2012, 02:04 AM
Since you have shared your support login credentials in public, I thought I should post my reply here also. Alex has banned you from our Support Desk only. But I had to blacklist your IP in ours servers when you posted comments in my personal blog in such abusive language. Here I'm attaching the full conversation which you had with our staff, Alex which ended up in your account suspension. Attached Files ticket_FPWL-260279.pdf (8.6 KB, 56 views)
Posted by sam0, 03-03-2012, 02:26 AM
Good to see netmagics give their side of the story, even though most of us were siding with them already. farahjira- This is WAY over the line, I don't see what you were trying to achieve with such responses. You claim that netmagics are breaking US law (even though I showed you a court case which showed they weren't) yet you commit a felony by threatening him. I don't blame netmagics at all for terminating your account, in fact, I fully support it.
Posted by starline, 03-03-2012, 06:37 AM
Probably, this should be enough to understand the op's attitude.
Posted by farahjira, 03-03-2012, 08:32 AM
Finally! Welcome to the forum. But those are included in my apology. I mentioned all posts. That was obviously outraged talk and nonsense due to the conversation becoming one-sided. Call it temporary insanity. You are not hurt and won't be, at least not because of me. It's not fair to treat clients like that, especially given the initial exchange Alex and I had. That was private, it wasn't cussing, it wasn't threatening, it was just silly talk based on an initial suspension that had no grounds. The worst exchange that went on was "suspend" and "chargeback". Either way, I can't get the remainder of my money back, and you know it. But I do appreciate that you joined the discussion. That was my goal. The final decision would still be yours and you've made it. I do keep my promises, I will remove everything I posted.
Posted by farahjira, 03-03-2012, 08:35 AM
That was after the ban and thread being started here. If you scroll up some, I mentioned the same kind of nonsense on this forum as well. Being outraged didn't change between posts on here, twitter, his blog, other review sites, other independent opinion sites, and so on and so forth. It may be WAY over the line, but it got netmagics to finally answer. So my purpose for this thread and everything else is met.
Posted by farahjira, 03-03-2012, 08:53 AM
As the last thing I post on here before it gets removed: I must say, netmagics has a history of suspending people and stealing their money. It's almost as if their business model includes theft as a way to do business. My reviews being removed won't mean much, because those who seek for netmagics reviews will inevitably bump into the other ones that mention similar things but less foul language. Here's an example that sounds way too familiar to what I went through (poor service+ban): What else can I say? Good luck netmagics.
Posted by euronet063, 03-03-2012, 03:04 PM
I was i at the place of netmagics i would never return you the money,almost certainly you are ..... ,so it is better to seek medi.. professional help... http://s.netmagics.com/59532465.png http://s.netmagics.com/84439d5e.png http://s.netmagics.com/9f259626.png
Posted by euronet063, 03-03-2012, 03:09 PM
He paid a year ago and now looking for moneyback? "You are free to open a charge back for your $18 which you paid before 1 year back for the discounted package that you had with us. "
Posted by euronet063, 03-03-2012, 03:28 PM
http://www.mcafee.com/threat-intelli...aspx?id=847123 "check4permit.aoetrainer.co.cc/***** 67.23.238.***:80 "
Posted by Dustin B Cisneros, 03-03-2012, 04:50 PM
Who would ever want you as a client? I also agree that NetMagics has done the right thing!
Posted by euronet063, 03-03-2012, 07:09 PM
If it is not enough to some future host farahjira nonsense on wht to alow my hosting(without no worries ), will be enough to see evidence from mcafee...and now farahjira say that netmagics is suspended you without reason... http://www.mcafee.com/threat-intelli...aspx?id=847123 "check4permit.aoetrainer.co.cc/***** 67.23.238.***:80 " Last edited by euronet063; 03-03-2012 at 07:12 PM.
Posted by Carp, 03-03-2012, 08:16 PM
I wouldn't give you money back either. It's more amusing watching you act like an ass in front of everyone. If you know everything....Why not start your own business and run it the way you want. Get yourself a cheap VPS....and do it yourself...... Smartass. Last edited by Carp; 03-03-2012 at 08:17 PM. Reason: I wanted to add the smiley at the end.
Posted by farahjira, 03-04-2012, 02:17 AM
semoweb a host who can afford to be honest about suspensions. Netmagics did the wrong thing from the beginning which triggered what you see here - overboard or not. Now, after I said what I said the discussion shifted from theft to how horrible of a person I am. But that's okay, like I said there's a more people who have been through the same with netmagics and hundreds of other people who think just like you: it's okay to **** a customer over because he uses "****". @Carp because I am not a person who would like to deal with the headache of offering hosting services. It's the same reason why you're sealcoating driveways instead of offering hosting services. We're all good at a specific thing. Smartass. And here's your smiley
Posted by NottinghamISP, 03-04-2012, 07:11 AM
There are many people who have had bad hosting, but dont act like a 5 year old like your doing, You dont want the headache from the customers running your own hosting company, But your happy of giving hosts a headache from you? We are all good at doing specific things, But your good at being a mardy child who hasent got a lollipop, Dont you agree? semoweb talks a lot of sense Who would have you as a customer?? Do what most people do, Suck it up and move on. They might of gave you a refund, but with that amount on abuse im backing them up on not giving you a refund. You have a lot to learn. At least NetMagics did the right thing and protect its network and staff.
Posted by Icywolfe, 03-04-2012, 11:27 PM
Even how much a company/person steals/stole you money, you have no right to act like that -- period! Right now saying sorry probably won't even do anything(good) for you. If you are old enough to run a site or a blog(assuming you didn't lie about your server that you test things on) you should had went with a more kinder manner towards the company. If you had issues before with the company why did you stay there? You could've said something like this "I would like to have my domain and my files. Because I'll moving to XXX company."
Posted by farahjira, 03-05-2012, 01:52 AM
Sure, there's many a brave soldier after the war is over. Here's something to ponder about: What amount of money would make you outraged and willing to consider posting bad reviews all over the place and using any kind of scare tactic possible to get it back? Because it all boils down to what ticks you. What ticks me is poor service + lies. If netmagics only had one of the two they would have made it through with me without an incident. If your network is subpar and you can't administer your own equipment to the point where your MySQL server has to be manually started, but you're honest, I'll roll with you. However, if you are not even able to produce fake logs after 30+ days (poor service), and still manage to make it all about me as a client being the problem, not connected to anything you did (lie), then you my good sir have just become the thing that ticks me off the most. So please, Mr DexStation, let's not be self-indulged righteous ego-maniacs. Let's stop and ponder about things a little, give a man the benefit of the doubt and say something with a purpose. I had one when I started this thread and posted those horrible things: to get netmagics to talk. Which worked. What was your purpose? And did it work?
Posted by farahjira, 03-05-2012, 02:13 AM
In this case, neither myself nor netmagics had a right to do anything of what we both did. Yet things like this will always happen so long as there's hosts with abusive ToS and poorly trained staff, and people who get absolutely insanely mad when they realize that their host meets poor performance with lies. And while I only resort to words, others may not be as restrained. Just as there's even worse hosts than Netmagics (probably 1&1). In case you didn't catch that, saying sorry was not meant as a sorry, it was just me giving a try to a suggestion of one of the posters even though I knew it wouldn't lead anywhere. You see, the moment a host bans you from support and suspends you, you should know you're not getting your money back. So then whatever you do next is up to you. I chose. It may not be what you would have chosen, but you were not I. I stayed with netmagics because it was $18 for 3 years for a website that's just a hobby. Meaning doesn't matter. But if you look at netmagics' home page they promise: One thing of all of that is true. It's affordable. It doesn't suit any requirement (apparently even my silly wordpress was too much to handle according to Alex whatever, yet Freehostia doesn't have a problem yet: http://aoetrainer.usa.cc ), it is not reliable (manual mysqld restarts), their server hardware and software may be up-to-date but behave like 486 with 16 more MB of RAM (very low performance), and updating my website always took twice as much as it would have if I had been accessing the internet via dial-up (inefficient), and finally, their uptime is not guaranteed. Not by money back, not by apologies, not by honesty, not by independent statistics. It's just another host type template they used without actually checking it before posting. It does not reflect reality, the whole thing is a sham. The moment you click accept on those ToS you are deceived.
Posted by Wintereise, 03-05-2012, 03:40 AM
OP, I'd give up at this point and move on if I was you, lol. It's obvious you're arguing with a bunch of people who're dead bent on proving you 'wrong', no matter what stance you take.
Posted by euronet063, 03-05-2012, 06:24 AM
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Posted by farahjira, 03-05-2012, 09:36 AM
Yes it is obvious . I am waiting on WHT mods to remove this thread, since I emailed netmagics and said I would remove all my bad reviews and stuff.
Posted by sam0, 03-05-2012, 10:04 AM
So you're saying you agree with OP's attitude and course of action? It's extremely unlikely that thats going to happen, WHT isn't in the habbit of removing threads, otherwise users could blackmail hosts.
Posted by farahjira, 03-05-2012, 10:24 AM
No you blabbering fool, he's just stating the obvious. The mere stating of facts does not subscribe one to a side or the other. Well, what do I care if WHT removes threads or not? I kept my word and requested it.
Posted by KMyers, 03-05-2012, 10:30 AM
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Posted by farahjira, 03-05-2012, 12:22 PM
Shall I consider this a divulgation of the fact that you've met an 8 year old who far supersedes your intellect before? EDIT: I could go on with this sort of thing for months just for my personal entertainment. Most people visiting this thread have the IQ of a donkey it seems (only those who can't see issues past words). Nonetheless, I have decided to no longer reply to this thread. It is up to WHT to remove the thread if they so decide. I guess this means that poor european dude can't have his last say. Sorry european guy. Last edited by farahjira; 03-05-2012 at 12:32 PM.
Posted by KMyers, 03-05-2012, 01:37 PM
No, only an 8 year old would act the way your acting. While I may not be the oldest person in this thread, I am sure that the community will agree that I have anything but the IQ of a donkey. I have pity on the next host you go with.
Posted by SunShellHosting, 03-05-2012, 01:58 PM
So you are using these kind of cheap language and increasing your post count so that WHT mods remove this thread? What makes you not think that they will not ban you from WHT permanently ? It looks like freehosting has the problem. Your site appears down for me. Did they suspend you ?
Posted by sam0, 03-06-2012, 12:26 AM
You have already been proven to be in the wrong in this topic, regarging lack of reading ToS, and legality of ToS. So when someone says that everyone here is hell bent on proving you wrong no matter what, then that indicates said person doesn't agree with the evidence, thus supporting your position. As with almost everyone who has replied in this thread, I agree you're very immature, and I'd recommend that you stop replying with the immature responses as you're just making yourself look worse, and as it seems your real name or at least your 'normal' username is attatched to this thread, then anyone googling you would be able to find this. Come back to this thread in a few years once you've matured a bit more and I'm sure you'll be as disgusted as we all are with your behavior. I wish the best of luck to whoever you decide to host with next (free or otherwise), as they'll certainly need it.