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Posted by EasterGift, 04-06-2004, 01:39 PM
Hello, I have a reseller account on there Plesk server since more than one year. Now, since last 2-3 days they have continues problems on this server. We had opended few tickets & tried to contact them on AIM but we did not received any reply. There forum was full of complaint till yesterday. Now they had closed it & also the home page, eryxma.com, is also not working. Non of the service on server is working at this time. Our clients are complaining as this is hurting their business, as well as ours. I think, Eryxma, is one of the worst company & soon going to create a history like Cyberwings did. Now they are sending billing invoice, which indeed looks like a fraud. They are making fraud like Cyberwings did few years back. Eryxma Suck....

Posted by binaris, 04-06-2004, 08:22 PM
Limynali, I'm sorry you're experiencing problems there. I still talk to Patrick on a regular basis and will try to convey a message for you as soon as possible. You can try getting ahold of Joe at (888) 471-9683.

Posted by NexDog, 04-06-2004, 10:55 PM
http://eryxma.com/ is up for me. Hope you get your issues ironed out. (Forum is down for "database repair" )

Posted by binaris, 04-06-2004, 11:23 PM
Oops, wrong person. Pat's in the process of moving, I believe, and Matt is on vacation. Your best bet will be calling that number.

Posted by harraton, 04-08-2004, 08:54 AM
Eryxma still appears to be down. The 888 number you provided does not work, nor does the phone number they have in the title of their main page. Eryxma Networks - Call us today at 1-(617)-395-4142 Does anyone know what's going on? Eryxma is down frequently.

Posted by NexDog, 04-08-2004, 09:11 AM
Yep, it does appear down now.

Posted by binaris, 04-08-2004, 08:39 PM
http://corp.eryxma.com/nagios/ (69.41.238.226) Patrick put this online not too long ago, you should be able to get some service/host info from there. I'll see if I can find any of the other numbers again...

Posted by binaris, 04-09-2004, 08:11 PM
Their latest number is (281) 627-8093. EDIT: One more... (281) 748-7683 Last edited by binaris; 04-09-2004 at 08:19 PM.

Posted by DDoodler, 04-09-2004, 08:13 PM
Thanks a lot binaris... that should prove to be very helpful to all of us Eryxma customers...

Posted by Soze, 04-10-2004, 03:53 AM
After a lot of downperiods last month (luckily most of them where not much longer than 1 hour), my site is down now for about 17 hours. It appears that the whole hn7 node is down (when looking at traceroutes). The real problem is that I did not receive any reaction from support (I already informed them more than 16 hours ago in different ways). I just need to know something, e-mail is very important for me right now.

Posted by maxhest, 04-10-2004, 10:50 AM
The main site is up including support area.

Posted by Fibe, 04-10-2004, 12:12 PM
5 days ago, our server started acting weird. The mySQL databases would stop running. We had a VPS account. Anyway we found out it was a memory problem and we contacted eryxma. They shut down account and said they were gonna fix it. They turned it back on without fixing, and then few hours after that shut it down again. That was 5 days ago. Since then they have ignored all of our e-mails, tickets and messages over aol and msn. They are also not picking up their phone. We are extremly angry, since we just want to get our files from server so we can move on. What the hell is going on? And what can we do about it?

Posted by ayumi, 04-10-2004, 12:17 PM
My site (on HSP CP) is down for 24 hours. As for HSP CP, it works good till last March, but there were some downtime in this week. I hope them to be come back.

Posted by squeak, 04-10-2004, 12:45 PM
I know this doesn't help you *now*, but if your bandwidth will allow it, I suggest getting yourself something like CURL and writing yourself some nightly scripts that will archive your site's data and pull it to your home system automatically. I learned this lesson several times after having my data go AWOL because of a webhost. Since then I've never lost more than 24 hours. At one host I used mysqldump, tar, and mutt to e-mail myself the nightly backups every night, and at my current one I use a VBS script on my home system that uses curl in conjunction with a cron job that runs mysqldump and tar on the host to get myself a backup nightly without any effort on my part. My data only consists of about 150MB compressed so I'm only using about 4.5GB of my bandwidth monthly and IMO that's a small price to pay for peace of mind. I'd be more than happy to help you out in setting this up when you get your site back in your posession.

Posted by binaris, 04-10-2004, 01:07 PM
http://www.webhostingtalk.com/showth...hreadid=257215 Another Eryxma thread, Fibe... get me on AIM if you don't get a reply from Joe anytime soon.

Posted by colorteck, 04-10-2004, 01:17 PM
Take a move to www.ev1servers.net and get a better deal and response. Good luck!

Posted by ayumi, 04-10-2004, 08:39 PM
My VPS (HSP CP) at eryxma is getting back online now. As squeak said, I need a backup every day.

Posted by binaris, 04-10-2004, 10:18 PM
sandee29, these are not dedicated servers... That comment was way OT, regardless.

Posted by placrosse, 04-12-2004, 10:19 PM
For those interested, I have tendered my resignation at Eryxma and have made an announcement regarding it here: http://www.webhostingtalk.com/showth...hreadid=259713

Posted by phlojo, 04-13-2004, 10:37 AM
yeah, leave eryxma.com they suck! joe is kinda cool, when he actually answeres your messages... but the servers are slow, overloaded and they go offline very often.... I've got a new account with tektonic, and am about to cancel my eryxma vps...

Posted by dsotmoon, 04-13-2004, 07:49 PM
hollow cow! I really dont understand those that have alot going for them, yet they just let it go

Posted by capnqwest, 04-14-2004, 03:19 AM
Thanks Patrick for confirming what many have suspected. You and Matt were great and I wish you luck in the future. I would advise all us Eryxma customers to check your statements carefully as Joe has done some extra billing recently. Luckily, I have moved all of my clients over to a dedicated server for the time being but I still feel really deceived.

Posted by nova9, 04-14-2004, 08:57 AM
I would like to confirm that. My billing was to recycle in April 5, though on March 28 I saw a charge from Eryxma. I thought that maybe they did some changes for better adjustment, the amount was the same and the date was only a week before. However, when I saw an invoice generated on April 4, I immediately (in less than 30 seconds) sent an urgent ticket to the billing department address, to prevent another charge. Since then, after numerous e-mail requests and AIM messages (shiekron, was up for a day until yesterday and for almost seven hours today), not a single reply. My account is up and functioning without problems, but I already notified my bank to refuse another charge from Eryxma. I still can claim the money from the extra invoice generated on March 28, since my credit card statement will arrive next week, therefore I have 30 days to file a compaint and deny the charge. I wonder how Josuee (or what the hell it's his name) will try to resolve this. I also have good experience with Patrick, which was always helpful, but the only complaint is this: Patrick, if you knew the truth (the shang story etc), why didn't you warn us before? For how long you knew the real situation? Very sad situation. It's not that the kid actually intented to steal people (I don't believe it, for 2 years I never had any problems), but he is absolutely in no position to run a business dealing with professionals

Posted by ljprevo, 04-14-2004, 09:10 AM
I know this is off subject here, but a few years back I was looking for a certain script. I came across a post on Modernbill's forums and this guy, who happen to be eryxma.com, was selling a script. He sold me a program he claimed he made. This was to be for a Ensim server. After getting the code it would not work right. After researching the code it was a program that was made for a cobalt Raq that they tried hacking for ensim and passing it off as their own, even with the author of the cobalt based software still in the credits of some files. I confronted them about fraud and they promptly refunded my $$ and apologized to me, seeing after I informed the original author of the software. Last edited by ljprevo; 04-14-2004 at 09:18 AM.

Posted by MonaCK, 04-14-2004, 02:57 PM
Luckily, I had all of my accounts moved to a new host before this latest round of problems -- and I'm also very glad that the credit card that eryxma has on file is one that is no longer a valid one, so I know he won't be able to charge anything on it. I highly recommend that others get some sort of low level card that is -just- for webhost purchases, because while i've had some recent good experiences with webhosts, I am still incredibly leery, as you might imagine. I will never pay for a full year up front again -- I'll pay month to month even if it ends up costing me more, because that puts the power back in -my- hands to move if/when there is a major problem. Thank you, Patrick. Like others have said, you and Matt were the only ones who really seemed to care about customer support. I'm just sorry it's come to all of this.. As it is, it's been a nightmare trying to help others who I recommended Eryxma to move to more reliable hosts. Former Eryxma Customer, Mona

Posted by placrosse, 04-14-2004, 03:12 PM
Houston, we have a problem. This is turning into a personal nightmare for me, as I'm sure it is for all Eryxma clients at the moment. I'm currently in Chicago right now and not back in Texas until the 18th, but I've just learned that there were two fraudulent withdrawals made on my personal checking account, one for $400 on 04/08, and another withdrawal for $500 on 04/09. These were not authorized by me. Looking at the withdrawal slips online, I can clearly see this is not my handwriting, but the signature itself is so similar to mine its SCARY. Now, there's only one person in the world besides me who would do this, and who happens to know my SSN, my DL#, and my checking account and routing #. Anyone wanna guess who it is? If anyone has any doubt that I'm not pursuing this legally to the fullest extent of the law, please be aware that I'm working on it with my bank and local law enforcement. I see another Shawn White repeat in the cards here real soon. Serious case of deja vu for me. Down the rabbit hole we go... Regretfully, Patrick LaCrosse

Posted by nova9, 04-14-2004, 04:02 PM
Patrick, sorry to here about the latest problems. However, I want to ask again: for how long did you know about the real identity of this person? Why on earth you gave him such sensitive data for your account (you said "happens to know"... orI misunderstood and he got them using other means)? I see you're away at AIM, so I'll leave you enjoy Chicago :/

Posted by placrosse, 04-14-2004, 06:50 PM
nova9, c'mon... try to look at it from a rational perspective, and the answer becomes clear. At the time I learned of Josuee's background, did I approve of it? Of course not. If someone had contacted me privately and asked if I was aware of it, I would have been honest and admitted that I did. In the interest of protecting my only source of income, I wasn't going to be some whistleblower and break confidentiality between Josuee and I until the proverbial **** hit the fan. Surely you can understand the practicality of protecting my source of income, right? Sure, someone with less anxiety or fear of change might have left right then and there on principle, but I did not. Admittedly, that's my fault. Do you need any further explanation?

Posted by mainarea, 04-14-2004, 07:06 PM
Ouch... that's definitly not good. Best of luck to you in getting this whole situation solved. First Cyberwings (which I witnessed, I had a $1/year account with lots of space & bandwidth ), now this... hope you have better luck next time. - Matt

Posted by placrosse, 04-14-2004, 07:09 PM
I had loyalty to his company, that's it, and if anyone can see that's pretty evident, and has more integrity than my last two employers, please give me a chance and contact me if you need someone who will dedicate their blood, sweat, and tears to seeing its success.

Posted by capnqwest, 04-14-2004, 09:47 PM
I totally agree with you Patrick. I actually think it says a lot about your integrity when you busted your *** so often to help customers out even after you learned the real story. I think the efforts of you and Matt were able to save people like me by giving us enough time to move our customers to other servers. I just noticed now that Robert from Glexicon has acquired Eryxma's assets. Robert was one of the good guys too but I'm still not comfortable in hosting sites with anything connected with Eryxma. In fact, I've moved my customers to a much more expensive dedicated server for the time being. I may be paying 10 times as much and have to do a lot of server maintenance, but at least I can sleep at night, lol. Thanks again Pat for all of you help at Eryxma. As a customer, I can definitely vouch for Patrick being the kind of employee I'd want to hire if I was running a bigger hosting company. He has both technical and people skills- a combination not often found in this business.

Posted by antonbrk, 04-15-2004, 12:05 AM
Just wanted to add a vote of confidence to the opinions expressed here about Patrick, Matt, and Robert. I found them extraordinarily professional in every way, for the entire year and a half that I've been hosted by Eryxma. Joe was also very efficient and couretous in every exchange I witnessed on their forum, so I'm so sad to hear about this apparently disreputable conduct, if it turns out to be as bad as it sounds. I'll pray things resolve themselves and eryxma ultimately can continue it superior reputation for state-of-the art technology a a VERY low price (I am only a low-level customer there, but was impressed with what they were trying to do).

Posted by nova9, 04-15-2004, 06:17 AM
Now that we're in the subject, I'd like Robert to step up and explain about the real incidents when he left Eryxma (you know, the famous post in Eryxma's support forums). In brief, Josuee posted that Robert was irresponsible and left without notice and without anyone being able to contact him. Robert held a low profile in his answer, possibly because he saw the bubble that was going to explode and was willing to take the opportunity of straighten things up. Robert, Eryxma's customers would like a little explaining to stay with Glexicon after the move. As for Patrick, I can understand his difficult position, although I don't really approve it. However, he is one the best guys behind support desks and will be of great value to any host.

Posted by dericknwq, 04-16-2004, 07:05 AM
i'm confuse... if josuee is no where to be contacted.. how did glexicon acquire those eryxma's servers?

Posted by nova9, 04-16-2004, 08:26 AM
He was online in AIM until yesterday, so after realizing that he's in deep **** (and Robert realizing that the majority of Eryxma's customers with functioning accounts won't notice the latest incidents and stay with the company), took some money from here and there (extra billing, Patrick's account, selling of the company to Robert) and went to Mexico to start Mexihost. Well, you can forget the last part, but if Robert doesn't step up, we really don't know much more (but I believe I made a good case).

Posted by binaris, 04-16-2004, 09:31 AM
nova9, I most certainly will do so once things settle down. I am at this moment about to send out an announcement to all Glexicon and Eryxma customers detailing some much-needed information about this move. At this point, Phil Evans, Michael Borohovski, and myself are handling much of the support for Glexicon and Eryxma via email. As questions come in, we'll be trying to compile FAQ's and sending them out. More information will also be posted on http://www.glexicon.com.

Posted by Crudd, 04-16-2004, 09:44 AM
I find it very sad as I have been with eryxma for more than 2 years now and was globally happy with their services. I checked my account and I have been billed 4 times in a months but I am unsure of what I should do to correct this. I already emailed robert about the problem and I hope a solution can be found. Since yesterday i have been unable to check the emails on my account, though the HTTP and FTP side still work, but the plesk control panel is unreachable

Posted by nova9, 04-16-2004, 10:03 AM
Thanks Robert, I'm waiting for this since I AIMed and e-mailed you yesterday. I wish for the best in the future. Crudd, I asked about this subject too. The possible solutions are two: return the money or issue $0 future invoices for the amount of the months that we have been overcharged (one for me, four for you, if we stay). Well, there is the third solution of police hunting Josuee, which I suspect is not desirable :|

Posted by JaeWalker, 04-16-2004, 10:13 AM
I haven't been able to get into (or locate) my account management, and repeated requests for help have been ignored, so I have no way to tell if I'm being billed inappropriately. Now, at least, I have some idea why, but if one of the new owners could help me get into my account, I'd really appreciate it. My primary domain is jaewalker.net Thanks! Jae Walker jae@jaewalker.net

Posted by Crudd, 04-16-2004, 10:14 AM
yes but even after the sale Josuee will still have all of our credit cards number and could do whatever he pleases with them... I know robert is honest and will help us find a solution but it Josuee that really worries me.

Posted by nova9, 04-16-2004, 12:50 PM
I don't know if there is such possibility in that billing system (to print a list and walk out) or if the numbers were encrypted. Maybe Patrick can help here. However, you can either change the number of your credit card (I know, pain in the *** if you have a lot of services that use it) or watch carefully your statements and file a compaint for every charge you deny.

Posted by EasterGift, 04-16-2004, 12:57 PM
Services at Plesk server are not working since last 24hours. All seems down. Plesk cp also not working. We need to take backup of all our web sites so that we can more them on new server... What should we do now? Eryxma = Cyberwings

Posted by Crudd, 04-16-2004, 12:59 PM
ftp and http still works so I would say ssh still works too. go and tar.gz each account then send them to an other FTP and you can mysqldump the database.

Posted by EasterGift, 04-16-2004, 01:20 PM
how can I mysqldump each database since Plesk is not working? Thanks.

Posted by Crudd, 04-16-2004, 01:25 PM
just use the ssh mysqldump function, type man mysqldump for more info

Posted by DeepNorth, 04-16-2004, 01:26 PM
This is really lovely. Our company was burned in the Cyberwings fiasco and now this. Servers have been hosed since yesterday and there has been no answer to any of our tickets for more than a week. Mercifully we also host elsewhere so our own company site is still functioning. Shiekron (whoever he was...) was always reasonable to deal with for us. Despite the recent difficulties, it is a surprise that things have worked out as they have. Eryxma had been responsive over the past year or two and we definitely got our money's worth. My problem is the current situation with servers out of the water and no word from anyone as to what we can expect. I have been waiting since yesterday for an answer about the outages and have been waiting since this morning for some kind of acknowledgement that there is someone at the wheel. So far, I have heard nothing at all. I would like to simply recreate the service I had at the same price and get on with my life. Although our service was very low cost, we did not really consume that much by way of resources. We have 30-40 low traffic domains using about 1GB of space and less than 7GB monthly bandwidth. I can go to EV1 and get one of their 'cheapy' servers for $99 per month. I should be able to easily divide amongst 20 resellers similar to us. This would give each of the 20 a greater amount of disk space, redundant space for backups (about 20 x 2 x 1200MB) and much more bandwidth (greater than 20 x 25GB). This would work out to a cost of about $5 per month, per user such as us. If you buy it and then sell it for $10 per month that would be a better deal than we currently have. It is certainly doable in theory... Anyone out there from a *reputable* company willing to talk about either selling *to* us, or buying *from* us, at about the above prices? Note that, unlike many of the players in this industry, my company has been doing web hosting for more than five years. You can see at least one of our sites (I just checked) in the 'wayback machine' (http://web.archive.org) archived from 1999. It is easy enough to satisfy yourself just exactly who we are and how long we have been around. The company has been in business since 1992 and was incorporated in 1994. We are not likely to go away. I would consider our company to be reputable.

Posted by EasterGift, 04-16-2004, 01:45 PM
Thank you very much for your valuable suggestions. Regards.

Posted by nova9, 04-16-2004, 04:37 PM
Just FYI: - last hops of glexicon.com 16 350 ms 417 ms 410 ms l3-atl-4.gnax.net [209.51.134.66] 17 300 ms 400 ms 400 ms oberon.gxn.us [216.180.224.122] - last hops of cs1.gxn.us (csX.gxn.us will replace old cpX.myhostdns.org, Eryxma's WHM reseller servers) 18 428 ms 399 ms 400 ms gphou-66-98-241-126.ev1.net [66.98.241.126] 19 420 ms 420 ms 400 ms 67.15.96.21

Posted by guntersammet, 04-16-2004, 05:50 PM
That's what I got as an email today. Sorry can't post links, so I had to cut them out: NOTE: Please refer to glexicon dot com from time to time as this acquisition and resulting migration progresses for links to more information and status of the proceedings. To all Glexicon Communications and Eryxma Hosting Customers: Effective immediately, Glexicon Communications has officially acquired the assets of Eryxma Hosting, and is in the process of transferring all client data to an exclusive colocation facility in Houston, Texas. Clients located on existing Glexicon Communications servers will remain on these servers until 20 April 2004. All data will remain intact during the course of this migration and further, more detailed information will be distributed to current clients of Glexicon Communications and Eryxma Hosting regarding changes to addressing, procedures, and members of staff. A new corporate web site for Glexicon Communications, Inc. (Inc. Pending) will be partially in place following the migration of client data with more information regarding the acquisition of Eryxma Hosting's assets, as well as new services offered by Glexicon Communications, Inc. The current servers at Eryxma Hosting are Intel Pentium 4 2.0GHz (Plesk), 2.4GHz, or 3.0GHz systems, and the current systems at Glexicon Communications are based on the Athlon XP 2400 processor. The new Glexicon Communications servers are dual Intel Xeon 2.4GHz systems with 2GB of DDR RAM and dual 73GB Ultra SCSI 320 hard drives. These are Dell PowerEdge 1600SC systems in a private collocation area (not mere dedicated servers, as the former). We have quickly planned and are commencing a swift, smooth migration to these new servers and will bring online new support systems, as well as welcome aboard new customer service representatives, within the next few days. Below are the new client servers that will be placed in production Friday (16 April 2004) and Saturday (17 April 2004): cs1.gxn.us - 67.15.96.21 (Eryxma CP1, CP2) cs2.gxn.us - 67.15.96.22 (Eryxma CP3, CP4) cs3.gxn.us - 67.15.96.23 (Eryxma CP5, CP6) cs4.gxn.us - 67.15.96.24 (Eryxma CP7, CP8) cs5.gxn.us - 67.15.96.25 (Eryxma CP9, CP10, CP11) ps1.gxn.us - 67.15.96.26 (Eryxma PS1, PS2) vp1.gxn.us - 67.15.96.27 (Eryxma HN1, HN2, HN3) vp2.gxn.us - 67.15.96.28 (Eryxma HN4, HN5) vp3.gxn.us - 67.15.96.29 (Eryxma TS1, TS2) More servers will be placed online in the next weeks as demand and load necessitates. To maintain uninterrupted service, please follow the below instructions carefully, doing so within the next 24 hours. For current Glexicon Communications customers: A temporary Plesk 7.0 license will be put in place on oberon.gxn.us prior to the move to ps1.gxn.us. This move will take place 20 April 2004, separate from the move of Eryxma Hosting customers. All current Glexicon Communications staff will remain with the company through the acquisition and incorporation processes. All Glexicon Communications customers should change their DNS to the following: ps1.gxn.us ps2.gxn.us For current Eryxma Hosting customers: For Eryxma clients, please change your DNS settings for your domain(s) as instructed below. If your site currently resides on CP1 through CP11: (Currently 64.5.40.21 – 64.5.40.26, 64.5.41.252, 69.41.226.2, 69.41.226.4, 64.5.41.87, and 64.5.40.155) Change to: cs1.gxn.us (67.15.96.21) cs2.gxn.us (67.15.96.22) cs3.gxn.us (67.15.96.23) (Optional) cs4.gxn.us (67.15.96.24) (Optional) cs5.gxn.us (67.15.96.25) (Optional) If your site currently resides on PS1 through PS2: (Currently 64.5.40.19 – 64.5.40.20) Change to: ps1.gxn.us (67.15.96.26) ps2.gxn.us (67.15.96.30) If your site currently resides on HN1 through HN5 or TS1 through TS2: (Individual IP’s for each VPS node) Another announcement will be sent addressing procedures for VPS clients. New IP addresses will be sent to clients as each VPS is brought back online once it’s transfer has begun. Read below for more information. CPanel servers CP1 through CP4 have currently been backed up and all data has been transferred to new servers cs1.gxn.us and cs2.gxn.us. CP5 and CP6 are being transferred to cs3.gxn.us at this very moment. Other CPanel servers will be transferring tonight and tomorrow to the remaining cs*.gxn.us servers. Plesk 6.02 server PS1 will be transferred to ps1.gxn.us tonight, and Plesk 5.05 server PS2 will be transferred to ps1.gxn.us, also (these two systems are quite under-loaded and will be merged without any complication.) HSPcomplete VPS customers will be upgraded to the improved Virtuozzo VPS nodes at no additional charge. Current Virtuozzo VPS customers will have their accounts transferred as they are currently. IP’s for all VPS customers will be sent individually to each client as assigned. These will be within the 67.15.96.0/24 IP block. As stated above, please visit glexicon dot com from time to time as we bring up the new forums, support center, interactive voice response system, and live phone support line(s). If there are issues that have not been addressed in this announcement, please feel free to contact us at any time via the below email addresses. As we are still going through each mail individually, and compiling mass mailings in FAQ style to inform everyone of important information, response times may be less than immediate. With the opening of the support system, responses will be much quicker and more personal. Thank you for your patience, and welcome to Glexicon Communications!

Posted by NexDog, 04-16-2004, 09:41 PM
Sounds like some major reorganisation going on there. I sincerely hope that you guys regain the servive that you deserve. If anyone has SSH access and needs help in backing stuff up, tarring, wgetting, dumping and restoring databases etc, just let me know.

Posted by binaris, 04-16-2004, 10:23 PM
Yes, it is. Yes, they will. As the announcement stated, check up on the site every now and then. Tomorrow we plan to have more information so nobody feels left out in the dark. Plesk servers will be the first to come fully online on the new systems. Your sites will be forwarded to the new servers automatically once the data has been restored to minimize any loss of database data, etc. The servers will be upgraded to Plesk 7 as soon as the transfer is complete.

Posted by javierol, 04-17-2004, 05:09 PM
Hello, I was an Eryxma user. I changed the DNS to cs2.gxn.us as per your request yesterday. (I was on CP4 I believe) Please let me know when my site will be up again. I need to check my email. Btw, I sent an email to my eryxma account (greatvideos.org) from another address and it has not bounced back. Thanks Javier April 17, 2004 , 16:06 EST

Posted by maxhest, 04-17-2004, 05:26 PM
This is a crazy thread and one major reorganization effort. WTG glexicon for taking charge -Max

Posted by javierol, 04-17-2004, 05:29 PM
yeah, i´m sure everything will be great, I was just asking when I will be able to access my email? Thanks Javier AIM: javierol MSN: javierol@hotmail.com

Posted by binaris, 04-17-2004, 11:42 PM
Javierol (and many others with the same question)... We're wrapping up the migration of all 11 Eryxma CPanel servers simultaneously, and whereas we had hoped to have this done tonight, a few complications have pushed it to tomorrow morning. We're doing an all out transfer of 4-5 servers at a time tonight, and will be putting up temporary pages on your domains (unbranded) letting you know such. Once the sites are completely migrated, you will be able to reach it on the new servers, even if your DNS changes haven't yet propogated. At the same time, we're working on getting the two Plesk servers migrated. Eryxma PS1 has taken quite a long time, but is finally wrapping up it's restore process. Eryxma PS2 will be a bit trickier, as we must upgrade from PSA 5.05 Standard to 5.05 RPM, to 6.02 RPM, and then to 7.01 RPM. But it will get done. And to top it all off, forums, support desk, and support chat are being put online right now. The next week may be bumpy, but we intend to bring services up to par as soon as humanly possible.

Posted by FHDave, 04-18-2004, 12:30 AM
Robert, Congratulation for the purchase of Eryxma. Hope everything will work well with the migration/acquisition. Unfortunately for some of us, were we know Eryxma was up to sale, we would also like to buy it out too I may have skipped some of the posts here, how did you come to purchase/acquire Eryxma? Any plan to sell their VPS clients? Let me know (PM/email) if you do, we are especially interested with the VPS clients, especially since Eryxma and us are running the same VPS platform (HSPc). Again, congratulation and best wishes.

Posted by binaris, 04-18-2004, 12:57 AM
Dave, It was more of a transfer of ownership than a sale, but the actual acquisition of the clients from Eryxma is a bit to complex to discuss here. There are no current plans to sell any clients. We are currently using HSPc for some of the clients, but will be migrating those to pure Virtuozzo for more flexibility. We'll hopefully be able to integrate Vz with a control panel we have in development that will/can also be used for UML. Thank you for the congrats.

Posted by jtan, 04-18-2004, 08:21 AM
is it possible to request for higher version of php and also more complete library? for graphic stuffs like exif_data to work... thanks.

Posted by HostingSocial, 04-18-2004, 09:58 AM
No, the services are does affected. Plesk 2 down entirely, as far as I tried to connect it.

Posted by nova9, 04-18-2004, 11:00 AM
Just keep the old Eryxma servers up until the transfer is done, then keep them up for the end of the week until all clients change their DNS servers. We had enough downtime in the past already.

Posted by javierol, 04-18-2004, 12:50 PM
I am now able to download my email messages and the web page works, as well as ftp.mydomain.org Thanks a lot. Javier

Posted by javierol, 04-18-2004, 12:53 PM
When i try to send messages I get this error Cuenta: 'Greatvideos', Servidor: 'greatvideos.org', Protocolo: SMTP, Respuesta del servidor: '451 Error while writing spool file', Puerto: 25, Seguridad (SSL): No, Error de servidor: 451, Número de error: 0x800CCC6A

Posted by binaris, 04-18-2004, 01:05 PM
That is how I'd like to do it. But this situation is different... the current servers at ServerMatrix will be unplugged, as the account is past due. That account has not been handed over, and understandably, The Planet is unwilling to provide an additional window. I am unable to retrieve the current license key from PS2, and neither license seems to be available for further upgrade. We're working on getting PS2 wrapped up as quickly as possible, however. I understand that everyone at Eryxma has had enough downtime, but as soon as this mess is over, I can assure we'll be maintaining 99.9% uptimes, backed by SLA's.

Posted by TomTech, 04-18-2004, 01:39 PM
I think my biggest complaint about Eryxma in the two years with them, was their lack of proper communications. I don't sit on these forums 24 hours a day, I don't sit on my E-mail 24 hours a day....I have a life. Getting an advanced E-mail stating that things would, or could, go down would have been nice....but NEVER happened. By advanced, I mean a day or two. I often would get an E-mail that was sent just prior to the downtime, but would not receive it until AFTER the situation was already resolved. Not good for me...not good for my clients. Enough of that...I have a DNS question. My name server of record shows: NS3.Eryxma.com NS4.Eryxma.com Not sure what I'm updating DNS to when those shown do not show up on any list you've provided. Good luck on the future...here's hoping the new staff is more reliable then the old. Tom

Posted by javierol, 04-18-2004, 02:10 PM
Also when I try to upload a file via ftp it says DISK FULL, please try later. I suppose this is a similar problem as the SPOOL error I get when trying to send email. Javier greatvideos.org

Posted by javierol, 04-18-2004, 02:10 PM
Also when I try to upload a file via ftp it says DISK FULL, please try later. I suppose this is a similar problem as the SPOOL error I get when trying to send email. Javier greatvideos.org

Posted by EasterGift, 04-18-2004, 02:20 PM
Why don't you pay the ServerMatrix their pending dues, so that they can plug the servers again. You must understand that your clients has paid the full service fees. They deserve the services not downtime. Now, the situation is very bad.... The same SLA was given by Eryxma. What happend? Where are the SLA & the guarantors? Will you please put the PS2 online as soon as possible? Do you have any ETA?

Posted by nova9, 04-18-2004, 02:23 PM
a) When will they unplug them? b) When will you complete transfer of CP8 and start forwarding to CS4? I understand that you'll have to forget sleep for the next few days, but we're a bit worried, as vital communication services (professioal e-mail addresses) need not stop working, as in the past.

Posted by nova9, 04-18-2004, 02:28 PM
I'll second this. Not only we paid, but we got overcharged also, so imagine the situation from our side. About the SLA, Robert was also part of the old Eryxma team, so being sceptical is valid.

Posted by TomTech, 04-18-2004, 03:13 PM
I really need an answer to this guys... Tom

Posted by EasterGift, 04-18-2004, 03:44 PM
And I really need Plesk server UP..........

Posted by ActuaryTm, 04-18-2004, 04:40 PM
Agreed. The old/former PS2 still appears to be down. Am attempting to be patient throughout this process, but difficult when my own clients want answers as they have been offline since the 14th, with sporatic service (at best) the two weeks preceeding the 14th. An update Robert, if you will.

Posted by jtan, 04-18-2004, 05:29 PM
my site went down. i hope things will be fixed soon. i would like to request for php graphic libraries turned on and the exif_data feature.

Posted by javierol, 04-18-2004, 06:29 PM
now I can send emails and upload via ftp Thanks a lot Javier greatvideos.org

Posted by wishgirl, 04-18-2004, 06:58 PM
Am I the only one who finds this sickening? Maybe we are all just commodities to you, but I would like to remind you that Eryxma's customers are actually human beings who are hurting because of Eryxma's bad business skills. Next week! I certainly hope its not that long before things are sorted out. All I want is my website to be up and running for long enough to back up my data, so I can go elsewhere. I'm annoyed that Eryxma customers weren't forewarned of the buy out and given the chance to do just that *before* the "bumpy" course was commenced. I agree. Those of us on Plesk have no choice now but to wait until Glexicon sorts out the mess so we get our data and move. My website and email are still completely down. Could someone at Glexicon please give an indicaion of when the Plesk servers will be fully up and running again? Are we talking hours? Days?

Posted by sunshines, 04-18-2004, 07:32 PM
I am so angry of eryxma, man. They took down websites for 20 hours now because of transfering sites. I read that have problems with payments of eryxma servers, as servers wasn't paid , so theplanet will shutdown the servers soon. they have 40gb disk in the eryxma servers. Do you really think that disk to disk transfer over network can not be completed in 20 hours? Do they use adsl or what? I think that they probably did not start the transfer yet. As message "Client data is in the process of being transferred " on glexion.com is like this for 2 days. Write opinions, please.

Posted by DonR, 04-18-2004, 08:36 PM
Robert, I understand that you are under the gun to get many websites moved to the new servers. Extremely difficult task if you have unlimited time, even worse with a deadline. You are asking us to be patient while our sites are DOWN. I have been patient. I am doing as you asked. You have stated that you will keep us updated. YOU ARE NOT. There is no useful information on glexicon.com. Been a mighty long time since it was updated. You have posted more information on WHT than on your own website. If you are going to go that route you had better put a link to WHT on your own website. If you want us to be patient, you have to live up to your part of the bargain. What is the real status? Personally I have two websites that were hosted on Eryxma. One has been successfully moved from CP5 to the new CR3. Everything is working fine, including my PHP and MySQL stuff. Thank you. The other was on CP7 and that has been down for close to 2 days. According to dnsreports that websites nameservers are not responding with my info. And I have done my part as you requested and I have changed my DNS servers. If you want us to be patient, then you have to do what you have promised to do. You must take a few minutes every 4 hours to give us an updated status. That few minutes may help you to keep your customers! You must make comunications you highest priority! Thank you, and I hope you can successfully get through this and become a successful host

Posted by sunshines, 04-18-2004, 08:44 PM
I think they will keep eryxma route, no information to users, they will think that this is enough to say: be patient. Their updates are not updates, we find more info at 3rd party forum. They have been putting up a forum more days, like they will program them.

Posted by TomTech, 04-18-2004, 08:59 PM
Found that I can access the Admin page to my domains. The new server names are showing there. I just hope the email system stays active. I hope we all have a better relationship with the new outfit. Tom

Posted by DonR, 04-18-2004, 09:34 PM
If you have not been able to back up your CPanel website, you may be able to access your control panel using the address cs1 . gxn . us / cpanel. (or whatever your CS number is for your server). Please not that you must remove the extra spaces from this address. If you cannot access your domain directly then this may or may not work, but it is worth a try. (By the way, in my message a couple of posts back I made an error and listed my new server names as cr3 and cr4 instead of cs3 and cs4. My DNS is set up properly, just didn't check my info before typing my post here.)

Posted by EasterGift, 04-18-2004, 11:47 PM
Will you please tell us, how much more time you are going to take to put our web sites up...

Posted by binaris, 04-19-2004, 12:40 AM
Please refer to our forums for more information. We will be posting all available information ASAP and will also begin allowing public posting as soon as the categories, etc. are set up. forums dot glexicon dot com

Posted by milbro, 04-19-2004, 01:16 AM
Is Eryxma/Glexicon down, or do I need to do something with DNS? I have the basic shared hosting package, and several sites which are inaccessible (the control panels are not) -- the domain names for the site also ping with a different IP, so I'm wondering if I need to change the DNS settings in WHM? I did receive an email from Robert Hinjosa vis-a-vis Glexicon's buyout of Eryxma the other day, but didn't realize what it was and deleted same. Would appreciate it if anyone who knows if/what I should change (or do I just wait?) would post back and let me know what's going on. Thanks in advance! -Max

Posted by javierol, 04-19-2004, 01:24 AM
go to your registrar and see what dns servers you had. Then check the glexicon forums for instructions, see what new dns servers you need to change and go back to your registrar and change them

Posted by Soze, 04-19-2004, 04:51 AM
Regarding the HSPc VPN servers: the nameservers for my site (bedaux.net) are correctly set to dns1.myhostdns.org and dns2.myhostdns.org. Those nameservers are working, BUT... in the SOA on myhostdns.org, the master DNS is defined to be dns1.eryxma.com, and guess what, that server does not exist anymore, so my site is completely unreachable (except by IP, but who knows my IP address?) and mail is bouncing. domain name is bedaux.net (mainly used for important mail), maybe it is still reachable on some places? I think this is a stupid misconfiguration that causes unneccesary downtime because the server and dns servers are still up, Robert, can you correct it? Will the nameservers stay at myhostdns.org? Also, I think some VPN customers will have their nameservers still set at dns1.eryxma.com and dns2.eryma.com because I was always told that these where OK too... probably they need to be changed to dns1.myhostdns.org and dns2.myhostdns.org? Edit: P.S: my site is on server hn7

Posted by sanhedrin, 04-19-2004, 06:35 AM
I took a look at the new forum at the glexicon site, and it looks like you are supposed to change your registrar information to point to new nameservers.. although they didn't specify hn7 specifically. "If you have not changed your DNS to CS1.GXN.US and CS2.GXN.US yet, please do so immediately."

Posted by Soze, 04-19-2004, 08:41 AM
Thanks for the suggestion, but this information is not valid for VPN servers, they specially said that information for VPN servers would be sent later, but I never received anything yet. The gxn.us DNS does not resolve my domains. Anyway, it looks like everything is taken down now, nameservers, VPS servers, nothing responds to ping or anything else anymore in the old datacenter. I hope things are transferred already...

Posted by sunshines, 04-19-2004, 09:13 AM
Hope is everything you can do when mention Eryxma

Posted by EasterGift, 04-19-2004, 01:03 PM
Why don't you answer our questions here? I visited your forum which is all empty. There is not much information which can provide satisfactory answer. Here is what is mentioned for PS2 server. Do you think these are sufficient details for the users who are down since last one week? COME ON provide the complete details and PUT the server up....

Posted by ActuaryTm, 04-19-2004, 02:23 PM
Appears to be down. Was functional an hour or so ago.

Posted by antonbrk, 04-19-2004, 02:38 PM
URL tested: glexicon dot com Status: Connection error - Connect failed Server Status: Connect failed Response time: 3.2208 seconds Although everyone, I would hope, is deeply grateful for Robert and Co. for trying to remedy things, and for taking on this huge responsibility so suddenly, and although few clients expect miracles under the circumstances, I would still think that teeny, weeny, status posts dictated to someone over there, who might immediately post them here, would be a really good idea right now.

Posted by Keiichi, 04-19-2004, 02:43 PM
So this is what's been going on with Eryxma this whole time? I found Eryxma's site not working and I had to do a google search and look what I find? Glexicon and all this stuff, all the info packaged into this WHT forum unrelated to these for me to find out what was going on. How sad. No prior emails or anything, as people mentioned... Luckily, my website stuff is not very important. By the way, the people who said about the "early billing"? What was that? I had that also, although it was only about a week earlier than when I usually pay, but still suspiciously early.

Posted by javierol, 04-19-2004, 04:23 PM
Hello, The web page is still working but I cannot access my email or do ftp. Something about the password being wrong. It was working earlier as per my previous posts. Thanks Javier greatvideos.org

Posted by antonbrk, 04-19-2004, 09:54 PM
Are you confirming that "Shang" is the same person as "Joe Sheikron"?

Posted by antonbrk, 04-20-2004, 01:00 AM
oops, ignore my post (wrong forum)

Posted by jtan, 04-20-2004, 02:25 AM
any news so far? i wonder if they are overwhelmed with email. is there any promised date so far as to when everything will be going well?

Posted by binaris, 04-20-2004, 02:29 AM
All clients have been backed up and transferred. All CPanel servers will be online today (4/20). Plesk server is fully operational, but clients on Eryxma PS2 need to be upgraded and restored on the new server. VPS clients are being transferred but will still need to be restored. Check the forums occasionally. It's a bit of a mess right now, but we're getting the questions answered. (Forum expansion tomorrow.) Off for some rest now.

Posted by sunshines, 04-20-2004, 06:51 AM
Hinojosa, do not give promises every day, as you do not keep them. Things still down. YOu even said minmum downtime after treansfer, but 2 days could be minimum only for eryxma or you.

Posted by guntersammet, 04-20-2004, 06:59 AM
Thats what I get at glexicon dot com: Default PLESK Page
Plesk logo

This is the Plesk™ default page

If you see this page it means:

1) hosting for this domain is not configured
or
2) there's no such domain registered in Plesk.

For more information please contact

I can't login to cs3 and I am getting disk usage warnings. WHAT A MESS. HOPE THIS IS OVER SOON :-(

Posted by metamatic, 04-20-2004, 09:37 AM
I didn't get any mail from Eryxma. I didn't get any mail from Glexicon either, because they're apparently too slapdash to have bothered to configure their mail servers correctly, and they're claiming to be a host which doesn't exist: rhinojosa@glexicon.com rejection: bad_helo returned DENY: no MX or A records found for hyperion.gxn.us I've gone to the glexicon home page, and it's a PLESK holding page exactly like the Eryxma one. The gxn domain gives me a completely different company, Full System Inc. So at this stage, I'm having a hard time believing that Glexicon is any less unreliable than Eryxma. Anyone want to suggest a new web host?

Posted by javierol, 04-20-2004, 12:39 PM
Everything was working for me until two days ago, when I started getting this "password incorrect" message. I was also able to use ftpo and cpanel, but not now I tried using the password reset and got this message Resetting password for user: A confirmation email has been sent to the email address on file. I have not received any email messages at the other email address I had on file for contacting me. So no email, no ftp. Only my web page works. What do people suggest? Javier greatvideos.org

Posted by nova9, 04-20-2004, 01:03 PM
Wait for the next 12 hours (as binaris said all servers will be up today). If they aren't up, then I'll guess that many of us will change ship. We had enough already.

Posted by javierol, 04-20-2004, 01:35 PM
My problem seems to be different. Everything WAS up 3 days ago and worked fine for over a day. They even fixed the disk space problems (see my previous posts) but about 36 hours ago, I started getting these password errors and now I cannot read/send email or upload. Webpage has been workin fine for the past 3 days. Javier greatvideos.org

Posted by EasterGift, 04-20-2004, 02:21 PM
Robert, how much time you are going to take to put PS2 up? Is there ETA? As you peple can see, Robert is also breaking promises & keep on delaying the things... I am sure he is no different than the Joe... Since they both had partnership & friendship tooooo.......... So, Eryxma = Glexicon = Cyberwings Do not consider going with Eryxma/Glexicon till next 1 year... until you find any positive feedback about them.... They all suck...

Posted by metamatic, 04-20-2004, 02:31 PM
OK, Glexicon's web site appears to be there now, and I can log in and see my account... I'm gonna go over to the Glexicon forums and see if I can work out WTF is going on!

Posted by javierol, 04-20-2004, 03:20 PM
Their forums are working, but one must register to post and I cannot complete the registration process.... oh well Javier greatvideos.org

Posted by EasterGift, 04-20-2004, 03:38 PM
what do you get by registering at their forum? while most of the servers & web sites are still affected. they have also closed most of the threads & u may not post new thread also.... regards

Posted by rusko, 04-20-2004, 08:12 PM
with no deference to robert's character, as i am completely unfamiliar with him, here is what i've got to say about this: be patient. glexicon's forums complete with updates on migration status seem to be online. post your issues there and help them debug if something is wrong. although i understand your frustration, loudly complaining about glexicon is akin to a guy who jumped off the sinking titanic complaining that the rescue ship is saving women and children first. i wish you and glexicon the best of luck working through these issues. paul

Posted by DonR, 04-21-2004, 06:15 PM
My websites are all up and running now. However for the last couple of hours Glexicon's own website has been "Service Unavailable" for the last couple of hours. Any information on that?

Posted by DonR, 04-21-2004, 06:47 PM
Answering my own question. www . glexicon . com is down but forums . glexicon . com is still up.

Posted by javierol, 04-21-2004, 07:11 PM
Consider yourself lucky, because 1) my site works but I cannot do ftp or get/send email because of the password problems (see my previous post) 2) glexicon forums do not work for me, and even when working, I could not register, And even if I did register, that would not make my email work. Javier greatvideos.org

Posted by antonbrk, 04-21-2004, 09:47 PM
Can't reach glexicon . com, forums . glexicon . com, nor my two sites, no ftp, no cpanel, and cs3 . gxn . us/~myusername no longer succeeds in bringing up my pages. Anyone else have any information? If this has been going on for over an hour, you have to wonder why the heck no one at glexicon has thought to post something here. I guess they are too busy right now. Is it possible their data center pulled the plug? Last edited by antonbrk; 04-21-2004 at 09:56 PM.

Posted by antonbrk, 04-21-2004, 10:30 PM
are their any glexicon clients or staff out there who have any news at all? what a bummer.

Posted by kiopaa, 04-22-2004, 12:11 AM
It's 8:00 AM GMT and the Glexicon servers haven't responded to ping for around 3 hours or so. I had moved my clients to a new host already and their DNS has propagated so they're ok, and I was in the process of hunting down any stray emails on their old sites on the CS(n) servers when the servers disappeared. I and my few clients have been very lucky with only a couple of days of interrupted mail and little if any data loss, due in part to the recovery efforts of Robert and the folks helping him there. Many, many others are nowhere near as lucky, and it chills my blood to read about the catastrophic loss of business and reputation people are suffering due to the selfish acts perpetrated by the responsible person or persons at the former Eryxma. Shame on them, and on anyone who ever lets them even get near computers or networks again. - Kiopaa

Posted by TomTech, 04-22-2004, 12:27 AM
I always try and give the benefit of the doubt. Robert had quit Eryxma because he had conflicts over how the company was being handled (or something along those lines.) I would like to think that he's trying his best, and that there is some beyond-his-control reason that everything, including their own site, has fallen down. Don't get me wrong: I don't appreciate any of this either...and I'm trying to keep my one-and-only client calm. I do feel for the folks out there who have a larger livelyhood and such on the line. I hope that this is just a clitch, and that things will finally settle out. TomTech

Posted by DarkRay, 04-22-2004, 12:30 AM
Seems like they are up again....

Posted by guntersammet, 04-22-2004, 12:47 AM
I jiust got another email (second this month) from Eryxma billing. Make sure you check your statements and notify your card company to decline any charges from Eryxma. G.

Posted by TomTech, 04-22-2004, 12:58 AM
Had not thought of that... Thanks for the advice. My site is back up as well. Glexicon is not though. TomTech

Posted by nova9, 04-22-2004, 06:30 AM
I received a notice from my monitors 15 hours ago. Since the transfer was completed yesterday for most of Eryxma's old clients, I was expecting no more problems with the new servers. I wonder what the cause of the "unexpected routing issue" is, as well as the extra charge another old Eryxma client mentioned above. I'm holding myself not to shout here. Are there any reliable hosts (meaning: adults, with offices, real addresses and telephone support, more than 3 years in the business, registered with their local authorities; not kids that lease servers from others and occasionally handle support tickets from their bedrooms, between 4:20 and 4:20) that can offer a WHM/Cpanel reseller package with 2,5 Gb space, 50 Gb transfer, 2 IPs for about $30?

Posted by sunshines, 04-22-2004, 06:34 AM
nova9: Yes, for 30$ you will get another hell of erxyxma.

Posted by sunshines, 04-22-2004, 06:37 AM
Nova: where did you got the message?

Posted by sunshines, 04-22-2004, 07:02 AM
Robert, what is going on there. Post the explanation here, what are new troubles. you should at least make a forum outside

Posted by jtan, 04-22-2004, 07:29 AM
server is offline! any idea if glexicon is still serious about their business?

Posted by sunshines, 04-22-2004, 08:04 AM
Everybody, if you can go away ASAP. That is not buisenss anymore. No news, updates, donwitmes for days, etc.

Posted by harraton, 04-22-2004, 08:08 AM
Here is the update from the Glexicon homepage ATTENTION Due to an unexpected routing issue with the Verio backbone from Dallas TX to Houston TX, Glexicon Communications servers within the 67.15.96.0/24 network are currently inaccessible from outside the internal network. When performing a traceroute to an address within this block (i.e. 67.15.96.10), you will notice the issue as a constant loop between Verio and the previous hop. We apologize for any further inconvenience this may cause, and are working with NOC technicians to resolve this issue as quickly as possible, however there is currently no estimated time of restoration.

Posted by Wako, 04-22-2004, 08:10 AM
Just wondering if erxyxma and Glexicon related some how?

Posted by nova9, 04-22-2004, 10:06 AM
Sunshines -> for $94 (59+35 for support), we can get a dedicated server (split between 3 people) from ValueWeb, which is a reputable company, with way more space and bandwidth. Here goes the $30. The same with EV1. Wako -> This is what we know so far: Robert Hinojosa, "worked for Eryxma" (Eryxma was supposedly "a subsidiary of Odisee corporation", "owned by Robert") and "left from Eryxma" some time ago "for personal reasons". Soon after "he left", he mass mailed Eryxma customers to "inform" them about his "new company", "Glexicon"., because he wanted them "to know about the new direction" he was taking, after Eryxma. Robert also posted in the Eryxma "support forums" and "Joe Shiekron" responded that he was "unable to contact" him for many days, "concluded" that he was "irresponsible" so he blocked Robert from accessing Eryxma's servers. The conclusion from all their posts (99% sure), was that somehow these people knew each other in person. Since Patrick Lacrosse (former Eryxma's main support employee) informed us that "Joe" is 18 years old and taking into account that I signed up in 2002, Robert must knew that "Joe" was a teenager (you can't claim that Eryxma is "a subsidiary of Odisee corporation" without even know the f*** is Eryxma's "CEO"). Questions arise: 1) Did Robert knew who "Joe" really is? Did they ever meet in person? If he knew who "Joe" is, why did he accept a teenager in "a subsidiary of Odisee corporation"? 2) Who is Robert (you know, after all these problems, you can't trust anyone)? In the old Eryxma forums, Robert sometimes spoke about gaming. Is this Robert (DEATH of KoV)? http://www.sss.org/uolunch/Archive/r...8/renfair5.jpg (sitting, with the hat, on the left) Is this Robert (Client Support Services, University of Memphis)? http://css.memphis.edu/support/image...l/rhinojos.jpg Is Robert Hinojosa a real person? One can only suppose that Robert is not "Joe" . "Joe", had very bad written English (mind you, English is my third language). VERY bad. If you examine his syntax, you could relate his language ability to his age. Robert believed that the extra charges from Eryxma, were "possibly the cause of a crontab error in CP1". Yeah, sure. So, that's why nobody answered tickets with billing issues during the end of March and a client reporting that he saw another charge from Eryxma yesterday? Two more clues from the old Eryxma forums: a) "Joe" said that he wanted to change the design of Eryxma's site, because "he didn't have much control" on it, as "it was done by a former employee who left". That was Robert. Later, Robert said that "Joe" knew very well why he left (can we please know too?). b) It seems that Eryxma had employees that moved often (as stated in forum messages and support tickets, when there was a period of time with lack of support). Was this only an excuse, or they moved around often because of other "problems"? Eryxma was based in Houston, TX. Recently, "Joe" announced that he opened #Studio 64 cafe (internet, games) and presented his new "concept", "Shiekron Wireless Networks". I can't think of anything else now, but if I do I'll definitely post it here. In the mean time, it would be suitable for Robert Hinojosa to "show some ID" and try to explain everything now.

Posted by Chad McCan, 04-22-2004, 12:47 PM
Wow, what a horrible situation for everyone involved. The customers lose because their service isn't provided, and the company loses because the customers will leave. It's unfortunate, but it happens every day. Hosts come and go. This is a rather dramatic tale though. I must say it's very interesting

Posted by DonR, 04-22-2004, 12:48 PM
As I mentioned a couple of days ago on the Glexicon forums, you can easily set up a temporary website and email forwarding so your visitors don't think you have dropped off the face of the earth. Some domain registrars, including NameCheap and Godaddy give you free url forwarding and email forwarding. Just use your free webspace that you get from your ISP to build your temporary website and then forward your domain to that free webspace for the time being. If your domain registrar doesn't provide this service, then you can get free forwarding for your URL and email from Zonedit . com. Much better to have a limited website with an explanation than no website at all. For your email you can use either your free mailboxes from your ISP or any other free email provider and set up the forwarding using Zoneedit . com or your domain registrar. By the way, in my experience email will bounce around the web for about 2 days when your domain is down. After that it will be returned to the sender as undeliverable. When using cheap hosts you always need to have a backup plan you can put in place quickly! I first used this plan back when I hosted on Cyberwings. I guess I don't learn from my mistakes, huh.

Posted by harraton, 04-22-2004, 12:50 PM
I'm just mad at myself not not making a recent backup of everything on my server. I got the original email that Glexicon sent out on April 16th, but it was filtered to spam, so I didn't see it until I thought to look there once my server was down.

Posted by nova9, 04-22-2004, 01:49 PM
A little more research into the recent problem... Glexicon announced: "Due to an unexpected routing issue with the Verio backbone from Dallas TX to Houston TX, Glexicon Communications servers within the 67.15.96.0/24 network are currently inaccessible from outside the internal network." As spotted in a previous post, Glexicon must use EV1. In EV1's forums, there is a post related to this problem: http://forum.ev1servers.net/showthre...threadid=44493 DC2 Network Status 04-22-2004 01:11 AM A problem with Verio developed in Dallas at 6:40 PM (GMT -5). This issue caused heavy loss and latency. We are now routing most traffic through DC1. 04-22-2004 04:21 PM I was not entirely correct. This event also affected DC1. It involved a router in Dallas that was not forwarding traffic... Randy Williams, CTO All times are GMT. The time now is 06:49 PM. Argh.

Posted by EasterGift, 04-22-2004, 04:32 PM
nova9, you did a great job by providing all these information. All your question are valid & must be answered by Robert. We had a very bad experience with Joe & Eryxma and someway Robert does associated with both of them and have to bear the responsibility. I had a talk with one of the employee of Eryxma, who supposed to work with them part-time while studing in school. I am giving part of my conversation with him, which was held on March 08, 2003. I had also talked with Robert many times online, while he had left Eryxma. At that time he was very angry with the Joe. I am searching for the stored chat conversation files, and shall post here if got anything related to the issue. Regards.

Posted by nova9, 04-22-2004, 07:23 PM
I'm sorry, but nothing should be kept secret. I remembered that there was a guy from Austria, working with them. His name is Christian Sutter (http://sutternet.info). In other news, Robert Hinojosa posted in Glexicon's forums that the issue is resolved now, but... you guessed right, it's not.

Posted by javierol, 04-22-2004, 07:33 PM
What ISSUE was resolved? I am still experiencing the same password problems as many days ago, and I am not the only one. (web site works but password is wrong, cannot read email or ftp) Now their forums are working at least so if they want they can at least read people´s complaints Javier diapason@soltel.com.uy

Posted by capnqwest, 04-22-2004, 07:40 PM
Christian was just a volunteer like Matt and was never a paid employee of Eryxma.

Posted by capnqwest, 04-22-2004, 07:46 PM
Both are still in high school.

Posted by nova9, 04-22-2004, 09:07 PM
http://www.webhostingtalk.com/showth...hreadid=175100 TrouT (about "Joe Shiekron"): "I went to him talking about I know who he was and he actually offered me a dedicated server to shutup about the fact. I remember talking to him in early 2001 when tacid met its demise. I was on his support staff, and he started crying to me about how his mom kicked him out of his house and how he has to live a miserable life with his father and his step mom..." Robert Hinojosa: "Wow, that's funny, the Joe I know lives in an apartment off of N. Lake Houston Parkway in Kingwood... alone. No sign of "step mom" anywhere. Are you trying to "ruin" Joe or something? You're wasting your time. However if you just wish to share information, go right ahead. Either way, I doubt what you say will sway away customers from Eryxma, if that's what your motive is. Eryxma has become a very stable host, and has weathered some troubling times with unprecendented strength." Bingo. Robert Hinojosa must knew who "Joe Shiekron" really was (see previous posts also). That means he knew that "Joe", "CEO" of Eryxma, "a subsidiary or Odisee corporation", Robert's company, was a teenager, unless of course if "Joe" lied about his age (but again he was 16 in 2002; come on, you can tell a 16 year old from miles away). Of course, Robert could be lying too.How could we know? I now remember that "Joe" posted pictures of "the new datacenter" (The Planet), after Eryxma changed servers 2 years ago (if I remember correctly). You could see his reflection in some of the photos he uploaded. With a little bit of tweaking, they could be used for further research by the police. The only problem is I didn't save any of them. Maybe archive.org caught that folder? EDIT: Another great finding! Patrick Lacrosse, said in his resignation letter (http://www.webhostingtalk.com/showth...hreadid=259713) that there was only one more guy working for Eryxma ("Joe" and Patrick were the other two): Matt Ezell. WHO THE F*** is "Robert C", posting 1 1/2 months ago in EV1Servers Forums, with the signature "Robert Cruz, Eryxma Networks Support Team - robert.c@eryxma.com"?!?!? "Ia m very very intrested on the "Private Rack - Deal of the Century", I want 3 , thing is I am worried about how they setup your server, I mean can we choose which server to be what? I mean I want some servers to be RedHat ES, some not, some RedHat 9, etc, I am wondering if Rackshack will be able to setup each of these servers with certain disk partitions (cause we use Virtuozzo and they need some special disk partitions). I currently hosted at theplanet, and this is only because I can specify which disk partitions I want, with RS i noticed I have to face whatever they give me with." This post (check the spelling and syntax) smells "Joe Shiekron". As a matter of fact, I could put my hand on fire that "Robert Cruz" and "Joe Shiekron" are the same person. Patrick said that his real name is Josuee Orti_z_. _ Robert_ Cru_z_ ? Come on! Robert Hinojosa, step up please. EDIT No.2: Yet another biggy! http://forum.rackshack.net/showthread.php?threadid=9644 Robert C: "I have been having recently trying to access my squirrelmail. When I try to log in, it doesn't do anything. Just sits there, waiting for it to do something. Once I fixed it by restarting postgresql , but now it does the same thing, it just sits there after you hit submit, you can't get anywhere. Restarted IMAP/POP3 and sendmail , same thing, also restart webppliance. Anyone know what to do next? I think this is going on with all PHP sites, well all php stuff. People been complaining they can't load PHP sites, but even though I can get to squirrelmail login page. Anyone? Here is my php info http://216.127.74.7/MyAdmin/phpinfo.php" Huh? "I have been having recently trying to access my squirrelmail"?!?!? Traced 216.127.74.7 -> bell.cyberdusk.com Domain name: cyberdusk.com Registrant Contact: CYBERDUSK Malgorzata Peron (info@cyberdusk.pl) +48601053941 Fax: Pozna 26 Gubin, Lubuskie 66620 PL Administrative Contact: CYBERDUSK Malgorzata Peron (info@cyberdusk.pl) +48601053941 Fax: Pozna 26 Gubin, Lubuskie 66620 PL Technical Contact: CYBERDUSK Przemyslaw Peron (hostmaster@cyberdusk.pl) +48601053941 Fax: Pozna 26 Gubin, Lubuskie 66620 PL Billing Contact: CYBERDUSK Malgorzata Peron (info@cyberdusk.pl) +48601053941 Fax: Pozna 26 Gubin, Lubuskie 66620 PL Status: registrar-lock Name Servers: DNS.CYBERDUSK.COM DNS2.CYBERDUSK.COM Creation date: 22 Nov 2000 15:53:21 Expiration date: 22 Nov 2004 15:53:21 CYBERDUSK.COM Server Type: Apache/2.0.40 (Red Hat Linux) Website Status: Active Reverse IP: Web server hosts 9 websites IP Address: 69.56.178.154 IP Location: United States - Indiana - Indianapolis - Theplanet.com Internet Services Inc Whois History: 5 records stored Record Type: Domain Name Name Server: DNS.CYBERDUSK.COM DNS2.CYBERDUSK.COM ICANN Registrar: ENOM, INC. Created: 22-nov-2000 Expires: 22-nov-2004 Status: REGISTRAR-LOCK www.cyberdusk.pl is... you guessued right, a hosting company in Poland! I'm tired now, I'm trying to get some sleep but every 5 minutes I discover something new! Argh, will check again later.

Posted by EasterGift, 04-23-2004, 03:41 AM
nova, you are doing a great research...

Posted by mastermal, 04-23-2004, 04:32 AM
Okay, I guess it's time for me to add a little to this conversation. My name is Christian Sutter, and, as nova9 said, I used to be a volunteer at Eryxma. After having been with them as a customer for a while, I got to know Rob better and he asked me to help out as a moderator at Eryxma's support forums, as I was always helping people out who had problems, and he believed I would make a good addition to his team. After a while, I also received access to the support center and handled about a thousand tickets before "Joe" cut me off. I admit to having known about Josuee, as somebody else, who shall remain unnamed, has told me the truth about halfway through my involvement with Eryxma. I never really got along well with "Joe", he made more mistakes in managing the company than anybody at Enron could ever have made. I told him once, too, and from then on, we completely stopped talking. Not knowing about Matt's complete and utter loyalty to "Joe" (at that time, I guess), I once went on ranting about him for half an hour, including the rhetorical question of why I haven't busted him yet. Half an hour later, an AIM window popped up. It was "Joe". He was threatening me and flaming me like crazy. (It turned out Matt had sent him our convo log). He cut me off from everything, from the servers to the support forums, telling me that he "never asked me to do anything anyway", saying he'd "f*** up my life", and I finally chose to leave this weird place, cancel my accounts, change all my passwords (another former Eryxma Client I know had his server compromised by Josuee after leaving). Rob tried to leave Eryxma not just once. He was very close to starting Glexicon a lot earlier than when he really did (end of 2003 - most people think he only did it just now), but Josuee always got hold of his servers and messed them up. As for Robert, I trust him very much, we are still friends today, albeit we have kind of lost contact a little before he started Glexicon. However, we still talk sporadically up to today. I know 1000% that Robert and Josuee are two different individuals. No need to discuss about their spelling etc. The biggest mistake he has ever made in his life was probably to get himself involved with Eryxma. I believe that he is a most excellent CEO, and together with a technical mastermind like Pat and the rest of his team, Glexicon was an amazing host, and I hope that this will still be the same now, after taking over Eryxma's assets. I wish him the best of luck, and I would probably work for him now, if my priorities and interests hadn't changed a little since then. Christian Sutter PS: I'm not in "high school" anymore. (Actually, I never was -we don't have this peculiar concept of education here over the big pond anyway.) PPS: @nova9: Joe didn't take these datacenter pics. That was some guy from the datacenter I believe.

Posted by sunshines, 04-23-2004, 05:42 AM
Christian Sutter : then if ROb is good business man, why he leave us without support for 20 hours a day ? Server have problems and sites are still not available many times?

Posted by nova9, 04-23-2004, 05:58 AM
mastermal: "I admit to having known about Josuee, as somebody else, who shall remain unnamed, has told me the truth about halfway through my involvement with Eryxma." Well, I bet I can find him, but since this may involve the law, you could make our lives easier, if you have nothing to be afraid of.

Posted by nova9, 04-23-2004, 07:13 AM
http://www.webhostingtalk.com/showth...60#post2042960 Patrick Lacrosse=Wes Trevino?

Posted by EasterGift, 04-23-2004, 07:28 AM
What kind of mistakes he did? Can you confirm if his age was 16 at that time of starting/running Eryxma? Thanks for sharing it with us.

Posted by sunshines, 04-23-2004, 08:29 AM
I think Rober is same age as the Jossue The Kid.

Posted by mastermal, 04-23-2004, 08:45 AM
@sunshines 1st post: I don't know and I can't tell you. Just think about how *easy* it is to move 1000nds of clients from one day to the other. @nova9 1st post: "this could involve the law" - huh? I have a lot to be afraid of that is, and if your idea involves anything that is against the law, I'm afraid no. Furthermore, as I already said, I don't care about all of this anymore, my interests and priorities have long since shifted. @nova9 2nd post: No. They are veeeeery different from each other. Besides, Wes hasn't been involved with Eryxma for ages. @EasterGift: I believe he was. Yes. But I could be wrong so please don't quote me on that. @sunshine 2nd post: Rob is 1 1/2 years older than Josuee. You do the math.

Posted by nova9, 04-23-2004, 09:14 AM
mastermal: "http://66.102.11.104/search?q=cache:ID4zwo0rRSQJupport.eryxma.com/%3F_a%3Dknowledgebase%26_j%3Dquestiondetails%26_i%3D8+%22wes+trevino%22&hl=en Hmmm, March 13, 2004. At that time, Patrick said that he was the only one behind the support desk." You said that "Wes hasn't been involved with Eryxma for ages". Look at the date: Article ID: 8 Author: Joe Shiekron Created On: 12 Jun 2003 Edited On: 13 Mar 2004 Edited By: Wes Trevino Views: 909 "Wes hasn't been involved with Eryxma for ages". Sure. As for "this could involve the law", as we all understand Eryxma wasn't a company with legal hypostasis. When further investigation starts, this will involve all parties related to it, in one way or another. That includes you and you will not be asked you if you care about it. Nothing personal, simple math. So, what news we have here? Robert Hinojosa is <=20 years old. Ah, great.

Posted by mastermal, 04-23-2004, 09:47 AM
I said Wes and Pat are different people. I don't know whether Wes = Josuee. I don't know anything about Wes. As for that, okay, I take it back. Second thing: When I was involved with Eryxma, I was a) little more than a customer with forum moderator rights (mind you, the forum was inofficial. b) a minor c) NOT living in the USofA, which I am still not. d) never doing anything immoral, illegal, or whatever the heck else. All I had heard of Josuee were *rumours*. So I really hope I won't have US gov't officials or the BBB in front of my house by tomorrow. Cause I'd tell them just this and politely ask them to p*ss off. I haven't done anything wrong, and I left Eryxma both as a customer and as a volunteer "supporter" far over a year ago. Period. All I know is the rumours that have been going around at the time I have been actively participating on EryxmaTalk. I'm sorry if anything is wrong, incorrect, etc. I'm not the one and only source of information there is here. I'm sorry for anyone who got burned by Eryxma/Josuee. But I guess anyone who has been reading through WHT from time to time had enough of a chance to decide whether or not to stay with Eryxma. What should I have done? Act as a whistleblower in a corporate lawsuit? Yeah, right, because of some rumours I have heard. I know these exact rumours seem more plausible now, but... Whatever. Have a nice afternoon and good luck with your next host, everybody.

Posted by binaris, 04-23-2004, 10:29 AM
I've made an announcement regarding this move on our forums as well as our main website. Mastermal, who are you? Wes has not been involved with Eryxma for some time, Josuee has several aliases he uses online, in real life, to obtain credit, apply for bank accounts, etc. And Josuee's age has little to do with his mental maturity. http://forums.glexicon.com/showthread.php?t=240

Posted by JaeWalker, 04-23-2004, 10:34 AM
Unfortunately you have it set so that no one can reply to the thread. Me, I would just like to get my stored data (particularly mail), even as a zipped or tarred file, so that I can get on with my life and business.

Posted by javierol, 04-23-2004, 10:43 AM
Do you think you could inform us when the sites will be fully working again My site has been working for a while but I cannot ftp or retrieve email because of the password errors. Do you think you will be able to make it work, and if you believe you can, can you give me an ETA? Thanks Javier diapason@soltel.com.uy greatvideos.org

Posted by ActuaryTm, 04-23-2004, 10:49 AM
Agreed. My tolerance for fictional fabrication and misinformation was exhausted quite some time ago. The "announcement" in the Glexicon forum regarding the migration (a majority of which now apparently was performed Shiekron/Josuee himself in these past few days) is unfortunately prevarication at its finest (or worst, depending on one's frame of reference). Will be certain to have my legal representation contact the appropriate authorities regarding this entire situation. Last edited by ActuaryTm; 04-23-2004 at 10:56 AM.

Posted by nova9, 04-23-2004, 11:03 AM
Mastermal is Christian Sutter, Wes appeared to edit a "howto" in 13 March 2004, "Robert Cruz" asked for information in EV1servers forums a month ago, you are 20 years old at most (and need to read out latest findings in this thread above), I've already denied the charges from Eryma, as well as any other future charge from Eryxma or Glexicon and I will shortly be in touch with your local authorities.

Posted by Joshua, 04-23-2004, 06:32 PM
What exactly illegal happened here? -Josh

Posted by nova9, 04-23-2004, 07:37 PM
You really need to inform yourself about the Eryxma fiasco. Read everything in this thread and follow all the links.

Posted by PCTrauma, 04-23-2004, 07:54 PM
Robert, I have three web sites that were hosted by Eryxma. Only one appears to be working. Although all DNS has been changed, only one appears to be routed correctly. The sites are: pctrauma.net therouxcollision.com ctpardons.com (the only one that appears to be working) PC Trauma, LLC Jim Therien Sales Manager pctraumallc@yahoo.com pctrauma.net

Posted by PostDeals, 04-23-2004, 10:05 PM
I have been with them for the longest time. I haven't had any problems, I use to speak with JOE and he would take care of me. Yes I lost a lot of clicks and business during the transfer and down time, but over 2 years or so I saved well over $200 in hosting fees. I am happy if this all is resolved soon and i can get into my CONTROL PANEL.

Posted by binaris, 04-24-2004, 02:44 AM
That couldn't be farther from the truth. We're attempting to make full disclosure. Nobody here is evading the truth. Please do. As I've told everyone else, that would be recommended as fraudulent charges have been made. However, I am certain we have commited no wrong doing. I ask you - try pinging an Eryxma server... 64.5.40.21, 64.5.40.11, etc. All unreachable. We were able to obtain backups. If you'd like to stay with us, we'll accommodate you, and provide exceptional service. If not, we can provide backups and delete your data from our servers, at obviously, no cost. This speculation is inaccurate, and personally offensive. Everyone is entitled to their own opinions though, and I understand that forming one on a company you have no prior knowledge of, during a sitation such as this, may be difficult; however, I ask everyone to wait until this is settled to make any decision on the quality of service we provide. Nonetheless, information will be posted on the Glexicon forums as available. Any posts in the Announcements forum are understandably closed to replies, but other threads are available for open discussion.

Posted by binaris, 04-24-2004, 02:47 AM
Please verify you are still having problems... we've been working on getting all services restored, and are nearing at least partial completion.

Posted by binaris, 04-24-2004, 02:52 AM
All are aliases. Real names of people he knows, but still aliases. Josuee Ortiz has used my name, as well as my company name, in the past. EDIT: To clarify some earlier confusion as well, I was just informed by Patrick that in fact some of Westley's (Wes Aeolis) activity were indeed his own within the past 1-2 months, primarily involved in assistance with helpdesk issues. The same applies for Ronald Kendrick (Josuee's roommate). Alright... I honestly don't see how that matters as long as one is legally able to operate a business and does so in a responsible manner. It's all about maturity, not numbers. We are located within the City of Houston, Harris County, State of Texas. Sole proprietorship status was obtained in Montgomery County in 2003. Incorporation filings have been submitted as of April 19, 2004 to the State of Texas. You can find information on Josuee here on WHT, but if needed I will provide any needed information for an investigation. Again, I feel our staff has done nothing wrong. Last edited by binaris; 04-24-2004 at 03:02 AM.

Posted by mastermal, 04-24-2004, 03:22 AM
Correct. I'd have said that as well. Robert is definitely more mature than many a 30-year old I know. Next thing will be that people call anybody ever involved with Eryxma immature...?! Honestly, if one person in a company screws things up, does that make everybody else immature too? As far as I know, it is legal to operate a business at his age. Unhappy? Okay. Go to some hosting company run by an 80-year old punchcard expert. Robert is the best CEO there could be. His company employs full-time support staff, unlike Eryxma. But hey, it's not like you haven't got the choice. Or did Robert hold up a gun to your neck and force you to continue hosting with Glexicon? Eryxma is an entirely different story. Blame Josuee for what ever you want, but please, please, leave Robert out of all this.

Posted by nova9, 04-24-2004, 09:57 AM
Facts: 1) Eryxma was an illegal business, run by "Joe under-age Shiekron", AKA Josuee Ortiz (or what the hell is his real name, can't trust anyone but the police right know). Wanna know why Eryxma was illegal? Ask your local friendly lawyer. 2) People who co-operated or "were employed" with him, knew that, but preferred to shut up about it. That's illegal. Personal reasons aside, that's illegal. Did I stress enough the fact that it's illegal? It's illegal. Period. Read the law. The last thing one would expect, is sermons about the "maturity" of those people and the "legality" of their actions. Actually, it's amusing to read such nonsense. Sure, mature enough to hide illegal practices. Kids, you're not in kindergarten. There is NO such thing as "I feel I've done nothing wrong"! In the real world, no one gives a damn about your personal feelings. There are facts and laws to take care of that. Of course there are young knowledgeable people running honest and legal successful businesses. The important thing is that you people lack the part of the sentence after "running". Face it, you were involved in illegal actions, one way or another. In your position, I would shut up about it and sit in the corner, not trying to falsify the truth and sweeten the pill. Sod off and stop being ludicrous, you're only making it worse. As a matter of fact, the only thing that you can do to defend your position, is to report Ortiz to your local authorities, since you knew him personally. Not doing so, especially after the fraudulent charges, is illegal too. If you don't, I would expect WHT to report your IPs to your local authorities, so that the matter can be resolved the hard way. Your call.

Posted by Soze, 04-24-2004, 10:17 AM
Well, whatever happened in the past, one thing is absolutely clear: Robert failed to make Glexicon an honest host. Everybody can verify he was just plain lying to all of the VPS account owners. Robert stated there were SWSoft engineers contracted that would restore all accounts in 24-48 hours. Now, 5 days later, nobody has heard anything about any SWSoft engineer. Also, there is noevidence of ANY VPS account being migrated or backed up. I am going to try to get back the money I paid for another 6 months of hosting. Robert, I have given you a fair chance, but you really f***ed up by having nothing done in a week, not even access to a temporary shared hosting account, and far worse, by telling only lies about when we would be back online etc.

Posted by mastermal, 04-24-2004, 11:00 AM
Sorry if I have caused you any trouble, nova9. I hope you have got better luck with your next host. I shall now "sod off", as you so politely put it. Last edited by mastermal; 04-24-2004 at 11:07 AM.

Posted by frogsandwich, 04-24-2004, 12:10 PM
Have you contacted the authorities? What have you learned? What else do you know about the identities of the Eryxma/Glexicon folks?

Posted by javierol, 04-24-2004, 01:42 PM
Has anybody been able to contact Glexicon and get a proper answer about the status of the migration? Also, I understand Glexicon existed before this, but if you see www.glexicon.com, there are no links or info for current users. There is no forums for existing users and of course there is no info about the compnay or way to join or price information. What is going on here? My site has been working for many days but I cannot update it or get my email because of password problems Javier greatvideos.org diapason@soltel.com.uy

Posted by maxhest, 04-24-2004, 03:35 PM
Intresting here: http://forums.glexicon.com/showthread.php?t=240%20

Posted by PCTrauma, 04-24-2004, 03:54 PM
It may be interesting to you, but to those of us who had Professional Reseller accounts on Eryxma, it has become a nightmare.

Posted by EasterGift, 04-24-2004, 05:20 PM
Agreed. Actually, Robert were aware of all these facts and he had failed to resolve the issues entirely. If it Joe who did the crime then Robert was also involved with him, knowingly. He should not hide the facts from the current Eryxma Clients (A Divison of Odisee Corp., owned by Robert) and from the laws..... why he still not able to put all the Eryxma servers back online? why he is running away with his responsibilities (http://forums.glexicon.com/showthread.php?t=240). Joe is indeed a criminal... who harmed all our web sites & businesses... we should fight against him and put he behind bars... otherwise he may dare to do so in future...

Posted by Justice, 04-25-2004, 01:01 AM
Still waiting for Robert to give a straight-forward answer about the lost databases =\

Posted by jtan, 04-25-2004, 03:04 AM
if there's anything i can do to help you guys put joe behind the bars just let me know

Posted by binaris, 04-25-2004, 03:12 AM
Just wanted to note... I was not there when any "crimes" took place, and Eryxma and OdiSee have nothing to do with each other. Josuee had used the name a few times before though, without my knowledge.

Posted by AussieHosts, 04-25-2004, 07:47 AM
??? If there is even the remotest chance the Tacid/Shang/Glexicon/Eryxma/Odisee/etc are not the same, I'll eat my hat. You've all been tied in together since 2001. http://www.webhostingtalk.com/showth...threadid=22117 http://www.webhostingtalk.com/showth...threadid=21713 etc, etc

Posted by N!cklas, 04-25-2004, 08:06 AM
This means that us who used to be on PS2 actually can get our data back in some way...? HOW? Willing to pay to get the data, since PS2 won't be back up for some "legal matters" as I read somewhere in the forums @ glexicon (that I can't reach - AGAIN..). Any more info on the PS2 story? //N!cklas

Posted by nova9, 04-25-2004, 09:55 AM
Helloooo, we're not bliiiind!!!! There are archived pages of Eryxma's site, stating "Eryxma is a subsidiary of Odisee corporation" and YOU posting in their forums as a support member, at the same period. PLEEEEEEEASE. That's ridiculous! Although there are different penalties for the several degrees of illegal activities, that doesn't mean that only murder is a crime. There is the definition of "deceit" and "economical crime" too. Some people...

Posted by NEO_RPM, 04-25-2004, 03:14 PM
Where are the glexion servers located? What data centre? I need to get a database from one of my sites off CP1, then RUN A MILE!

Posted by N!cklas, 04-25-2004, 03:39 PM
glexicon.com is at Global Net Access, LLC (Traceroute @ visualware.com) ...only one mile...? //N!cklas

Posted by binaris, 04-25-2004, 10:09 PM
No need to pay for any data. As soon as we get the psadump of PS2 restored you will be online on PS1.GXN.US. If you wish, you can go in and retrieve a backup of the domain. As stated on our forums (I really don't have time for nonesense here on WHT), we are continuing to restore everyone's sites. Please read our forums as well for updated information.

Posted by binaris, 04-25-2004, 10:12 PM
Eat your hat... They're not the same. End of story.

Posted by binaris, 04-25-2004, 10:14 PM
We have servers at DV2/GNAX, The Planet, and a private rack at EV1 (67.15.96.0/24).

Posted by AussieHosts, 04-25-2004, 10:29 PM
http://www.webhostingtalk.com/showth...5&pagenumber=4 I doubt there will ever be an end to this story Robert. Just different chapters and character names.

Posted by binaris, 04-25-2004, 10:45 PM
There is an end. I ended it last year. I absolved my relations with Josuee Ortiz. The only reason this has even come up was because there was nobody left at Eryxma and he sought an easy exit. I got involved again, bad move for Glexicon's reputation, but at least the clients can get backups from us. Eryxma's servers are down, including the dedicated clients' servers. Like I said, it's over. If people didn't understand that in October, they should be made aware now. I'm going to make an exit from this thread for at least the next few weeks while my staff (which does not include Josuee Ortiz, Joe Shiekron, etc.) and I try to get all this crap resolved. If you haven't noticed, we haven't shut down our servers, nor have we run from our responsibilities as a web host, because we're in this for the long haul.

Posted by torrents, 04-26-2004, 02:05 AM
Why go to such trouble making up all these online names and personas? I really am starting to believe a genius schizophrenic MPD might be involved here. How convenient that "Josuee" (aka fallguy) somehow has access to everything and has used your name, accounts, companies name. Some posts and companies under MY name were actually Josuee.. I've heard too much of it from you.

Posted by torrents, 04-26-2004, 02:24 AM
I apologize for the formatting and quoting people from the Glexicon forum, but I thought people might be interested in what "Robert" censored. He, surprisingly, has let a LOT of stuff get posted in his own forums, but I guess this hit too close to home. This post was removed. Enjoy. ======================================== http://forums.glexicon.com/showpost.php?p=2358&postcount=32 ======================================== Ok, so we know that "Shang" was involved with TacidBlue that mysteriously closed up shop and took off with people's money (I think even used the same over-billing scam). "Robert Hinojosa" must have know about this TacidBlue thing and continued doing business with "Shang", as "Shang" registered Glexicon and later transfered to "Robert" and Odisee, as confirmed by both whois and the above statement. Look it up in the WHOIS history. Also, Eryxma was done in the same manner. Another observation is that Eryxma was originally based off of Robert's reseller, so technically his. Also registered under Odisee. Technically Robert's. This helps explain how Robert, who LEFT Eryxma and spammed people about Glexicon, could just "acquire" Eryxma's accounts & billing & emails. No agreement, no money exchanged... hmm... Maybe this will shed a little light. (From Robert's current WHT account.) and this TIMEOUT!! Flags going up here.. So, Josuee (does he exist?!) started Glexicon? No? Just announced it? I don't care, this hurts my head. I will say that this sounds a lot like how Eryxma started.... You pulled out?? How do you get ALL of the data, account information, emails, billing, licenses, clients?? And then pull out? Conveniently it appears that somehow all the assests of Eryxma were transfered, but "no agreement" was reached. So there is no one who is responsible for everyone's lost months they were billed for. Oh yeah, I guess "Josuee"... In the Glexicon forums is a great deal of comments from "Robert" that imply there was no legal acquisition, he just somehow got all the clients and software licenses... Hey since you know him so well "Robert" please tell me how to contact "Josuee". Or better yet, tell me how to contact you (in real person, like a laywer might need NOT a PO box). Oh yeah, the PO box listed in WHOIS... anyone ever tell you the address for Glexicon is identical to Odisee and also Eryxma. Odd. In summary, - Eryxma was started by Robert (Odisee & reseller) - Josuee paid "rent" to Robert for Eryxma - Robert miraculously acquired all the assests of Eryxma - Double billing fiasco took place AFTER Eryxma was "acquired"(?) - Glexicon claims they aren't responsible for any money or hosting - We're supposed to believe Glexicon is doing us a "favor" Oh yeah, too bad for poor "Patrick" who claimed to have filed registration for Eryxma to be under his name in his resignatio thread.

Posted by nova9, 04-26-2004, 03:11 AM
This guy's real name isn't Robert. It's Robin Host. He is saving us from the bad, dishonest, illegal hosts. Fact: Robert "ended" his relationship with Eryxma last year (!). Soon, he spammed every Eryxma's customer (oh, sorry, "sent out an unwanted, not requested, informative electronic message") with his "new" old company's details, because "he felt like informing people who developed personal relationships with him". Heh. The truth is more or less that "Joe" and "Robert" "ended their relationship" in such a "friendly manner", that "Robert"'s orchestrated plan was to get Eryxma's customer base. Stop playing the "good, mature, professional guy". First, you claim you were not there while Eryxma used your "corporation"'s name (corporation? papers please). Then, after everyone showed you that you lie, you say that you ended your relationship with Eryxma, but you spam everyone looking for customers! Very mature. Extremely professional manners! If you are such a good professional and have nothing to fear, then why don't you denounce your old "accomplices", instead of hiding behind P.O. boxes and aliases? Is your life in danger? Should I fly over there and protect you with my hostsaber?

Posted by torrents, 04-26-2004, 04:21 AM
It's gonna take a LOT more to convince me "Robert" is not in league with these guys. If someone said "I'm gonna screw a few hundred customers out of money, do you want them after I'm done"... You wouldn't want to build a business out of that mess. Plus they are ALL still using the same PO Box from the Shang days. Just read this thread and cry that we've been taken by the same guy. http://www.webhostingtalk.com/archiv...d/10134-1.html Why didn't someone get to him back then?

Posted by torrents, 04-26-2004, 04:24 AM
Also this sounds about right.... Joshua Shang Ortiz. (from above thread)

Posted by torrents, 04-26-2004, 04:55 AM
Keep reading for more fun.... Under known CUSTOMERS of Shang.... binaris03@aol.com Robert Hinojosa I feel sick.. Now look at this.. http://www.geocities.com/online_scam/contact.html Last edited by torrents; 04-26-2004 at 04:59 AM.

Posted by N!cklas, 04-26-2004, 05:41 AM
I'm a swede, so maybe I misunderstand something here... Above is the text about legal matters found @ Glexicon Forums. It also states that you got 95% data. I read somewhere (that I can't find now) that all data is secured... What should it be? To us who believes they belong to the last 5% (PS2? - unable to log in to CP) this feels like cr*p (sorry 'bout the abusive word...) and all I want right now is to get my data and get away, which should be fine by you according to the announcement at your forums...

Posted by Kash76, 04-26-2004, 09:26 AM
I haven't been able to access cs2 for 2 days now. I just want my files and databases. Help please!

Posted by sunshines, 04-26-2004, 09:50 AM
Robert, I know you will read this forum, but instead of loosing time reading glexicon forum and this, put this f***k of your server cs2 up . we do not know what the hell are you doing for 2 days, to put a server up.

Posted by Chainhost-General, 04-26-2004, 10:13 AM
I heard about the other times "Joe" as he is known may have done this. Becuase this insane turn of events has cost me money as well as lost clients I will make sure I report this. I suggest everyone file a complaint against the owners of Eryxma. I'm no lawyer but I do know that fraud is rewarded with jailtime depending on how big the fraud is. In addition to jail $$$ fines are also possible. With the information that has come to light I believe all who are responsible should be brought to business. It's not fair when a company like ours pay rent every month. Has payroll has to pay taxes and registration fee's every year to stay in business and these idiots start something and then flee when they please. Everyone jump onboard www.ifccfbi.gov Giles Howell General Manager/ Owner Dynamic Computers LTD LLC www.dynindustry.com

Posted by torrents, 04-26-2004, 12:29 PM
All ex-Eryxma customers should report any fraud or abuse that has taken place. Anyone who plans to give money to Glexicon should consider the history and close relationship between Eryxma & Glexicon. (You did cancel that credit card, right?) (1) Houston Attorney General office: 713-223-5886 (2) Internet Fraud Complaint Center ============================================ This email was sent to all Eryxma clients by "Robert" and has proven to be completely false regarding the VPS. ============================================ The following information can be found in this thread. This information may or may not be factual. I did confirm that there is in fact at least one real person named "Robert Hinojosa" living around Houston aged 25-26. ============================================ "Robert Hinojosa" and "Josuee/Joe/Shang" have been doing online business together from at least early 2001. Also until a few months ago, the Glexicon site read: ============================================ Back in 2001, someone "checked" at a Montgomery court in New Caney.. Licenses and business registrations were found for TacidBlue, TacidHost, MicroComet, Odisee Industries with connections to either Guadalupe Milk (Josuee's alleged mother) or under the name of Josuee S. Ortiz. with 12 different addresses. ============================================ From Eryxma AUP From "binaris" in WHT on 08-13-2003 09:36 AM ============================================ Here is a list of WHOIS records. You can draw your own conclusions: (How many PO Box XXX Porter TX and 281-345-XXXX do you count) Domain Name: ERYXMA.COM (Used to match odisee.com/odisee.net/glexicon.com) //Last Updated on: 08-Sep-01 Domain Name: GLEXICON.COM Corporation, Odisee shenroy2k@hotmail.com Glexicon(dot)Com 1503 Buisness Way Houston, TX 77358 281-354-7724 //Last Updated on: 01-Nov-01 Domain Name: GLEXICON.COM Odisee Corporation Glexicon(dot)Com P.O. Box 347 Porter, Texas 77365 281-354-4663 //Current entry Domain Name: GLEXICON.COM Glexicon Communications P.O. Box 245 Porter, Texas 77365 281-354-4663 (866-852-9790) <--webpage listing //Last Updated on: 18-Jan-02 Domain Name: ODISEE.COM OdiSee Corporation P.O. Box 347 Porter, Texas 77365 United States 281-354-4663 //Last Updated on: 11-Feb-04 Domain Name: ODISEE.COM Glexicon Communications P.O. Box 245 Porter, Texas 77365 281-354-4663 //old TACIDBLUE.COM Joe Shang shang2k@email.msn.com TacidBlue(dot)Com 5476 Counterbridge Houston, TX 77365 281-354-4166 //old HOSTINGTICKET.COM Shang, Josuee shang2k@msn.com PO Box 251 Porter, TX 77365 281-354-2959

Posted by Chainhost-General, 04-26-2004, 12:42 PM
^ I mean justice in my post above ^ brought to business = brought to justice Thanks for the info torrents this will help me alot.

Posted by EasterGift, 04-26-2004, 02:09 PM
IF you are aware that he used your name as well as your company name, did you ever took any action (may be legal) against Joe (a criminal)? Why did not you stoped him using it? Do you have any answer?

Posted by EasterGift, 04-26-2004, 03:01 PM
If you have nothing to do with Eryxma & Odisee, why both domains are still redirecting to your business web site, glexicon.com. Why these domains whois still showing your name servers? EDIT: After reading these archived threads, it is cleared to us that you had supported a wrong person (Joe/Shang), knowingly. So, you are also involved into this crime... & must get punishments along with Joe....... http://www.webhostingtalk.com/showth...5&pagenumber=3 http://www.webhostingtalk.com/archiv...d/35728-1.html http://www.webhostingtalk.com/archiv...d/10134-1.html Last edited by EasterGift; 04-26-2004 at 03:05 PM.

Posted by N!cklas, 04-26-2004, 03:54 PM
Anyone got connections over at ThePlanet/ServerMatrix who has information about this mess? They ought to know at least something about how all Eryxma data came inte the Glexicon hands... Or? //N!cklas

Posted by capnqwest, 04-26-2004, 04:48 PM
Question. Why would Robert use the Glexicon name to start or restart a hosting business after it was runied by Josuee (or whomever)? Why not pick a new name? I really hope the former Eryxma clients look elsewhere to host their sites.

Posted by antonbrk, 04-26-2004, 10:44 PM
Although the worstcase spin advocates could eventually turn out to be right in all this, a milder view might concede Robert's awareness of JO's ethical tendencies but charitably grant that 1) Robert is not Joe, physically or ethically, 2) got his own rather good reputation badly burned by letting himself be conned (or at least $$$ seduced) by a deceit-prone but otherwise bonafide "whizkid", and 3) has reluctantly squeezed the whizkid out from executive control over that hefty client base that the whiz kid had in fact successfully built up over two years by low prices (too low, as is so often the case) combined with superior features, and, for quite awhile, high quality of service. Yes, it is totally correct to be absolutely skeptical of Robert's character for the time being, and doubt whether JO truly is more than arms length from Glexicon. And yes, obviously JO needs to be held accountable (and Robert too, should a case be proven that does indeed implicate him in Eryxma financial mischief). But, the associations being documented here---and I truly hope everything that can be unearthed GETS unearthed and gets reported here for harmed customers to profit by---can at the moment be interpreted in either a worstcase OR a somewhat milder manner: Robert does not dispute that Glexicon, Odisee, and Eryxma have common parentage. What he will not say (for understandable reasons--because its not true or because it would publically incriminate him) is that he was legally responsible for financial mischief commited by JO. Clear evidence of Robert's legal proprietorship over Eryxma during the commission of crimes might be established. I don't think the evidence yet establishes that. It may yet, however (I hope not).

Posted by torrents, 04-27-2004, 12:29 AM
I think they have been just slippery enough to never have incorporated these entities. Heck Glexicon STILL isn't. (Can someone in Houston check on these again?). "Robert" recently posted this to glexicon forum: (a) "Patrick" isn't really a Patrick. (b) I'd hardly believe you are "Robert" at this point. (c) Your whois info is all still fake (d) Your account of events as stated above are as follows: Glexicon entered into some contract with Eryxma for clients. Glexicon took access off account information. "Josuee" started billing customers AFTER information was on the servers you were then responsible for. (e) Somehow Glexicon has control of Eryxma's registration and DNS (f) Without a doubt, you DID known that Eryxma was in the process of defrauding customers. (g) ALL of OdiSee/Glexicon/Eryxma whois information is identical to Shang's TacidHost/TacidBlue fraud that took place in 2001 (h) YOU KNOW ALL OF JOSUEE'S TRICKS!

Posted by nova9, 04-27-2004, 04:03 AM
torrents: if you read this portion of my message in context, you'll understand that it's ironic ("Robin Host")!!! Helloooo!

Posted by nova9, 04-27-2004, 04:08 AM
Answer. Because they are kids. They think in stupid, mysterious ways. They think that everybody is stupid enough not to do a little research and find out the truth. They hope that many former Eryxma customers won't find out (or eat their bull**** and won't care) and stay with their "company". That's why Hinojosa wanted Eryxma's customers and sent out their spam when he "left". He didn't want to start from scratch.

Posted by amadeus, 04-27-2004, 04:24 AM
guess what i found today? i was billed 75.95$ for yearly hosting subscription renew from eryxma networks uptil may 26 2005. My yearly account with eryxma was about to expire on may 26th 2004? Whats goin on here? who is billing all this glexicon or eryxma, this is terrible!

Posted by capnqwest, 04-27-2004, 11:16 AM
Yeah, even though I've cancelled that card, they still try and bill me almost every day according to my bank as Eryxma Networks. If the Eryxma servers and ModernBill are gone, then it must be Glexicon. I got the intitial charges reversed and every charge since then has been declined but it shows how desperate these guys are.

Posted by Chainhost-General, 04-27-2004, 11:51 AM
It is verry intresting how all the eryxma supposed to be all offline. So lets see if the eryxma servers are ofline why is there still a "unknown cron job still doing billing" How does Glexicon have access to this server and is still alowing it to run the cron jobs. If you can see the logs then you have acess to the machine if they have access to the machine then you can stop the cron job. It is odd that glexicon does not know where we can find joe or whatever his name is. They were in communication during the "Migration to glexicon" So joe just happened to disappear just before the additional billing happened that is way too much.

Posted by torrents, 04-27-2004, 01:01 PM
That's too easy for "Robert".. He'll say that (conveniently) Josuee ran off with a copy of all the customer data. (Coincidentally, Robert has the exact same data). So bad-old-Joe must be running these crontabs from some new mystery server. Anyone else catch that this new company (oops, i mean "company") had started migrating customers before all the extra billing started. One might even say the billing jobs were run on the new companies servers. But we'll never know since they are such good chaps to have "saved everyone's data".

Posted by capnqwest, 04-27-2004, 01:46 PM
When I realized that Glexicon was migrating Eryxma data to their servers, I sent this e-mail to Robert and here was his response. Somebody is still attempting to charge my card though and my latest e-mails have gone unanswered.

Posted by Micy, 04-28-2004, 04:30 AM
You must be jocking. I'm waiting more then 1 week to get this backup, but nothing. Also, I posted ticket for "Eryxma VPS Backup Requests". Priority of ticket was "urgent", after more then 5 hours I didn't get any reply. Nice service. Also, here are colections of some intersting post: Robert HinojosaPresident & CEOGlexicon Communications, 19 April 2004, 02:35 AM : As of now, we are wrapping up pending transactions. Any accounts which have not been transferred will now be manually backed up and transferred to the correct server, where it will be manually restored.VPS clients will be backed up and transferred to new servers in anticipation of restoration by SWsoft staff. Robert HinojosaPresident & CEOGlexicon Communications, 19 April 2004, 10:57 PM : All VPS data is being transferred.To reset your password, go to When prompted for username, press ESC and enter username for reset. An email will be sent to the contact on file.Please note, however, that access may still be limited as we run the CPanel accounting scripts to fix account associations. Robert HinojosaPresident & CEOGlexicon Communications, 19 April 2004, 10:32 PM : All accounts will start with a zero balance. Basically, you can consider any payments you made to Eryxma as honored by Glexicon, and you will receive the remaining period on your previous hosting agreement at no additional charge (as would be expected). There was no money exchange between Glexicon or Eryxma of any sort. Robert HinojosaPresident & CEOGlexicon Communications, 19 April 2004, 09:37 PM : Yes, we have access to the ModernBill database, but will be discussing internally how much of that information we will actually import. This will be discussed at a later time. (This week, though.) etc. My only question is: If "All VPS data is being transferred" why cann I get backup?

Posted by usako, 04-29-2004, 12:46 AM
I didn't have time to read through all the topics here to see if this wasn't already pointed out.. but take a look at this topic: http://www.webhostingtalk.com/showth...ighlight=shang And take note of the last post. I thought Shang owned Eryxma? Unless this person representing Eryxma was Shang and giving out false information that Robert owned it.

Posted by Micy, 04-29-2004, 02:17 AM
Robert HinojosaPresident & CEOGlexicon Communications, 28 April 2004, 10:23 PM : You seem to think this transfer of client data is still underway... it's not. Eryxma's servers are unplugged, the data we have (which is most) is all we'll get off there. Josuee screwed us over as far as the deal to get everyone off. That deal was abruptly ended. Had it gone as planned it would have been smooth, but it didn't. Also, we never stated that we have no obligations... other members of this forum did. Robert HinojosaPresident & CEOGlexicon Communications, 19 April 2004, 10:57 PM : All VPS data is being transferred. No comment.

Posted by torrents, 04-30-2004, 01:42 PM
Anyone who was double (or more) billed and lives in US (preferably Texas) should be able to file a complaint with law enforcement. I luckily cancelled my credit card months ago (unrelated) so I can't.. Or I would. Send me a PM and we can get started.

Posted by EasterGift, 04-30-2004, 01:56 PM
Plesk server 2 is still down and they did not provided any information. Glexicon ticket system is also fake as when you any issue it goes to :blackhole: and no notification will be in your mailbox............ I think Joe & Robert has played another game after tacidhost.com. This time its Eryxma and the next will be Glexicon...........

Posted by javierol, 04-30-2004, 02:05 PM
I submited two tickets and did not get a reply and not even a notification with the ticket key. My site has been working fine for many days but I cannot upload or send/get email because the password does not work. Javier greatvideos.org diapason@soltel.com.uy

Posted by sunshines, 04-30-2004, 02:20 PM
That is true, i can confirm toi, tickets are not answered even aftrer days.

Posted by antonbrk, 05-01-2004, 12:08 AM
i have 2 sites there (one on cs3, 1 on cs5) and passwords now work fine on both. no idea about the plesk accounts. i had to click "Reset Password" (that should come up after a few failed attempts) for the cs5 account, but i got the new password instantly in my mailbox, and it worked. All my htaccess passwords work ok as does cpanel access, and email, on both accounts. i agree it sure took a long time, but all is up and working OK in my case. in fact page loads seem faster than they were at eryxma. did you try resetting your password? if so, did you try filing a ticket yet?

Posted by javierol, 05-01-2004, 12:16 AM
tickets are being replied and if you do not get your ticket key by email you can use the remember ticket feature My site (former cp3) is now working and password now works fine So it seems they are slowly taking care of issues Javier diapason@soltel.com.uy

Posted by Psy, 05-02-2004, 04:14 AM
Just got this in my mailbox: I'll be leaving as things seem a little too fishy for me. I don't need to be losing money twice, but there seems to be a lot of people sticking with them.....but I guess they say there's a fool born every second..... Last edited by Psy; 05-02-2004 at 04:17 AM.

Posted by sunshines, 05-02-2004, 02:59 PM
Please comment about this, if you think is true. I copied this from glexicon forum:

Posted by ActuaryTm, 05-02-2004, 04:34 PM
Not surprisingly, it appears that particular post was removed from the forum, no doubt by a member of the "Eryxicon" (which I have to say is likely the most logical way to refer to the entire Glexicon/Eryxma situation) staff. Thank you for relaying this information to a forum which is not disinclined toward seeking the truth, or refuting that which is not.

Posted by MCHost-Marc, 05-02-2004, 04:50 PM
If it helps anything, i know for a fact that the owner of Eryxma and Glexicon is the same person. They initially started out with us on a reseller plan almost two years ago with the name Glexicon, then changed their name to Eryxma. They then left us to become competitors and thats pretty much all the information i can give you. I didn't read through the entire threads here on this issue, so my apologies if someone has already posted this information, i just thought i would let you all know. Good luck.

Posted by binaris, 05-02-2004, 04:58 PM
It was deleted for two reasons: 1. It is a blantant untruth. 2. The Glexicon forums are for Glexicon clients, not for posting theories that we are in any way related to Eryxma. The use of our forums is discussed here (in the announcement posted above): http://forums.glexicon.com/showthread.php?t=521

Posted by binaris, 05-02-2004, 05:04 PM
As stated in the other thread you posted this in, you're wrong, Marc. http://www.webhostingtalk.com/showth...84#post2069984 Also note we are an actual business, confirmed by our incorporation filing: http://forums.glexicon.com/showthread.php?t=537 I do not live with Josuee, Josuee does not make that much money (if he did, why would he steal?), we have hardly been close friends in the past year, and I am in no way involved with any of his past ventures. Eryxma was a legitimate host until recently. It was a fairly successful small business, which I accredit mostly to Patrick LaCrosse... toward the end, he was the person behind Eryxma, which is why it didn't go belly up sooner. This is why Patrick is now with Glexicon, and why he, the rest of the staff, and myself, will succeed with Glexicon, regardless of the unfounded lies posted in these threads.

Posted by MCHost-Marc, 05-02-2004, 05:12 PM
I never stated you were the same person, i simply stated that Eryxma and Glexicon are owned by the same person. That is according to the orders we have received and from what i can see in our support ticket database from two years ago. If that has changed since then, i cannot tell, i'm simply stating what i know from back then. Anyways, its not my problem but good luck to you all sorting it out.

Posted by binaris, 05-02-2004, 05:13 PM
BTW... incorrect. Not everyone was recieving the mails because the .126 address had not been given a PTR record. As javierol confirmed, everyone is now recieving confirmation emails. Tickets are being answered as quickly as possible, with the majority now resolved.

Posted by usako, 05-02-2004, 05:16 PM
Can anyone here check if this is a ligitimate document?

Posted by binaris, 05-02-2004, 05:17 PM
It was never true. "Eryxma and Glexicon are owned by the same person" is not correct, regardless of who utilized the reseller account. Eryxma is/was owned by two people: Montgomery County, TX: Eryxma Networks dba Guadalupe Wong Milk (Josuee's mother) Harris County, TX: Eryxma Hosting dba Ronald Kendrick (Josuee's roommate) Glexicon has been mine since it was a valid business... Montgomery County, TX: Glexicon Communications dba Robert Hinojosa State of Texas: Glexicon Communications, Inc.

Posted by binaris, 05-02-2004, 05:19 PM
Call the number on the bottom of that document or visit http://www.sos.state.tx.us.

Posted by usako, 05-02-2004, 05:20 PM
But it WAS once owned by Josuee if you look back far enough here on WHT doing a search on Glexicon. I still don't get why you'd keep the name. Pretty dumb of you.

Posted by binaris, 05-02-2004, 05:22 PM
Incorrect again. It was NEVER a real business. It was a name he touted around for a very short period of time. Maybe it was dumb, but it's our company name and won't be changing anytime soon.

Posted by usako, 05-02-2004, 05:25 PM
I'm not incorrect. I didn't say it was a business. Don't put words in my mouth. I said the domain name was owned AND USED by him at one point. Anyone doing research on your company in the future will see that. No matter if you plan to keep the name or not, it still is a dumb thing for you to continue using it after it was used by someone who screwed over so many people.

Posted by TomTech, 05-02-2004, 05:30 PM
My only real concern, at this point, is that during the setup of accounts that will take place this week, that there will be zero-tolerance in the disruption of service...and I mean NONE. My other concern is that if DNS changes have to be made during this account setup, that OnLineNIC, who seems to have had a relationship with some of the parties here, deal with their part in a timely manner. My main client was down all weekend because of OnLineNIC. I placed a transfer order with them may days ago, through my other Registrar, but there has been absolutley no feedback...despite several e-mails. From what I've seen in other threads, Someone with Glexicon seems to have some say about ONLineNIC. If that's true...please deal with this situation. I'm looking at staying with Glexicon...but not with OnLineNIC. TomTech

Posted by binaris, 05-02-2004, 05:37 PM
Patrick is handling the OnlineNIC domains. Transfer requests will be honored now that he has control over the account. If you've requested a transfer within the last 2-3 days, and have not gotten a response, email him at placrosse@glexicon.com.

Posted by binaris, 05-02-2004, 05:38 PM
You didn't say domain name, but regardless, I don't even remember there being an actual site there. Like I said, it was something I stopped before anything actually took place. He did manage to take someone's logo though, I do remember that. That was about the only content on the domain...

Posted by usako, 05-02-2004, 05:45 PM
GOOD FOR YOU! You're absolutely right that I didn't say domain name, but that was what I was refferring to and it STILL makes no difference. I didn't say anywhere in my post anything about a business, and you were putting words in my mouth. I didn't appreciate that. Regardless of the use of Glexicon's name, it still was used by him and as I mentioned before anyone doing research on your company in the future will see that. Good move Robert.

Posted by usako, 05-02-2004, 05:52 PM
Forgot to mention. Do a search on Glexicon and you'll see about 3-4 (maybe more?) topics about him using that name and planning for it being a hosting company in 2001. 1. an aim chat (not posted by him) http://www.webhostingtalk.com/showth...threadid=22117 2. about getting a server(s) http://www.webhostingtalk.com/showth...threadid=20984 3. the logo http://www.webhostingtalk.com/showth...threadid=21713 4. making a website http://www.webhostingtalk.com/showth...threadid=21687 Not trying to attack you about this, but just a refference to what you said about there being only one topic about him using your name. As you can see there's more than one (and possibly more than these). Take a look yourself. Last edited by usako; 05-02-2004 at 05:58 PM.

Posted by TomTech, 05-02-2004, 05:57 PM
USAKO: Don't you have anything better to do then sit here flaming people? Robert: Thanks for the Registrar info...I sent a message to Patrick.

Posted by usako, 05-02-2004, 05:58 PM
I'm sorry, I'm not flaming him! I was angry at first (when he put words in my mouth).. but now I'm correcting what he just told me. Last edited by usako; 05-02-2004 at 06:04 PM.

Posted by ActuaryTm, 05-02-2004, 06:33 PM
If nothing less, I must admit you're finely gifted in the art of diaster cleanup. While you may or may not be a party to any of the aforementioned fraud claims, you've certainly managed to erase most of the facts and/or opinions from the Glexma/Eryxicon forum. Of course, those forums do indeed belong to you, and you are more than welcome to do with them what you wish; however, would again be remiss if I failed to mention that a totally innocent party would welcome the opportunity to discuss such events. And you'll forgive me, Roberuee, if I do not take you at your stated word. The amount of misinformation given - predominantly by you yourself - would make anyone leery. Before you protest, I'd be remiss if I did not note that you never mentioned Josuee/Joe/Whomever was handling any part of the migration until after several clients were fraudulently billed AGAIN during the supposed transfer of data. A quotation to refresh memories, if you will :This is the official Glexicon statement, and not in this nor any subsequent messages (until after such a time that the transfer was deemed "a failure") was any mention made of Joe's/Josuee's/etc involvement. You were well aware of the fraud issues then as well as now; yet not until the transfer "failed" was it made known that the aforementioned Josuee still was involved with not only our data - our sensative data, mind you (as in client information including but not limited to any financial information including credit card account numbers), as another fraudulent set of charges were made to a number of clients (see link below, as well as the included quotation in such case as the original link is somehow "archived") - but also was involved with your company, quite extensively (by your own admission below), which supposedly had never occured whatsoever with Glexicon.You may call it what you will, of course - but a lie of omission is still nonetheless a lie. Last edited by ActuaryTm; 05-02-2004 at 06:41 PM.

Posted by binaris, 05-02-2004, 09:20 PM
It was only obvious that such a move would require Josuee's cooperation. I never denied that, and anyone with enough sense would realize that we weren't going to steal his customers. Involved quite extensively though? More speculation and exaggeration... I never stated anything like that. He packaged the accounts and scp'd them to the servers. Is that being extensively involved with Glexicon? Hardly. And I was aware of the fraud? I was not aware; not until he did it where I could see, and this whole deal was over when I had found out. Once again this has gone too far. People who are pissed off because Josuee Ortiz ripped them off come and put the blame on me in his absence, simply because it seems as if I was the closest to him. I have nothing to do with his past actions, and he has nothing to do with my company. Eryxma was fine until recently, and I left last October and had talked to Josuee a maximum of a few hours since that time. Yet I'm a part of his "scams" and so on? All these accusations that *I* have lied are just getting annoying. I can't stop you from saying what you feel at any given moment, but just to forewarn you, you're completely and absolutely incorrect.

Posted by kbillingsley, 05-02-2004, 09:40 PM
I doubt there will be any legal ramifications from all of this. They're all using aliases so it won't even hurt them the next time they do it. They'll just move the next fake name to CEO of the new company. Keep a whois eye out for any additional domains they have registered to see the name of the new company after Glexicon has gone down in flames. Then the CEO of the new company, Patrick LaCross, will be shocked that Robert was working with Josuee the whole time and they were both corrupt. I feel no pity for the idiots that chose to stay with Glexicon knowing what they already know. But I wish there were a way to alert the public to this scam. They won't be suing anyone for defamation, they don't want an investigation into their activities. Maybe it's time to alert all the tech news sites to this fiasco. Just give an exact account of what happened and let them decide what they want to print. I'm moving all my clients InternetPlanners. Real good host, it's who we use at MacUpgrades. Not as cheap as Eryxma and now I know why. Kevin Billingsley Systems Engineer MacUpgrades

Posted by ActuaryTm, 05-02-2004, 09:43 PM
"Acquired" (as mentioned in the above quotation issued by Glexicon) connotates a finished action, and thus, we (and I am sure I speak for many) were lead to believe there would be no further inaction with Josuee/Joe/Etc, especially considering fraudulent double/triple/etc billings were being noted from the first inception of the Glexicon forums, and prior to the dissolution of the transfer agreement.You may want to reread your own words : "During this migration, we have worked closely with Josuee Ortiz ("Joe Shiekron") of Eryxma Hosting. Much of the migration was actually performed by Josuee Ortiz". Phrases such as "worked closely" and "much of the migration" implies a great deal of involvement in regards to the migration. Again, this was never mentioned prior to the failure of the migration efforts.Incorrect. We (former Eryxma clients) are searching for a bit of the truth. A number of individuals no doubt lost a great deal of money (and not simply related to the fraudulent billing, of course - but time, clients of their own, etc), and are looking for answers. We are pointing out facts and stating opinions. We are also observing how Glexicon reacts and deals with these issues as well as others. Am sorry if this offends you, but we are certainly afforded this type of action. I personally place no blame on you for the fraud, but I do assign blame for the misinformation. It was never clear that Josuee/Joe/Etc was involved in any way, regardless of what you may believe. According to every message, the Glexicon staff was being handling the migration.Again, reread. The only blame assigned is that regarding the distribution of misinformation. Part of it may indeed be unintentional, but not all. Clear motives are easily recognized. Again, am quite sorry you are annoyed; however, the facts related to this particular manner - as well as the entire PS2/VPS situation - are clear : a great deal of misinformation has been given. Am also quite sorry you feel this facts are incorrect. They are indeed not. Omitting information (however obvious it may be deemed) is still an omission, and in this case, a lie of omission. Last edited by ActuaryTm; 05-02-2004 at 09:53 PM.

Posted by kbillingsley, 05-02-2004, 09:48 PM
I can name about ten instances where you lied. He!!, just search the forum to find him defending Joe Shiekron after the tacidblue incident and fully knowing that Joe was Shang. See him in that very post stating that Eryxma was and Odisee subsidiary. Then see him later on this forum and his own forums denying that Odisee was even a company at that time. When he realized this slip up he tried to imply that he didn't make that post, that it was Josuee impersonating him. He later withdrew that as well. This guy, just like that last one, is a professional con-artist. But they're both pretty bad at it.

Posted by usako, 05-02-2004, 09:54 PM
I think he was talking about Glexicon (instead of Odisee) not being a company at the time though.. I agree though that a lot of what's been said does not make sense and you can do a search to find him contradicting almost everything that he's said.

Posted by binaris, 05-02-2004, 09:56 PM
You seriously misunderstood everything I've said. Once again, taking time off from WHT to tend to some real issues.

Posted by ActuaryTm, 05-02-2004, 09:58 PM
For the most part, believe limiting the spectrum of this analysis to the present (rather than the past) would prove more useful, although there are certain trends that are quite unnerving. Most of the issues at hand are, for the most part, no way affected by those past actions. Certainly those facts and opinions can go to character, but the present issues and the manner in which they were dealt are far more relevant.

Posted by kbillingsley, 05-02-2004, 10:40 PM
Quoted from an email Robert sent me. "While I regret not coming forward and stating the fact that Josuee Ortiz was Joe Shiekron at one of the many times I though about it, he had done nothing wrong," He was obviously conveniently forgetting about tacidblue. Quoted from Glexicon forums. "Originally Posted by entoMedia His friend "Robert" allowed "Joe" to use the name Glexicon in 2001 to start another hosting company. "Robert" then suspended "Joe"'s access to the OdiSee (company run by "Robert") server and use of the name Glexicon (which "Robert" claims he came up with, along with the name "Eryxma")." Below is Robert's reply. "That was not an OdiSee server. As noted elsewhere, OdiSee was not an active company at that time. He utilized my personal reseller account to do so." Above is Robert, in his own forums, saying that OdiSee was NOT an active company at that time Eryxma/Shang was claiming they were a subsidiary of OdiSee. Not Glexicon, OdiSee. Below is Robert, from these forums, absolutely contradicting that. "yes, Eryxma is an actual subsidiary of OdiSee (suprise suprise!) and the first time i registered eryxma.net was in 97/98 (wow, how interesting!). i felt it would be advantageous to outsource it for something, and Joe came along and i let him use the domain... what he's done with it is beyond me, i only visit from time to time and collect rent." More from Glexicon forums. "And no, I'm not trying to manipulate people into seeing us as some "hero". Just my opinion (as stated below)." Yeah! Your a real hero. "I suppose only time will tell...we're a company that plans to do much more than web hosting, and to succeed at everything we do. _____________ Robert Hinojosa President & CEO Glexicon Communications" This I believe. You are much more than a hosting company. You're scam artists and you have succeeded at it and probably will continue to do so. You should see the list of people that are now banned from their forums. I tried to post it all here but it would have taken all night. Kevin Billingsley Systems Engineer MacUpgrades

Posted by usako, 05-02-2004, 10:45 PM
Holy crap...

Posted by kbillingsley, 05-02-2004, 10:52 PM
Now what Robert? What spin will you put on this? You can't ban me from these forums. I have you blocked from the server level so no more threatening emails either (at least they won't be getting to me). So what now?

Posted by TomTech, 05-02-2004, 11:02 PM
If he's smart: Ignoring you. He needs to concentrate on the 18K clients he now owns. TomTEch

Posted by kbillingsley, 05-02-2004, 11:19 PM
Gee TomTech, how would you know how many clients Glexicon has? Unless you are one of them. Everyone, understand that each employee at Eryxicon has multiple accounts both here and on their own forums. They're posting pretending to be satisfied customers to try to calm their now suspicious victims. Be leary of any post that defends them. How could anyone defend these people with all the evidence in front of them. Why would anyone want to give people like this their money? BTW, I haven't seen anything that would indicate to me that they have 18k customers. More like 1k....maybe.

Posted by ActuaryTm, 05-02-2004, 11:25 PM
I think 18,000 is a bit of an overestimation. A more accurate assessment would be closer to 2,000-3,000, according to the disclosure made by Robert. 18,000 (actually, closer to 18,800 by Robert's estimation) refers to the number of domains hosted, and not actual clients as most host more than one domain.

Posted by Micy, 05-03-2004, 01:47 AM
Well, I belive that last "dead line" made by Glexicon for deliver VPS backup is ower and it's clear: Glexicon promesed a lot and didn't keep a word to defrauded clients. Also, I suppose all defrauded customers were kicked out of Glexicon forums. I posted first ticket on so called "support" center at 27 Apr 2004 11:21 PM, I didn't get any answer. Robert HinojosaPresident & CEOGlexicon Communications, 19 April 2004, 10:57 PM : All VPS data is being transferred. So my question is: was there any statement and promess made by Robert Hinojosa that was truthful at all? Also I agree with all who claimed that Eryxma and Glexicon are the same company. Here is answer from Panet Matrix (April 30): I am sorry but we can not supply info to you about a customer. I am sorry you are going through this trouble but we can not assist you with recovery or [v]contact of Eryxma.[/b] They said: Eryxma, not Glexicon... Robert Hinojosa, May 2: We will continue providing backups for only a limited period of time. But in fact, Glexicon didn't provide any VPS backup yet!

Posted by Micy, 05-03-2004, 02:23 AM
I'm reading all this over and over again... I'm just curious - will Glexicon keep their last promess about backup or not?

Posted by nova9, 05-03-2004, 02:38 AM
OK guys, let's say that we're all telling blatant lies and are simply flaming a good honest businessman. So, Hinojosa, if you are not afraid of anything and done nothing illegal, since you know Ortiz in person, would you please report him to the authorities? Not anonymously. If you do it, I'll eat my hat.

Posted by Micy, 05-03-2004, 03:01 AM
Yes, one day he claims that "VPS data is being transferred", another day that it will take 24 - 48 hours to access them etc... Maybe - it is possible - that defrauded customers are wrong and that there is any connection between Eryxma and Glexicon. But in this case I'm wondering why Glexicon "eat" promess after promess, don't reply to "support tickets", close their forums and after all - do not allowed to access VPS backups. I do not know how is possbile that Hinojosa claims one day that "VPS data is being transferred", anotjher day that only 95 % of backup was made... I'm willing to give oportunity to Glexicon to prove that maybe all this mess is really a consequence of Ortiz's fraud... But fackt is that Glexicon give to defrauded customers several promises, untill now all those promess were empty. But - maybe I'm wrong, mybe we will see this Glexicon "wonder" after all?

Posted by Micy, 05-03-2004, 03:52 AM
I just saw this hinojosa post... So, let us see again what was all erased from Glexicon forums: So if Glexicon is not "related" to Eryxma I do not see any reason why cann we get our backups?? After all, at first Robert Hinojosa promesd to us that we cann "consider any payments you made to Eryxma as honored by Glexicon, and you will receive the remaining period on your previous hosting agreement at no additional charge".... Or maybe also the last "ltter to Eryxma customers" from Hinojaosa is just one additional empty promes? We will see...

Posted by torrents, 05-03-2004, 04:41 AM
Opppps... Ronnie, you screwed up. (a) why are there dba in different counties with different names. (b) you are admitting your real name in this forum?? (Harris Co. dba (the first filed) is Glexicon - Kendrick, Ronald) (c) you are admitting you filed the dba for the state under "Robert Hinojosa" Ok, maybe you legally changed your name to this Robert H. I doubt it. I hope you did, cause I'm quoting: "A person commits an offense under the Texas Business Corporation Act, the Texas Limited Liability Company Act or the Texas Non-Profit Corporation Act if the person signs a document the person knows is false in any material respect with the intent that the document be delivered to the secretary of state for filing. The offense is a Class A misdemeanor." http://www.cclerk.hctx.net/coolice/d...ervice=an_name Office of Beverly B. Kaufman, County Clerk, Harris County, Texas Assumed Names Inquiry System H0068868 ERYXMA HOSTING 233922020 07-31-2003 10 2611 BENS BRANCH DR #2810 KINGWOOD TX 77339 KENDRICK RONALD WAYNE 2611 BENS BRANCH DR #2810 KINGWOOD TX 77339 H0070577 GLEXICON 234841682 12-29-2003 10 2611 BENS BRANCH DR #2810 KINGWOOD TX 77339 KENDRICK RONALD WAYNE 2611 BENS BRANCH DR #2810 KINGWOOD TX 77339 H0070576 SHIEKRON NETWORKS 234841681 12-29-2003 10 2611 BENS BRANCH DR #2810 KINGWOOD TX 77339 KENDRICK RONALD WAYNE 2611 BENS BRANCH DR #2810 KINGWOOD TX 77339

Posted by torrents, 05-03-2004, 04:54 AM
Before anyone gets to excited about his articles of incorporation, I should point out that it contains: "Robert E. Hinojosa / P.O. Box 245 / Porter / TX" (a) it is using a false name and filed with Secretary of State TX (b) uses a PO Box.. again, read the instructions, BEFORE you file Ronnie. "A post office box is not sufficient as a registered office address unless the registered office is located in a town with a population of less than 5,000." So, while YES this does exist.. It won't for long, seeing as it is invalid. If he has to re-file I'll be getting $300 out of him in a round-about way. (insert Game Over sound effects)

Posted by Micy, 05-03-2004, 04:56 AM
Well, I lost "file rouge" here... Joe ortiz used false name. But also Robert Hinojosa is using false name? (wich name is now false name? KENDRICK RONALD WAYNE or Robert Hinojosa?) Just give us short manual to understand all that mess with names... Under R W Kendric I found this: DIRECT INDEX OF ASSUMED NAME RECORDS FILE NUM.W. BUSINESS NAME & ADDRESS, OWNER NAME & ADDRESS (A-D) .FILM CODE.DATE FILED.T.TR. ========.= H0068868 KENDRICK RONALD WAYNE 233922020 07-31-2003 10 2611 BENS BRANCH DR #2810 KINGWOOD TX 77339 ERYXMA HOSTING 2611 BENS BRANCH DR #2810 KINGWOOD TX 77339 H0070575 KENDRICK RONALD WAYNE 234841680 12-29-2003 10 2611 BENS BRANCH DR #2810 KINGWOOD TX 77339 #STUDIO64 2611 BENS BRANCH DR #2810 KINGWOOD TX 77339 H0070576 KENDRICK RONALD WAYNE 234841681 12-29-2003 10 2611 BENS BRANCH DR #2810 KINGWOOD TX 77339 SHIEKRON NETWORKS 2611 BENS BRANCH DR #2810 KINGWOOD TX 77339 H0070577 KENDRICK RONALD WAYNE 234841682 12-29-2003 10 2611 BENS BRANCH DR #2810 KINGWOOD TX 77339 GLEXICON 2611 BENS BRANCH DR #2810 KINGWOOD TX 77339 under name "Hinojosa Robert" I didn't find Glexicon. Last edited by Micy; 05-03-2004 at 05:10 AM.

Posted by torrents, 05-03-2004, 05:07 AM
I think I jizzed myself knowing you are getting annoyed.. it makes me want to re-double the effort of exposing you. Just to forewarn everyone, you're completely and absolutely a liar and scammer.

Posted by torrents, 05-03-2004, 05:14 AM
Go to the webpage and look them up yourself if you can't read it. Geez, Micy why are you double posting all the same info?? You are cluttering up my nice expose. Anyways, the reason Robert doesn't appear is he claims to have filed under Montgomery Co. which conveniently only does records in person, not by phone. I present here a list of known Eryxma accomplices. All of their names are previously mentioned in this and the Shang thread. Joe, Ronnie, and Wes all went to high school together. I apologize to Wes for including his info, because he is the only decent human being in the bunch, but "Patrick LaCrosse" did post a lot on Glexicon recently. We also have to establish the HS relationship. I'm sorry Wes has chosen to continue working with these guys and hope the best that he can foresee the bad things Joe & Ronnie are destined for. Without further ado, a gift from the state of Texas. ORTIZ, JOSUEE SHANG 27-Aug-1985 KENDRICK, RONALD WAYNE 04-Apr-1985 TREVINO, WESTLEY JOE 16-Nov-1984 Last edited by torrents; 05-03-2004 at 05:19 AM.

Posted by placrosse, 05-03-2004, 06:16 AM
Let me get this straight, Robert and Ronald are the same person? Quite a baseless and moronic assumption you've made there. Nice theory, but don't consider your opinion to be the truth of the matter.

Posted by Micy, 05-03-2004, 07:05 AM
Well, I suppose Robert Hinojosa must clear up this information, not you, Patric. After all, you wait for the penny to drop - you billed me in advance on March 31 and 13 days latter you find out that something is wrong with Eryxma. I belive that your "finding" was surprise for you, but belive me that I was even more surprised because you billed me for next 2 months in advance without warning that Eryxma is in trouble. Or did you fund this "penny" really 13 days latter? You know the best, Patric. I belive that's your name on bottom of the bill, Patric. So, cann I trust you at all? Will you help me to get backup of my site? I'm asking you out of curiosity... But all about Hinojosa I belive you must live hem to answer... After all, you are not him, aren't you?

Posted by placrosse, 05-03-2004, 07:11 AM
I was the support contact listed in HSP which is why you see my name there. I will inquire with Phil on what the status is of your VPS request.

Posted by Micy, 05-03-2004, 07:23 AM
I do not care why - your name is on the bottom of the bill. Status of my VPS request is following: without any reply since April 27 2004. So - when will I get backup? If Hinojosa didnt lied on 19 April 2004, 10:57 PM when he wrote: "All VPS data is being transferred." I belive that I cann get my backup.

Posted by Micy, 05-03-2004, 08:36 AM
well, i just got a mail message from another defrauded eryxma's customer. he calims that i will not get any backup, maybe i will get reply from Glexicon such as: sorry but we were not able to provide you backup, your data were in 5 % of lost data (lost during migration) we will se what will hapened . my first ticket to "support" Glexicon center is NGS-12580 - i didn't get any answer from april 27, so maybe this person is right: i will not get any backup at all....

Posted by torrents, 05-03-2004, 10:31 AM
I take back anything nice I ever said about you, Wes. Yeah, I'm really going to listen to you about people's identities. You are still using a fake name. I also noticed you didn't say "Robert is not Ronnie" you said that awkward statement about my assumption and opinion. Kinda telling don't you think?

Posted by torrents, 05-03-2004, 11:45 AM
This thread has some interesting comments from "Robert". This may be the first thing he's said that I believe.

Posted by binaris, 05-03-2004, 02:23 PM
I said Glexicon's real DBA was in Montgomery County. The Harris County DBA I knew nothing about. I'll tell you the truth right here, and whether or not believe me is up to you (I really don't care)... Josuee's been pissed since October that I left. Patrick told me on a few occasions that he cared more about what Glexicon was doing than his own customers since that time. He's always done everything he could to destroy whatever competition he could. Ask Kevin from Manlius.com and ask anyone that was at EV1 back then (Brian C). Now when I talked to him when he came to us for "help", I had a lot of questions for him... he eluded to the fact that he had filed a DBA for Glexicon. I obviously got pissed off and he told me he didn't really, but he had thought about it. So I really paid it no mind, since it makes no difference as (1) I registered an assumed name in Montgomery County prior to Josuee having Ronnie register one in Harris County, and (2) the real Glexicon Communications is now Glexicon Communications, Inc. as shown on the certificate of incorporation. I guess I should have taken the little **** seriously... for once he actually did what he said he did. Now why is there a PO Box on the incorporation filing? Because that's the mailing address. Should I put my home address? Yeah, right. Our agent is at 1614 Sidney Baker St., Kerrville, TX 78028. - placrosse is Patrick LaCrosse, not Wes. - Patrick[EX] was Josuee. Once he was pointed out, he claimed he was Wes. That was a lie. Josuee's screenname is Shiekron, and he also uses Eryxma Support from time to time still. - Wes did not get re-involved with Eryxma until this year. He does not frequent WHT. His AIM screenname is AeolisCams. - I am Robert Hinojosa, not Josuee, not Ronnie. My AIM screenname is fusionne. - Ronnie isn't in the web hosting industry, so he probably doesn't even know what WHT is. His AIM screenname is Asskicker064. That address on Bens Branch is no longer valid. I won't give a specific address, but I will give complex/subdivision names... that address was in the Town Center Apartments. After being evicted from there, Josuee and Ronnie moved to Balawoods Apartments. After another eviction, they now live in the Kings Manor subdivision in a home I assume is leased. As Wes noted in his LiveJournal (http://www.livejournal.com/users/aeoliscams/), he lived there for a while and is now moving out because Josuee stole *his* CC too, among other things. Ronnie's also leaving. Speculate all you want, guys. If you want the truth, you should ask me and I'll give it to you. Seriously... this is childish. EDIT: Another interesting LiveJournal... http://www.livejournal.com/users/tolkiengoddess/. She doesn't yet know the real Joe, but what she wrote there is quite amusing. It also proves that the birth certificate Josuee has in Maverick County TX is incorrect, and that he really is 17. Last edited by binaris; 05-03-2004 at 02:27 PM.

Posted by binaris, 05-03-2004, 02:41 PM
You are seriously out of your mind. My name is Robert Hinojosa. The SoS returned the filing because it was valid and everything checked out... you DO have to provide your SSN, so it's not something you can lie about. I also said that Glexicon Communications was established in MONTGOMERY county, not HARRIS county. The Harris county DBA was done by Ronnie at the request of Josuee just because he's spiteful (read my above post). Go after Josuee Ortiz, not me.

Posted by binaris, 05-03-2004, 02:51 PM
Just a bit more info... Josuee was apparently born in Mexico. His mother (Guadalupe Wong Milk) is registered to practice medicine in Mexico, so that would make sense. Some time after he was born, a birth certificate was requested (??) in Eagle Pass, TX (where he resided and went to school for much of his early childhood). This certificate apparently notes an incorrect birth year. Whether he was actually born in Eagle Pass and it was a simple error, or if he really was born in Mexico and it was again, an error, I don't know. If you've seen Josuee, you'd think he was 15-16ish, so I've doubted the fact that he was 18 and I'm pretty sure he's not. Josuee uses approximately 10 aliases to obtain credit, to sign contracts, and to hide his identity. These include the following, which are most frequently used: - Joe Shiekron: A strange nickname given by a classmate. - Robert Cruz: A classmate from New Caney HS. - Robert Cortez: A classmate from New Caney HS. - Serafin: A classmate from an elementary/junior high in Eagle Pass. Josuee has also used my name, Wes Trevino, Patrick LaCrosee, and Matt Ezell as an alias. These are all real names of real people that he's worked with. Nobody knew (including myself) that he used these names until last year (another reason I left Eryxma for good).

Posted by loz, 05-03-2004, 03:00 PM
And yet knowing all this, you then worked with Joe only last week to move all his clients from Eryxma to Glexicon? Let's get this staight. Are you saying that you knew all this history about Joe. You left eryxma because of his supposed terrible, scamming behaviour. You knew he was misusing your name. And yet last week, you were happily working with him to take on his clients? So when you dealt with him last week having known all this had been going on you didn't report him instantly to the police, or beat the daylights out of him? But instead you sit down with him to "Officially acquire the assets of Eryxma"?

Posted by binaris, 05-03-2004, 03:09 PM
Is that a promise? I don't know what I'd report or who I'd report to (since I haven't yet been victimized), but you point me in the right direction, and you can consider it done.

Posted by binaris, 05-03-2004, 03:16 PM
He was not "scamming" anyone while I was there, at least not that I knew of. The worse thing I knew about was him stealing DirecTV service through the use of a smart card burner. I left before he did anything serious... aliases aren't illegal though, until you use them like he did. I didn't know about the aliases being used to obtain credit, etc. until I was told by another member of these forums. Happily working with him? No... it was depressing dealing with him. I almost gained a little bit of trust in him because he disclosed everything. Of course, it wasn't really everything, and he was just doing a really good job of manipulating me. He wanted more than to transfer clients, he wanted $5000/month, he wanted control in the company... I told him no, and he didn't like it. I saw the "Eryxma just billed me" thread in our forums and checked it out (as described in my announcement on our forums) and sure enough, it was Josuee's doing. I should have beat the crap out of him, but then he'd run to the police himself. And I could go to the police and attempt a report, but I was only a witness... a witness would usually wait for a trial and testify there.

Posted by loz, 05-03-2004, 03:29 PM
Sorry, but Patrick LaCrosse - you know that guy who is (allegedly) working with you posted earlier further up this thread that Joe had scammed hundreds of dollars off his credit card BEFORE the so called "official acquisition of eryxma" What, you guys were dealing with Joe, but somehow that slipped your mind?

Posted by torrents, 05-03-2004, 04:00 PM
Robert, your recents posts do appear to be truthful. I can't figure out why you waited until now to post some of this information. Most of the confusion was caused by the aliases and PO Boxes used by those associated with Eryxma. I wish someone near Montgomery Co. could check on the dba records there as they won't do phone requests. One thing that still makes me uneasy and the reason I jumped to associating you with Joe was the use of the PO Boxes. H0059972 TACIDBLUE.COM 03-23-2001 P.O. BOX 251 / PORTER / TX 77365 Eryxma / Odisee / Glexicon all used variations on: P.O. Box 347 / Porter / TX 77365 P.O. Box 245 / Porter / TX 77365 Was this just a coincidence? Is this something Joe learned from you?

Posted by Coach, 05-03-2004, 04:14 PM
Your local authorities or his and file it as identity theft and fraud. Also contact the Harris County courthouse and inform them of the false Glexicon filing. Next disolve your current company and start fresh with real employees and not high school and middle school kids who don't have a clue as to what they're doing. When you start a new company, use all legal paperwork and filings under real names and not aliases, as you have stated that nearly everyone has done here. No matter what the truth is, the deception that has been layed down around your company brings forth some serious trust issues. No matter how serious you are, your reputation is always going to relected in who you associate yourself with. The saying goes something like "if you lie down with dogs, you're going to get fleas".

Posted by Mad_Martigan, 05-03-2004, 04:29 PM
Coach, I'm one of the Eryxma clients that foolishly paid for a year of service in advance. This means the dispute period with my bank has been exceeded. I did some research, and was able to obtain 2 phone numbers and 2 addresses for "Eryxma" from the merchant Linkpoint. Would it be unlawful to post that information here? I am also interested in filing a civil suit against Eryxma to get approximately 120$ of undelivered service. What can I do with these addresses without knowing if they are legitimate addresses? Legitimate meaning the addresses of Josuee Ortiz / Joe Shiekron, Former owner of Eryxma

Posted by guntersammet, 05-03-2004, 04:34 PM
I just got off the phone with my CC company. They tried to explain me in lenght that I can't cancel charges made to my account because the charges are preauthorized debit. I called them 2 weeks ago and told them that there might be another charge and I don't want this charge to be allowed. Joe that little bastard did charge me on begin of April for services from April-21 till May 20 and then again on April-22. They provided me with a phone number for Eryxma to call and I got through once and they hang up on me. Since then they didn't answer anymore. One option would be to cancel my card but that doesn't make those charges gone and it's always a big hassle to change everything around. Any suggestions how we can get the money back without too much "unpaid" work involved? And I am in Canada, which makes it more complicated. Gunter

Posted by EasterGift, 05-03-2004, 04:37 PM
[mod edit: Try this post again, but without flaming. It's understandable that you are upset, but the statement you made was uncalled for. Be professional.]

Posted by Coach, 05-03-2004, 04:39 PM
There is nothing wrong with posting phone numbers or addresses. If you were able to obtain them, then they must be public information. The question of what to do is not if the addresses are real, but if the names are. In that case, you would have to do a "John Doe" filing.

Posted by torrents, 05-03-2004, 04:54 PM
For some reason Robert goes to length to tell everything about Joe except where to find him. And also tries to dispute the TX birth records for Joe (yeah right he's 17, well not according to Texas). (..these are not the droids you are looking for..) Anyone interested in Mr. Joe might want to start with: http://www.cclerk.hctx.net/coolice/d...ervice=an_name and look for a La Casa Technologies which Joe was rumoured to be involved in. LA CASA TECHNOLOGIES 26860 MYSTIC CASTLE KINGWOOD

Posted by binaris, 05-03-2004, 05:06 PM
The few people that are under 18 that work for us are not your average high school students. I'm sure not everyone has heard of Stuyvesant or Thomas Jefferson, but let me assure you that they are two of the best schools in the nation. Mike, for one, helps maintain the entire school's Debian-based network at Stuy. Both Mike and Victor are going to school for computer science. Plus, they're both of legal age to work in this industry and can recieve W2's just like everyone else. So they do have a clue what they're doing, moreso than many of the people twice their age that we see come and go on these forums. As far as dissolving Glexicon, that's out of the question. I'm not sure if you've ever actually incorporated, but it's not cheap. And we did not file under aliases, that's impossible to do as - like I said - when you incorporate (at least in Texas), you must provide the social security number of the initial officers (i.e., Me). So whatever names and addresses the SoS has are valid and can be verified by their office, our agent, and our incorporator. I may have at one time been associated with Josuee, but I am in no way like him at all. And as far as Patrick's claim, Patrick will have to correct that himself. It was actually an error on his part, and the $900 was not taken from him by Josuee. Josuee did, however, try to take back $250 he had given Patrick via his ProPay account, but Patrick denied the withdrawl. Glexicon uses P.O. Box 245. Eryxma at one time had P.O. Box 251. Both were valid (at least I know ours is), but are unrelated. I never had access to Eryxma's, and Josuee never had access to ours. That may be a bit too similar though, so I'll probably get a new box at the local post office now that I've moved. We'll continue to use a box until we're able to move into an office (which I estimate will be done within the next 4 months). And (lastly), just because you have a DBA in one county, doesn't protect that assumed name in another county. And I cannot report identity theft because my identity wasn't stolen. However, I will call around and see what can be done; I have kept logs of almost every conversation and bash history.

Posted by binaris, 05-03-2004, 05:09 PM
News to me, but now that it's out in the open, yup... that's his home address. Josuee Shang Ortiz 26860 Mystic Castle Kingwood, TX 77339 Mad_Martigan, I don't see any problem with posting that home number. And torrents, you completely missed the point of my post... stop grasping for straws.

Posted by binaris, 05-03-2004, 05:20 PM
BTW, noticed a post on our own forums with this address: 1593 Kingwood Dr. Kingwood, TX 77515 United States That is fictional. If it does exist, it's not Eryxma or Josuee's. Also... 2600 Southwest Freeway Houston, TX 77098 ...is the address for the building with Everyones Internet leases the 3rd and 5th floors.

Posted by Website Rob, 05-03-2004, 05:25 PM
This thread gives serious validation as to why ICANN requires correct & accurate information in WHOIS documentation and should also raise lots of red flags, whenever thinking of doing business with people that list a PO Box for an address. I, for one, will never know (or understand) all the in's & out's of what happened in this situation, but do not appreciate Hosting companies that screw their Clients and give the Hosting Industry a bad name. It's bad for business and definitely bad for the Clients. Whatever the problem is, my suggestion is to fix it properly, fix it fast.

Posted by torrents, 05-03-2004, 05:30 PM
Why, after all our speculating and questions that went unanswered... why now do you now start to post anything useful? If I sound like I'm grasping for straws, it's because you haven't been forthcoming most of the time, and you've made many quesitonable statements about the migration, you've also made statements about deadlines, services, and honoring payments which you then later ignored, removed or reversed. And why aren't you afraid of Joe? He sounds pretty dishonest and like he could break into your house, or just steal someones identity, or hack into your computers...

Posted by Website Rob, 05-03-2004, 05:39 PM
Just to prevent any confusion, since torrents did not specify who they were referring to, I think it is safe to presume that, binaris AKA Robert Hinojosa, is the person the above post is referring to.

Posted by binaris, 05-03-2004, 06:20 PM
Would you be afraid of this? http://glexicon.com/personal/rhinojosa/Josuee_Ortiz.jpg Anyone can hide behind a computer, but breaking into someone's house brings it into the real world where punishment is much clearer. I've spent most of my time working on the company itself, I'm answering questions now because in the absence of my replies, speculation ran rampant.

Posted by TurboSC, 05-03-2004, 06:24 PM
I'm afraid to look that that picture for more than 5 seconds in fear of losing my vision.

Posted by loz, 05-03-2004, 06:27 PM
I am sorry, but you just stretch credibility with your constant knack of coming out with different versions of events only after someone has pointed out your own contradictions. So now we are to believe that Patrick rather conveniently made an error. Pity he never saw fit to withdraw his acqusation before then - he has had plenty of opportunity.

Posted by loz, 05-03-2004, 06:31 PM
No - you have made plenty of replies here before. You have made numerous attempts to answer the speculation, and failed. So it is interesting to know why you are being more open now - if indeed it is the thruth.

Posted by binaris, 05-03-2004, 06:34 PM
What are you talking about? Where are all these contradictions? You can't reply to an announcement thread. First of all, I haven't been on WHT in days. And why am I being open NOW? I've been open this whole time. Maybe if there were questions instead of baseless speculation, I would have had an opportunity to say more. Why is it, everytime you post, you just try to throw the thread off subject and return to your monotonous rants? Keep beating that dead horse, you're really good at it.

Posted by loz, 05-03-2004, 06:40 PM
It wasn't an announcement. See the earlier link (which you obviously never read) - he made the statement about Joe scamming his credit card RIGHT HERE IN THIS THREAD, and replied to it when other's gave him sympathy.

Posted by binaris, 05-03-2004, 06:45 PM
Ah, okay... you're right, I had forgotten that he posted that here. But now you're being critical of Pat's previous statements? Does it ever end or will you continue to have no sense of reason? I'm going to continue answering everyone elses questions, but I feel it'd be beneficial if I stopped replying to YOUR lies.

Posted by loz, 05-03-2004, 06:53 PM
I am the one lying? Please show me one post where I have lied. I have repeated other people allegations yes, but that isn't lying. And where am I critical of Pat's posts? I just pointed out to you what he had said, because you seemed to have conveniently forgot it when you said you weren't aware of Joe scamming anyone. Why don't you try being upfront and honest for a change, and being open, instead of denying things until confronted with the evidence. For example, trying to pretend your staff aren't school kids until presented with the evidence. Like trying to pretent you had "officially acquired the assets of Eryxma". I will happly stop posting here once you start do this (as in fact it seems like you are a bit more tonight) - it is quite simple.

Posted by placrosse, 05-03-2004, 07:11 PM
Each of the statements Rob has made today are truthful, and I'm in a position to know so I'm going to back him up. With regards to an earlier comment I made, I did infact make an inaccurate accusation (which I'm a bit embarrassed about) regarding certain funds withdrawn from my account, but it was my opinion it wasn't really necessary to correct my statements here when in fact he did attempt to withdraw $250 from my account fraudulently - Rob has the logs where Josuee clearly implicates himself on this charge. Unfortunately since I blocked that transaction immediately my bank told me that I couldn't really file a fraud affidavit since there was no actual theft as the charge had been reversed. Depressing news to say the least. As for him breaking and entering into my home (which again I have logs between Josuee and I where he clearly admits to it (!), I did file a report with the Sugar Land Police Dept and received a case # 04-2433 however since nothing was stolen (that I can surmise anyways), the officer rather frankly told me that it didn't have a very high priority, but it has been reported and is a Class A Misdemeanor. That didn't sit too well with me either, so shortly afterwards I called the IRS and filed a full report regarding his false IRS tax return, which the lady told me generally takes 3-6 months to investigate, and she also told me it was one of those "we'll call you, don't call us" if any more information was needed. That's the only actions I have taken in reporting this criminal thus far, outside of providing the image of Josuee that you see above you, and any relevant address information as to his whereabouts.

Posted by loz, 05-03-2004, 07:16 PM
I guess you forgot you were posting here yesterday. Another attempt to mislead?

Posted by placrosse, 05-03-2004, 07:27 PM
You're really sticking it to the man, loz

Posted by loz, 05-03-2004, 07:31 PM
Well I have had enough of this now. Time to move on. No doubt others will continue to monitor Glexicon's progress. Best keep on your toes!

Posted by placrosse, 05-03-2004, 07:33 PM
...and he folds

Posted by torrents, 05-03-2004, 07:37 PM
Now I am sticking up for Robert... I guess I feel bad about my previous efforts. Anyways, I think Robert meant that he stopped posting here for a few days and only recently started posting again. You are being a little too literal. Robert, what we don't understand maybe is that when confronted with all of this confusion and accounts of events in the past, you provided no real proof, just called us all and said you're leaving and not dealing with us. Then very effortlessly you post a lot of explanations... probably more than was even asked for in many ways. People will have doubts for a while about you, patrick, anyone associated with Eryxma. Many people questioned Shang and Sheikron and they were dismissed or misled similarly to how you used to act in this forum. Certainly, you have a more recent photo of Joe

Posted by placrosse, 05-03-2004, 07:45 PM
Errr, that's not Josuee. Let me post links to all of the pics I have, give me a few mins

Posted by placrosse, 05-03-2004, 08:07 PM
Here are all the images I had of him on my machine, none being more than 6-12 mo's old. http://www.glexicon.com/Josuee_ortiz1.jpg http://www.glexicon.com/Josuee_ortiz2.jpg http://www.glexicon.com/Josuee_ortiz3.jpg http://www.glexicon.com/Josuee_ortiz4.jpg http://www.glexicon.com/Josuee_ortiz5.jpg http://www.glexicon.com/Josuee_ortiz6.jpg

Posted by loz, 05-03-2004, 08:26 PM
OK, you want to keep it going. I will oblige... if that is the way you want it. I will hang on in here and see if there are any other contradictions, deceipt and lies you guys are spinning.

Posted by loz, 05-03-2004, 08:32 PM
Ok Patrick, so Joe tries to rob you of $250 and break into your house, and you report him to the IRS and the Police. Yet, when he comes asking for "help" (to quote Robert) you happily oblige and work with him to move Eryxma's clients over to Glexicon?

Posted by placrosse, 05-03-2004, 08:34 PM
Nope, I was enjoying my vacation in Chicago at the time this migration was commenced. I chose to stay as far away from the whole ordeal as possible. It wasn't until Rob came to me and showed me the logs of Josuee manipulating billing records that I was called in to block Josuee from all Glexicon servers. Last edited by placrosse; 05-03-2004 at 08:38 PM.

Posted by alapo, 05-03-2004, 09:04 PM
Summary anyone? Please?

Posted by Mad_Martigan, 05-03-2004, 09:45 PM
Wowzer, I take a 4 hour nap and a lot happens... yikes, lol. This reminds me of the posting battle between myself and Wendor on the Glexicon forums........ Here's the information that I have gathered: From Linkpoint #1: 617 - 395 - 4142 23200 Forest Dr. #1101 Kingwood, TX, 77339 # number does not belong to anyone according to: switchboard.com From Linkpoint #2: 281 - 354 - 4166 21905 Horse Shoe Circle Porter, TX, 77365 # belongs to: Milk, Daniel 21905 Horseshoe Cir Porter, TX 77365-6444 (281) 354-4166 According to switchboard.com Here's a few other ones I've gathered: 26860 MYSTIC CASTLE KINGWOOD, TX 77339 23200 Forest North Dr #1101 Kingwood, TX 77339 Phone Number: 281-358-5905 Again, I have not verified these, nor am I sure on how to do so - with out of course hiring a lawyer, and spending more than I'm already out... (What is a John Doe filing?)

Posted by Mad_Martigan, 05-03-2004, 09:55 PM
- Josuee got away (for the time being) with some peoples money. - Josuee shouldn't be allowed to run a business, as he's not responsible, or honest enough. - Some of the people from Glexicon were former employees of Eryxma. - Josuee is an entirely separate entity from Glexicon and it's employees - Glexicon Employees, know where to find Josuee, but the authorities are not taking the situation as a high priority, because the said crimes, were not committed against Glexicon. -There are a few people (myself at least), who would like to file a civil suit against Josuee / Eryxma, but are not sure how to do so... At least, that's my take on it.

Posted by Mad_Martigan, 05-03-2004, 10:04 PM
I just got this from the FTC complaint I filed:

Posted by kbillingsley, 05-03-2004, 10:37 PM
[QUOTE]Originally posted by binaris [B]What are you talking about? Where are all these contradictions? I posted a direct contradiction from you just yesterday. You have yet to respond to it. Was Eryxma a subsidiary of OdiSee or not? Which time were you lying? Someone is either a liar or their not. It's not a temporary condition. Why don't you post some pictures of yourself? Afraid that you wouldn't look much older than Shang? If age doesn't matter, why are you now posting these pictures of Shang to show how young he is? The plain and simple truth is that kids are irresponsible and tend to do irrational things. These are all kids, Robert included. If it turns out that his name really is Robert. So many lies have been told by this group that no one knows what to believe. That's not an attempt at deception, it's kids being stupid. I swear I'm going to send this whole story to Dateline NBC. Wouldn't that be a riot! Notice that I give my name in every post. I'm not afraid of my past or anything associated with my name. Kevin Billingsley Systems Engineer MacUpgrades

Posted by jtan, 05-03-2004, 11:21 PM
is there any public document from authority stating that eryxma is a fraud? i need something to print to submit to my credit card facility. thank you.

Posted by Micy, 05-03-2004, 11:45 PM
Patric LaCrosse, 04-13-2004 02:41 AM: ...I've also been blocked from the servers by Josuee, so I am now unable to assist in restoring order to our outstanding issues. Joe has blocked everyone but himself and I dont see that he's prepared or even concerned with dealing with the accumulating client support issues adequately.. Let me see if I understand this mess: first Josusee blocked you out, then you blocked him out? Suddenly you were able to block him out? So, if I understand this: when you blocked Josuee out this Jose have access also to Glexicon server? Conclusion: you worked togather with Josuee after you already know that Jose is imposter and thief? Patric LaCrosse, 04-13-2004 02:41 AM: " And in further interest of full disclosure, I've recently registered the trademark for Eryxma as Josuee never bothered to take care of this at all, so as I understand I have legal ownership of the company name per USPTO regulations, and I also have control over eryxma.com. I made these moves because I've had suspicions Josuee intends to sell the company here shortly and I wanted to insure that my personal investment as an unofficial partner here was not denied from me, as I was promised legal partnership status a long time ago but Josuee will not follow through with anything." So after you noticed that your "insurance" failed you decided to left Eryxma? Not before? On march 31 when your signature was bellow my bill everything was OK, you belived that you have "legal ownership of the company name" and also "control over eryxma"? After you find out that you do not heave ownership in Eryxma you decided to left Josuee? Not before, knowing that Josee is using false name and that he intend to defraud own customers? I'm asking this just of curiosity, nothing else... BTW - until now I didn't get any backup... It seems to me that it maid be truth that we will not get any backup from Glexicon at all... Last edited by Micy; 05-03-2004 at 11:49 PM.

Posted by mastermal, 05-04-2004, 02:36 AM
@kbillingsley: I remember a pic of Rob with his girlfriend from a year ago... And let me tell you he doesn't look like a kid. Maybe because he isn't,. at least according to common sense, not you. When it comes to the sig: So does Robert. Or haven't you noticed? But maybe you were to busy fearing a "kid" might take over your job one day...

Posted by placrosse, 05-04-2004, 02:59 AM
Micy, I'm not rehashing anything for your sole benefit, I think I've been pretty forthcoming thus far but you seem intent on "baiting" me or something and frankly you're getting on my nerves.

Posted by Micy, 05-04-2004, 04:35 AM
Your name, Patric, was below my bills. Why did you allowed him to put your name on our bills, Patric? Because you didn't know fe. on March 31 that Ortiz is hiding conection with previous frauds? You were not aware on March 31 that Ortiz is "dirty, dirty rat"? Would you left Eryxma also in case that "dirty, dirty rat" Ortiz gave you legal partnership in business? You were Eryxma's partner and owner "of the company name per USPTO regulations". You registred Eryxma's trademark using your name, not false Ortiz's name, you payed registration as your "personal investment", I belive the other terms is that you payed your "share" in business, isn't that correct? And you registred trademark as un unoficial partner from Eryma to "insure that my personal investment as an unofficial partner here was not denied from me". After Ortiz denied yours "legal partnership" you left Eryxma, soon after your "resignation" Glexicon "has officially acquired the assets of Eryxma Hosting"... Ortiz intend to "sell the company here shortly ", Glexicon "has officially acquired the assets of Eryxma" and suddenly you found your self in another company - Glexicon?! That's better as fairy tales from Grimm's brothers are, happy end for unsatisfy unoficial Eryxma partner and owner of Eryxma's trademark. You found your happy end after all, from ruined Cyberwings and ruined Eryxma to successful Glexicon, from Shawn White (currently in federal prison for wire fraud) to Robert Hinojosa... And now I'm eating your nervs just to asking you simple question? Well, Patric, your name on bills "eat" my money, exacly 53,90 $, also I didn't get backup of my VPS account yet. So menawhile waiting on my backup I heave enough time to ask you "nervs eating" question. I heave enoug time... waiting... think on your happiness, your luck that you finnaly found partner who's using real name and it's not in federal prison for wire fraud or is not hiding with false name connection to failed hosting company called Tacidblue ... I'm not happy at all, Patric... Your previos partner took my money and I still do not have my backup. Or are those who're claiming that I will not get any backup right? Last edited by Micy; 05-04-2004 at 04:39 AM.

Posted by binaris, 05-04-2004, 05:32 AM
Some additional information... Found Josuee's newest Vonage number: (832) 644-2144 (Verified 5/4/04) Also, Patrick recieved a transfer request from Westley Trevino for the domain name la-casa.us. Patrick denied the request and has parked it on our servers. This domain name, la-casa.us, was to be Josuee's "house" domain... that is, for his home network. However in light of the DBA that was mentioned earlier in this thread, I would recommend anyone reading this keep an eye out for "La Casa Networks" or anything similar.

Posted by Micy, 05-04-2004, 07:30 AM
don't worry, we will. but i wanna know: when will you finally provide my backup? come on, i'm waiting from april 27! that's what i wanna know. so when? today, tomorow, never? helo?! is your support center working or you chase Josee? helo, my support ticket is NGS-12580 and still, after all waiting and providing you information you didn't oprovide me this backup!!!

Posted by binaris, 05-04-2004, 10:05 AM
If you could politely forward your ticket information to Patrick @ placrosse (at) glexicon.com, he'll have someone take care of that.

Posted by ActuaryTm, 05-04-2004, 11:16 AM
I've not seen a response to this particular post of this thread, either. As others have mentioned as well, I unfortunately do not have the liberty of constantly monitoring this forum, but certainly some of these issues that have been raised were valid. Unfortunately, a number of the issues have not been issued a response. While portions of the information provided by Glexicon are somewhat believable, there exists a few discontinuities and incongruences in at the very least a portion of the information being distributed. A number of issues were mentioned here, and for the most part have been ignored or lost in the shuffle. I would have to agree with loz on the assessment that Glexicon has not exactly been forthright in disclosing the age of some of their staff members. Before arguements are made on either side of this point, any logical individual can see there are inherent issues (at times) that can result from a younger person becoming a staff member for a company serving thousands of clients. These issues can include (but are certainly not limited to) : other responsibilities that are often dictated by other individuals (school, familal responsibilities, etc), lack of a permanent residence in which said individual is the head of the household, lack of financial independence (including financially providing for one's domicile, one's own utilities (electric, gas, phone, internet connection, etc), one's own health plan or medical expenses, etc), lack of some personal freedoms, etc. Let me emphasize that these issues in no way discredit their talents or abilities, but it can certainly be seen how they could in fact affect their productivity and availability. Will agree Stuyvesant is an excellent institution, though I am personally more fond of Hunter (have a younger relative who attends there). However, again, that being said, the aforementioned issues do matter, and are a concern to most business persons. I think much of the same mentioned above could be said in regards to a full time business person doing "work on the side" as a hosting company. Also, one final note - I politely submitted a ticket over a week ago. My ticket number is VQM-60928. I have read the announcment stating this data should be available May 8th; however, would be remiss if it were not mentioned that I have read similar announcements and promises in the past days 21 days (three weeks now) regarding the availability of this data.

Posted by torrents, 05-04-2004, 02:59 PM
I am fairly certain if you read everything from here and Glexicon forum, Robert has been consistent and puts forth a logical explanation (at least in technicalities). Odisee was just a fictional named company, just like Eryxma was until it got big, just like Glexicon was until a while ago. Robert has admitted some connection between Odisee and Eryxma and Glexicon, but what really is important is simply that Joe ran Eryxma (and is no longer involved) and Robert wants to make Glexicon legit and well run hosting company. Glexicon is now incorporated. Disclaimer: Do I think Robert posted things about VPS and honoring past payments and then took them back, yes... Do I think the whole deal with "acquiring" clients was shady, yes... Should he at least have found a new post office, yes... Should Robert have offered to host Eryxma clients for free for two months (and charge for bandwidth), yes... Do I fully trust anyone (ever again), no... Is it wrong to send out an email to thousands of disconnected clients and tell them you have "acquired their accounts and are migrating them" and then do neither without getting money (hello, data extortion), YES.... Firstly, until someone actually makes it in person to the Montgomery Co. Clerk and checks out the dba records, will never really know real the timeline of events. Secondly, maybe Robert can answer my final question.. Is it just coincidence that Glexicon is now at EV1 and Wes also said this: "Got things talked out with Joe and he may even be able to get me a position at Everyone's Internet." Or is that just grasping at straws saying that Joe has influence or maybe working at EV1? Finally, I do want to say that I am a little skeptical even still, only in that in all my research Robert's name never came up, not at New Caney HS, not amongst Joe's friends. Join that to the usage of PO Boxes and the same MO.. and the odd absence of Ronnie's involvement anywhere.. makes me a little uneasy. But I have nothing left that might indicate Robert's version of events are not true or that Ronnie was involved other than Joe using his name and also the dba stuff.

Posted by Mad_Martigan, 05-04-2004, 03:38 PM
Public authority delcaring Eryxma a fraud? Not that I'm currently aware of. Though complaints to the BBB, FTC, FBI, and I think possibly local (Texas) authorities have been made...... I'm not quite sure what you have to print out to send to your credit card company. At the very least, you should explain your situation (fees paid or taken for services not delivered), and that you would like to dispute the charges.

Posted by torrents, 05-04-2004, 03:45 PM
I wonder if Robert's initial letter would work? It did say the company was acquired... Maybe his second post regarding the fraudulant billing. Why can't you tell them all the contact information in not valid and there is no way to contact the company. Maybe fill out the ifcc form and print that out and send it also to your CC company. (you did cancel that number, didn't you?)

Posted by w0rn, 05-04-2004, 03:51 PM
Thanks for pointing this out! Eryxma, Glexicon, Tacidblue, Webhostingonline, etc. seem to be all the same people, with tons of aliases, and run a ton of games on this and at other forums pretending to be different people. Grifters.

Posted by w0rn, 05-04-2004, 04:10 PM
Pat, we believe you to be the [mostly] honest one in the bunch. Tell us who is who in this twisted tale of aliases?

Posted by torrents, 05-04-2004, 04:39 PM
w0rn, Robert already answered this (Pat's answer will be the same)... Please read everything before re-posting the same already answered stuff. (it's back a page)

Posted by w0rn, 05-04-2004, 04:55 PM
There SHOULD be 2 actionable items for law enforcement: 1- Fraud The FBI, FTC, or local authorities can and should act upon, Jousee/Serafin/Eryxma illegally billing [repeataedly in some instances] clients AFTER they went out of business. Also, the company never filed for Chapter 11, 7, or 13. They simply vanished. I'll have to look it up, but companies dissolving need to file notice to customers. 2-Privacy It is also hard to believe that Glexicon acquired ALL of Eryxma's client information free of cost or association--client Web sites, client content, user information, etc. Federal regulations such as HIPAA, GLBA, or Privacy Act information are protected information that cannot be transferred without without written notice or adherence to the provacy policies of the company and/or protected under federal regulation such as credit card information. Your state's bureau of investigation, FBI, or the FTC should be point contacts for these types of regulation breaches. In California, SB1386 protects California citizens' privacy information (SSN, credit card info, etc.) and upon being breached, are actionable within California. Matters occurring TO California residents outside of California are ALSO actionable. the California Bureau of Investigations should be a point contact. There's something we aren't being told about this "acquisition." Remember there was a big stink when Pets.com filed Chapter 11 and tried to sell their client list to Petsmart.com. That was stopped by privacy privacy laws. I suggest each of you submit a notice to the links suggested pages ago--local FBI, FTC, your state Bureau of Investigation, and Better Business Bureau regarding YOUR experience with Eryxma and Glexicon. We were double billed and I never authorized my credit card or personal information to be transferred to Glexicon from Eryxma...and we know you had our information. You admitted it in your own forums. At this point, Jousee Ortiz and Guadelupe Won Milk are immediately accountable, Officers at Glexicon (Robert Hinojosa) are also accountable as far as being accessories to fraud or privacy violations. Please everyone, do your part, inform the authorities, and let the judicial system dispatch these folks according to the laws of this country and local jurisdiction. Robert, if you are honest, the truth will set you free and you will come out of this. Last edited by w0rn; 05-04-2004 at 05:03 PM.

Posted by w0rn, 05-04-2004, 04:56 PM
22 pages, I had questions along the way. Good job pulling the truth out of these guys by the way!

Posted by nova9, 05-04-2004, 05:02 PM
You bet. You have nothing to be afraid of, if you've done nothing wrong. If all these latest messages tell the truth, you could have avoided much of this agressive posting here, if you've done this earlier. That's the part that worries me, the cryptic behavior in the start.

Posted by w0rn, 05-04-2004, 05:04 PM
Exactly.

Posted by torrents, 05-04-2004, 05:05 PM
Robert, I am also troubled by this statement. Shortly after finding out about those livejournal pages were being read and you were tipped off to that. (I will admit that last sentence is my opinion and do not care to debate it) Wes put in this paragraph by request, or else really did go to dinner with Robert. Either way, doesn't matter. The only other possibility is another Robert (never mentioned before by Wes) coincidentally show up in his LJ.. Which I doubt. The DBA for La Casa is clearly in Wes's name. And yet you clearly are giving him trouble over a domain name. So either you are two-faced to this guy. Or you are planning to host his domain. Or this is all for show. Wes's previous post indicated much of the same things that "Patrick" has said about owning certain domain names.. Again.. a little too coincidental for me. The whole thing always seems to be intertwined with you folks. Both Patrick and Wes have claimed to own Eryxma-type domain names (sheikron was all done at the same time). I guess the most simple explanation is that this is a different Robert. And Joe lost the domain name to glexicon or lied about it to Wes?

Posted by torrents, 05-04-2004, 05:14 PM
Where have you been?! I'm sorry I said anything about your requoting old news. What a brillant post. Also, the double billing apparently took place after/during the acqusition.. So who's servers did this happen on? Who had passwords, etc. Was it on Glexicon servers that he ran the scripts? I originally thought this way you mention above, and that's why the Glexicon & Eryxma being owned by the same guy seem to make sense, it seemed to skirt around the acquisition and privacy and billing info stuff. But then Robert explained that Glexicon is really legally filed DBA in Montogomery Co. (needs verified) and Eryxma are different businesses. The ironic part of it is, had everything been transferred smoothly and not immediately asked us for money, no one would have really cared.

Posted by nova9, 05-04-2004, 05:34 PM
The double billing didn't took place after/during the acquisition only, it took place before too. For example, I was billed in the end of March, although it should recycle in early April.

Posted by nova9, 05-04-2004, 05:40 PM
I posted that before: Ortiz posted in EV1 forums in early March, as "Robert Cruz", asking about leasing 3 servers. Double billing started two weeks later. The fiasco took place two more weeks after that.

Posted by w0rn, 05-04-2004, 05:42 PM
I hope enough of us Eryxma customers file a complaint to shed light into the whole truth of the matter. I'm no longer with Eryxma and I'm definitely not going with Glexicon, but expect and hope for a little Texas justice.

Posted by nova9, 05-04-2004, 05:44 PM
That's easy for those located in the US.

Posted by loz, 05-04-2004, 05:45 PM
I thought the same when I read w0rn's post, but to be fair, Glexicon did say here that they found the billing script running on CP1 which implies it was was one of Eryxma's old servers, during the transfer. (however, we cannot be sure of that - we only have Glexicon's word for it) However, w0rn's post does raise the question (which I raised somewhere else in this vast sea of posts here and elsewhere) about what rights Glexicon had to copy customers data, and personal details (which presumably included CC numbers) without customer's permission. Did customers sign over that right to Eryxma deep down in the T&C I wonder? Even so, you could also ask the question that even if the billing script was running on an Eryxma server and not Glexicon's, as this was on 23rd April, AFTER the supposed Glexicon "acquisition" on the 16th April, were those machines therefore running under Glexicon's control and hence responsibility? If so, no matter where they and the data were located, and no matter who initiated the activity (Joe) does this mean they share some responsibility for that billing activity? If so, would this mean that customers (who had by now been "acquired" by Glexicon remember) actually have a case against Glexicon for allowing the fraudulent billing script to run - and it is Glexicon who have a case against Joe for fraudulant use of their resouces (now aquired remember) , not the customers? In Glexicon's defense they do appear to have made every effort to halt the activity once they found out. But who needs to make a civil claim against who in this case sounds like one for the lawyers

Posted by w0rn, 05-04-2004, 05:53 PM
Much of the same, if not stricter, laws are already in place in Europe and are governed by the EU 1995 European Data Protection Directive. Violations of those breaches are accountable and transferrable to the US. Contact your local authorities or your federal authorities. In the US, your best option is at the state and federal levels, local police are just not equipped to handle Internet fraud. I'm sure that this is also true in Europe and Asia.

Posted by w0rn, 05-04-2004, 06:16 PM
Got them: goto: "www.zakpatel.com/projects/va/eryxma/acceptableusepolicy.htm" OR goto: "64.233.161.104/search?q=cache:6UNzKrmdlMUJ:http://www.ev1severs.com/about.legal...Bprivacy&hl=en" This is the Eryxma Acceptable Use and Privacy Policy. Sharing of private information is only allowed for legal matters. Eryxma had no right to disclose any of our information, especially our financial information to Glexicon without our consent or a written court order. Last edited by w0rn; 05-04-2004 at 06:21 PM.

Posted by w0rn, 05-04-2004, 06:35 PM
More of the same and getting prepared to screw the Glexicon customers in a few years... goto: glexicon.com/about/terms/ Terms & Policies [ Terms of Service ] [ Acceptable Use Policy ] Section 18b and 18d are the most troubling and open the opportunity for Glexicon to sell customer data as did Eryxma's client base. This was MISSING in the Eryxma AUP shown above. Section 18b, gives Glexicon the right to assign [or transfer] YOUR Agreement without notice to another party at anytime without consent from or notice. Now, Glexicon has addressed our rights to go after Eryxma for violating privacy laws. Eryxma is open for us to go after them, but Glexicon is not under their current TOS. Section 18d, absolves Glexicon for any damages due to outage or lack of service. Again, we can go after Eryxma for non-delivery of advertised and paid service (fraud). Glexicon is also waiving their SLAs. They don't have to achieve their SLAs with this section.

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Posted by binaris, 05-04-2004, 11:15 PM
That's definitely not me... like I said previously, those other Roberts whose names Josuee used as aliases are real people. They were friends of both Wes and Josuee, but I don't believe they are aware that their names have ever been used. I don't know any of Wes's friends other than Josuee and Cindy, but I'm sure he knows more than a few Roberts. Just like most of us, Wes made the mistake of getting involved with Josuee and now his life is being scrutinized here on WHT. Regardless, picking apart the terms and policies is a bit much... take a look at those of other hosts, even large companies like Interland, 1&1, etc. and they'll have much of the same, even though they rarely have outages. And as far as Eryxma's domains, you'll have to talk to Pat about those... I have no access to them except for that granted by them being pointed to our DNS servers now. Seeing as Josuee is still 17, and Wes is ~19, the DBA was probably gotten for Josuee's use anyway. So "La Casa" may still have been on the table.

Posted by binaris, 05-04-2004, 11:19 PM
BTW... we are slowly but surely getting those VPS requests fulfilled: http://forums.glexicon.com/showthread.php?t=551

Posted by Micy, 05-04-2004, 11:33 PM
Well, corect me if I'm wrong but few days ago you said that we must open ticket in your so called supposrt center, post thete information about VPS account and wait on answer. Now I must polite aks Patric for the same? Halo? I posted VPS information (NGS-12580) on 27 Apr 2004 11:21 PM, I mailed to poor Patric, victim of imposter Ortiz, on May 03 2004 but after all your "support center" was not able to provide me my backup. Philip Evans (staff) , Posted on 03 May 2004 09:01 AM : "I am currently searching for your VE backup. " I suppose, hi is searching this backup 2 days long... From april 19 2004 you were not able to provide me backup of my site. Such attitude is, by your opinion, polite? I will ask you once again. will you give me backup of my site and if yes when will this happen? Today, tomorrow, never? Is that maybe unpolite question? I belive that you promesed us VPS backups, but after all you promesed on april 19 that all accounts will start "from zero balance" but next day you broke your word. So, after all, who's lieng here? All those defrauded customer who are claiming that we will not get any VPS backup or you, Robert Hinojosa, CEO and president of Glexicon, who wrote those posts: 19 April 2004, 02:35 AM : As of now, we are wrapping up pending transactions. Any accounts which have not been transferred will now be manually backed up and transferred to the correct server, where it will be manually restored.VPS clients will be backed up and transferred to new servers in anticipation of restoration by SWsoft staff. 19 April 2004, 10:57 PM : All VPS data is being transferred. 19 April 2004, 10:32 PM : All accounts will start with a zero balance. Basically, you can consider any payments you made to Eryxma as honored by Glexicon, and you will receive the remaining period on your previous hosting agreement at no additional charge (as would be expected). So, who's here talking lies? Defrauded customer or you, Hinojosa? Who's right? All those defrauded customer claiming that we will not get any VPS backup or you? Yes, sure: You sending us to read topic that we cann not access? Last edited by Micy; 05-04-2004 at 11:40 PM.

Posted by Micy, 05-04-2004, 11:55 PM
Since I'm waiting on VPS backup from april 19, since I'm waiting on Glexicon's support center to provide me my backup since april 27, since I'm unpolite and heave enoug time to ask "nervs eating" question, here is another one: Let us see once again this text: " And in further interest of full disclosure, I've recently registered the trademark for Eryxma as Josuee never bothered to take care of this at all, so as I understand I have legal ownership of the company name per USPTO regulations, and I also have control over eryxma.com. I made these moves because I've had suspicions Josuee intends to sell the company here shortly and I wanted to insure that my personal investment as an unofficial partner here was not denied from me, as I was promised legal partnership status a long time ago but Josuee will not follow through with anything." Seling the company is not ilegal or agains the law... But, during all this time that i spend waiting on my backup, I heave following question: is it possible that Glexicon is in fact this "insurance" for Patric LaCrosse and Robert Hinojosa? Sorry, but I'm waiting so long, heaving enough time to read your posts and suddenly I got this strange idea.... I visit the first link and ... funny, real funny what I heave found: Since 2001? with 100 sites? Last edited by Micy; 05-05-2004 at 12:00 AM.

Posted by Chainhost-General, 05-05-2004, 12:54 AM
Patrick you do realize that by owning eryxma you are liable for damages even though you may not have been the "owner of the company"

Posted by Mad_Martigan, 05-05-2004, 01:39 AM
Unfortuneatly, I don't think anyone will be held accountable until an investigation is opened... Which won't be done until: 1: Enough reports are made - and the total amount de-frauded becomes excessive (100K$ for an FBI investigation) (Though I agree Glexicon COULD be held liable, I'm not sure that's the objective...) 2: A suit is filed against Josuee. I think that once a suit is filed against Josuee, and he doesn't show, OR even that he does, and is required to return stolen monies, other things will be looked into. ie: DBA names, Taxes, Good Business, (other fishy, questionable things) etc... Shall we focus on putting together some sort of civil class action suit against Josuee / Eryxma? I personally think that would be the first step in "following the white rabbit"........ My buddy said he'd talk to his lawyer about my situation (I don't have money for a lawyer), and I'll post what information they give me.

Posted by Micy, 05-05-2004, 02:04 AM
I'm still waiting on backup of my VPS account... aceadoni: "Patrick you do realize that by owning eryxma you are liable for damages even though you may not have been the "owner of the company" No, he do not realize that. After all, now he's claiming that his name on our bills was accidently there, just because he was "responsible" for HSP... Maybe... But is this a fact or just excuse? I still heave enough time waiting on my VPS backup, so I wanna post about this Hinojosa's post again: I'm asking my self - because my english is reather poor - what exacly mean word: assets? I look into vocabulary and found out that assets means also: active capital, in US also resources, in pasiva assets and liabilities, the excess of liabilities over assets... (but unfortunately I do know if it is valid in Texas) Word "honored" came from honorarium, (plural hororaria, hororariums) (maybe in Texas this word heave different meaning?) It seems to me - but maybe just because my english is reather poor - that Glexicon has obligation to clients of ruined Eryxma – question is just did Glexicon's obligation includes more then "access to VPS accounts backup" or are obligation exatly what Hinojosa wrote on april 19th: "...consider any payments you made to Eryxma as honored by Glexicon, and you will receive the remaining period on your previous hosting agreement at no additional charge (as would be expected)." Last of all, Robert Hinojosa wrote on april 28: " Also, we never stated that we have no obligations... other members of this forum did." But result is following: most of VPS clients were kicked out of Glexicon's forum, we posted ticket on Glexicon's "support center" 1 week ago - still we didn't get backup of VPS accounts. After all I'm wondering how is possible that Glexicon stuff refuse to give us information about Oriz's address, in same time owner of Eryxma's trademark, Patric laCrosse is posting Ortiz's pictures? Why ? To prove what? CEO of Glexicon is posting now some news about Ortiz's new activity... Well, why is so important that we know what's Ortiz doing now, I belive that for VPS clients is more important answer to simple question: WHEN WILL WE GET OUR BACKUPS? Or the truth is - after all - that all persons claiming that Eryxma and Glexicon are the same "company" were right, that truth is that we will not get any VPS backup and that we were defrauded twice: first when we payed bills with Patric's, Eryxma's unoficial partner , name, second when we trusted Glexicon that is just metter of (24 - 48 hours) time to "accomodate these VPS clients", then that "all accounts will start with zero balance", then that "support center" will provide us VPS backups? There is only one way to find out who's telling a gross untruth - Glexicon will answer with VPS backups in next 24 hours or I belive that any promes made by Glexicon pointed out that we are victims of both "companies": Eryxma and Glexicon and that Glexicon 's stuff spoke untruths from the beginning. p.s. As I posted before - one of defrauded customers warned me that probably I will get such answer from Glexicon: sorry, but your data was lost in those 5 % of lost data during migration... maybe, but in this case I'm wondering why did Hinojosa posted: "All VPS data is being transferred." (april 19) And again we are on begining: who is lieing to us and why? We will see... I'm willing to belive that maybe we are to rigid to Glexicon but on another side... Well I'm waiting on my backup since april 19!

Posted by binaris, 05-05-2004, 02:29 AM
Mica/Micy, It's apparent that you do not understand English very well, as I have told you here, on our forums, etc. what you need to do. You're bringing up a lot of old stuff that has since been updated, but I'll again direct you to actually read this thread and the pertinent information elsewhere. I'm not going to address the further speculation in your posts because, quite frankly, it's a bit hard to understand you. However what I am able to translate just seems like another round of "beating a dead horse". I don't know who told you what you keep quoting, but I don't know of anyone thus far whose data has been missing. As I said earlier, we are getting backups out, and that has been confirmed by others on our forums as well. Rumors, speculation, assumptions... all not good. Ask for the truth, don't try to make it up yourself.

Posted by Micy, 05-05-2004, 03:23 AM
I understand you very well (this time): first you kicked me out of forum and now you claim that I must read the forum? How? Sorry, you give me ban, you kicked me out. So, I posted you ticket NGS-12580. Cann you answer me: when and how will i get my backup? Or maybe I must guess what you post on forum wich is not avaiable for me? I do not speculate, I just ask you for some answers. Are you both, Patric and you, nervous, after reading my posts or what? You erased post on Glexicon's forum, but before you erased several topics I saved them. FE topic: Wrap Up . I heave full copy of this topic. It seems to me that on this topic you promesed a lot, isn't that correct? Don't worry, if you erased it by mistace I cann send it to you, full copy. I'm asking you for the truth: when will you give me my backup? About rumors? What rumors? I quote just you and Patric Lacrosse. Patric claimed hemself that he is "unoficial" partner, on Glexicon's forum your gave yourself promeses... a lot of them... My truth is: you didn't provide me any backup since april 19. That's a fact! my Account No 1254, Subscription ID 1443, send me a mail when and how cann I get my backup and when we solve this litlle problem we cann talk further. Polite or unpolite, but until I do not get my backup i will not trust you at all. I'm wiling to belive you but it will not go this way that you tel me fairy story - start with backup of my site! Do something, give me my backup, instead that you spend your time here clatter - chatter with me. Go, work, do something, make my backup... finnaly.

Posted by loz, 05-05-2004, 03:56 AM
My point earlier though was that at the time of the alleged fraudulant billing of customers, the assets had now been acquired by Glexicon. Though the billing application might have been initiated by Josuee in this case, the billing application itself and the client data used was now Glexicons - remember the post earlier where they tried to limit what they acquired to software licences and client data, well that is what was being used in this case. Glexicon's newly acquired software and client data sent people the alleged fraudulant billing, not Josuee per se. It was Glexicon's responsibility to ensure the software and data was "clean", and their responsibility to administer who had access to those systems and what they were doing with them. If Josuee had access to those newly acquired systems then Glexicon must have granted it to him, and therefore they were responsible. I don't believe that Glexicon can say that any alleged fraudulant activity between 16th April when they acquired Eryxma's assets, and 23rd April when they decided to halt the acquisition, is nothing to do with them. It was their newly acquired software and data that performed the alleged fraudulant billing, and the job was initiated by someone they had granted access to these assets. As such, the question I was asking was should customers who were allegedly fradulantly billed take their case up with Glexicon as the company responsible for the assets that performed the billing, whilst Glexicon take up their case with Josuee for the allegedly fradulant use of their systems? Of course this is not relative to folks like me who were billed before April 16th by Eryxma for a service they did not deliver. Clearly our case, if we have one, is with Eryxma and Josuee. This is only relevant to those who were allegedly fraudulantly billed between 16th and 23rd April.

Posted by torrents, 05-05-2004, 08:15 AM
The people that have been (are being) double billed haven't been very specific... But it appears the billing is still going on and definately took place after April 20th. I am pretty sure much of the billing took place during migration or even on Glexicon server, (re-read Roberts post about the billing script) So what I still don't get is how does Robert & Patrick have all the root passwords on both servers and HOW did they end up with all the domain registration information?? How is Eryxma.com redirected to glexicon? How was Joe locked out of the server if it wasn't Glexicon's... If Joe really did just walk away, none of this would be the case.

Posted by w0rn, 05-05-2004, 11:40 AM
Well the rest of us speak perfect English. Robert, you've been spinning a lot of tales and only when confronted with the truth you start talking directly.

Posted by torrents, 05-05-2004, 11:57 AM
If you haven't cancelled any credit cards asociated with Eryxma, you should since it appears Joe is still at it. As one of the biggest skeptics of Robert, I do have to say he's been pretty forthcoming lately... (usually after being confronted with data of some sort).

Posted by capnqwest, 05-05-2004, 12:20 PM
He has been hitting my Bank of America card so hard that they've launched their own investigation. I left the card open but blocked all charges per their request so they can investigate the fraud.

Posted by ActuaryTm, 05-05-2004, 01:12 PM
Have to agree partially with this assessment, although I haven't received a single response (via email, via Glexicon ticket, or via these forums) to the issues raised here, here, or here (including one post made by a Community Liason). Perhaps a few of us are not rude or onery enough to warrant a response?

Posted by torrents, 05-05-2004, 01:46 PM
lol... I got lots of responses... oh. wait.

Posted by binaris, 05-05-2004, 02:43 PM
Josuee has not once used any Glexicon software or servers to defraud anyone. The last occurence took place on CP1.MYHOSTDNS.ORG (64.5.40.21). If anyone knows how to look at the email headers, you'll be able to confirm that. Patrick locked him out of his own servers, yes. This was done with SSH keys Josuee had given both he and I. Patrick was the owner of eryxma.com and myhostdns.org. He changed the nameservers to point to one of our Plesk servers and he is also taking care of anything coming into domains@eryxma.com, which allows us to manage the OnlineNIC account. OnlineNIC has been very cooperative and helpful and has transferred the account into our name. If anyone has the headers from an email originating from eryxma@msn.com, I'd like to see them. The source client IP may assist in finding where he's got this rogue ModernBill installation setup. http://forums.glexicon.com/showthread.php?t=565 As far as any acquisition, forget it. Even if most everyone didn't understand what exactly was acquired (software and client data, btw), that deal is null and void, and the point is moot. I did respond to Coach's post though, read a little further. And no, Eryxma was not an OdiSee subsidiary. Josuee did use the OdiSee name without my permission. I don't remember ever saying it myself, but it wouldn't surprise me if I did... I was probably being stupid. Big mistake, so I'm here correcting myself a couple of years later. The point is, it was never anything official, so the truth is they were never, and will never, be associated with each other at all.

Posted by Micy, 05-05-2004, 02:51 PM
I posted my last post at 09:25 (CET), now is here 20:05 and Robert Hinojosa as CEO of Glexicon didn't answer me on simple question: WHEN WILL I GET BACKUP OF MY VPS ACCOUNT? My ticket to so called "support" center VPS information (NGS-12580) was posted on 27 Apr 2004 11:21 PM. Last reply from so called staff was made by Victor Mircea, Technical Support Staff, Glexicon Communications on 03 May 2004 02:08 PM. Since then there is any new reply from "support center". So, Robert Hinojosa, what's the truth after all? Who's the lier? All those people claiming that we will not get any VPS backup or you, Robert Hinojosa? Because I heave a time I will post another, as you said yourself "rumors, speculation, assumptions". With this rumor so called "migration" started on April 19. Thruth is that Glexicon – as well as ruined Eryxma – don't heave any "exclusive colocation facility in Houston, Texas". The truth is that Glexicon's "exclusive colocation facility" are not yours, they belong to the company Server Matrix. Is that a truth, Hinojosa, or cann you tell us where exacly cann we find so called "exclusive colocation facility in Houston, Texas". Is address of so called "exclusive colocation facility in Houston, Texas" secret, so deep that you cann not tell it to us? Or maybe is "exclusive colocation facility in Houston, Texas" your living room with p.o. opened by some "unoficial" partner? When I asked Server matrix to provide me backup of my site, I got an answer that they cann not help me "with Eryxma"! I'm going to repeat my previous question: Why did Server Matric wrote "Eryxma" instead "Glexicon"? Also, here is another rumer made by Hinojosa: I sended a mail to SWSoft about Eryxma and here is the answer: They didn't mention Glexicon at all. So, tell me, Robert Hinojosa, how is that possible? maybe also employees of ServerMatric and SWSoft have some linguistic problems? Or is the truth that we are dealing not with two but just with one company: Glexicon former known as Eryxma? Well, maybe I'm wrong but still my truth is: Since April 19 Glexicon didn't provide me backup of my VPS account. How is this possible, Hinojosa? let me guess: Or you didn't pay to Server Matric and/or to SWSoft ? Or maybe your stuff is without neccesary knowledge to provide us backup? Or maybe you just lied on april 19 posting that "all VPS data is being transferred"... So if I'm wrong: where is backup of my VPS account? BTW - what's the status of Patric LaCrosse in Glexicon? Is he unoficial partner, legal partner, owner of trademark ...? Just asking...

Posted by loz, 05-05-2004, 02:54 PM
As far as I understood it, you "acquired" Eryxma's asserts on 16th of April, and decided to halt this on 23rd of April. During which time Eryxma's assets were under your control, and therefore your responsibility. By your own admission that was the software and client data. Was it not the software and client data that was used to bill Eryxma clients during that period? If you didn't acquire the data, how come you attempted to restore my website, and had access to my personal data on your servers, which YOU Glexicon were using, not Eryxma? Or are you saying you didn't acquire anything on 16th April, and the whole episode was just a shame?

Posted by ActuaryTm, 05-05-2004, 02:57 PM
I stand corrected. I do see the response to that post now, which I did indeed miss earlier. In response to the acquisition issues, they are, unfortunately, NOT moot simply because the aquisition was halted/foregone by Glexicon. There are responsibilities to potential clients regarding disclosure (as in, the telling of events as they are actually transpiring as opposed to partial disclosure after the fact) which were rather conveniently dismissed with no regard or care, it seems. There have been several cases of misinformation given such as this, and this matter goes straight to the heart of the issues Coach raised regarding trust and reputation. These are certainly of value to me, as well as others no doubt. The last reference posted above (that would be this one) offered some information regarding a ticket, which has yet to receive a response, either here or through the ticket interface. We all make mistakes, and I point out this particular one to ensure your mistake does not go unchecked. Last edited by ActuaryTm; 05-05-2004 at 03:07 PM.

Posted by binaris, 05-05-2004, 03:06 PM
You'll get your data when one of our techs find it. Did you include your VE ID? That would be of assistance... Then you have recieved a reply? Good... that means someone's working on it. "All those people"? I thought it was just one? Regardless, we are getting backups out, as many have posted on our forums confirming this. I believe you cannot see that thread because you were banned for repeatedly posting the same garbage, hijacking the threads of people that really needed assistance, making threats, and generally being rude via the forums, ticket, and email. No, we do not use Server Matrix. Server Matrix is a value-oriented subsidiary of The Planet, which is in Dallas TX. Our servers are located in a private rack at EV1's new datacenter on Benmar Drive, Houston TX 77032 (near IAH airport). I doubt I could get 6Gbps in my living room... And what unofficial partner are you talking about? Because Eryxma was your provider... You obviously mistyped the address. swsoft.com is different from sw-soft.com. SWsoft is located at sw-soft.com and sw.ru. I believe the language barrier is creating a lot of problems for you. SWsoft is a provider of software, so no, they wouldn't mention us, why would they? Again, no. Yes, you are very wrong. We haven't provided a backup yet because there are a lot of people in front of you. If everyone that wanted a backup paid $10, we'd certainly focus on their requests more, but I'm not accepting payment for something we're doing as a courtesy. We transferred all the data we could from the VPS servers before they were cut off. It's all on our servers, vp1.gxn.us through vp3.gxn.us. Now I suppose you're speaking of providing backups? Again, we have been, you just need to wait in line like everyone else. Patrick is an employee just like the rest of us. Me? I'm an employee also. The "Inc." means this company is a corporation... that means that everyone is an employee, a board member, and/or a stockholder.

Posted by Micy, 05-05-2004, 03:07 PM
Robert, what a surpsise! My english is reather poor but if I understand your perfect english, poor Patric was owner of Eryxma? So, he owned not just trademark, also domain name and he is still one of the Eryxma's owner? How is possible that "dirty, dirty rat" Ortiz allowe to poor Patric to heave ownership ower Eryxma.com? Conclusion: you worked with "dirty, dirty rat" Ortiz during migration, now we found out that "poor" Patric is a owner of Eryxma, is this is so, then poor Patric is your legal partner in Glexicon, isn't that so, Robert? I posted this: Is it possible that Glexicon is in fact this "insurance" of Patric LaCrosse and Robert Hinojosa? You see, Robert, all those questions came just from one reason: You didn't provide me backup of my VPS acount. Will you give me this backup or maybe instead of this backup owner of the Eryxma will post another interesting photo ? Just asking...

Posted by ActuaryTm, 05-05-2004, 03:15 PM
Believe the above user is referencing an announcement made by Glexicon regarding an SWsoft engineer/consultant managing the VPS issues. The annoucement has been removed/archived from the Glexicon forum (so unfortunately, no reference to such can be given), but was addressed in several threads and posts.

Posted by binaris, 05-05-2004, 03:16 PM
ActuaryTm, We will have clients that were on PS2 back online by the 8th. I'll also admit my mistakes when pointed out... as far as the reputation of the company, I made a mistake getting involved with Eryxma again. A big mistake. But that doesn't mean I drop Glexicon and start something new... wouldn't that be another "suspicious" thing to do? I'd rather stick it out and clean up this mess, then people will see we have a bit more endurance than most of the people in this industry, who are quick to pack their bags and run away from responsibility. I have disclosed every bit of information I could, within a reasonable amount of time. If I don't mention something it's because I honestly don't know. I'll do my best to find out though, just like I'm trying to figure out where Josuee has this new ModernBill installation setup for the specific purpose of ripping everyone off. I apologize for you not yet recieving a response to your ticket. As you can understand, all of this has got us extremely backlogged, and we'll be addressing each issue as quickly as possible.

Posted by binaris, 05-05-2004, 03:19 PM
Yes, what was said/meant was we were having issues restoring the PSA 5 dump file and an SWsoft engineer wanted permission to enter the server, which is being granted. And yes, we have moved all of the Eryxma-related threads to a forum visible to moderators, super moderators, and administrators. I have set permissions to prohibit the editing of posts by anyone, so they are 100% intact at the moment.

Posted by loz, 05-05-2004, 03:29 PM
And as an inc you must know that brings certain responsibilities. e.g. you cannot announce an "official acquisition", then decide several weeks later that you would just rather forget about it. Unfortunately your customers cannot forget about it either, because during that period you left them without functioning websites and email. For some of them that meant loss of business and customers. And you cannot say I was not a customer of yours or that you didn't acquire me because if not, what on earth were you doing with my personal data and my website data? Where did you get if from if you didn't acquire it?

Posted by Micy, 05-05-2004, 03:45 PM
Yes? I didn't noticed since may 03. But is it good to know that you are ... working? Why didn't you banned your self, Hinojosa. After all, you posted on forums so much promeses that on the end you must first erased all those post to hide what did you promess. Then you kicked me (and I belive I'm not he only one) out of forum and now you heave a peace on your forum? I heave copy of all my tickets from your so called "suport center". Shall I posted them here that we cann see this "rude" attitude? Come on, Robert, I just asked you, fe: "I cann not check status of my ticket, obviesly backup request is not priority to you, so when cann I expect answer from your side and backup of my datas? " Question from jour customer is now a garbage and I suppose my question is an example of "rude via ticket"? Also I DIDN'T SEND ANY E-MAILS TO YOU OR TO POOR PATRIC BEFORE YOU KICKED ME OUT OF YOUR FORUM, Robert! I sended E-mail to Patric Lacrosse on may 03 and you're lieng posting here that I was kicked out of forum because i was "being rude" via email. I was kicked out of your forum BEFORE I wrote my mail to Patric! Tell me, is it possible that you read my PM? Nice, Robert, but I heave also copies of all my PMs with your stuff and I'm sure that i cann post this: i didn't done nothing wrong or offensive. But you read my PM with some other members, it's obviesly, my dear Robert. But be sure, I heave also those copies. Sorry, Robert, but if anybody is here "rude" that was just you: you kicked me out of forum simply because you do not allowed this question: WHEN WILL I GET BACKUP OF MY VPS ACCOUNT? Good night, Robert... Heave a nice day posting here how succesful you providing VPS backup... Mine is not among them, you never intend to give me VPS backup and that's the truth. Isn't it?

Posted by binaris, 05-05-2004, 04:19 PM
Glexicon Communications, Inc. was formed after the "acquisition" was cancelled. And as said before, almost everyone is and has been online. The most vocal here on WHT and our forums are the ones whose sites are down, and it's only a select few. I'm not belittling your reasoning, but realize that you're one of a small grounp that, unfortunately, did not transfer properly. Regardless of what's been assumed in this thread many times, none of the former Eryxma clients are Glexicon clients unless they signup. Until they signup, we cannot guarantee an expedious reply or the proper functioning of their accounts. We are however, still working to get these accounts back online if need be. For those existing Glexicon clients that had accounts with Eryxma too, we'll move their Eryxma data onto their Glexicon accounts.

Posted by binaris, 05-05-2004, 04:44 PM
At the time that mailing was sent, it was accurate and explained the plan of action. That obviously changed drastically and abruptly. If it were possible to "unsend" it, I would have. I seriously doubt any of that. Josuee's always bragged about having "connections" but I've never seen any proof of it. Regardless, we're one of EV1's larger clients at the moment, and I think we have a little more pull than a thief. I am over 18, and I no longer attend high school. However I did go to New Caney HS, you can call and see if they can confirm that information at (281) 354-3505. Don't expect to get much information, if any, though. State law strictly prohibits the release of any past or present student information except to a students legal guardians or the student (if over 18). I've never been friends with anyone in that "group" except for Josuee. Patrick nor I were ever part of Josuee's little posse, lol. About the PO box... if I had the capital to immediately move into a office building, there would have been no need to do that. But seeing as few VC firms are willing to invest in this industry, I obviously have to start from my office here at home (FYI: my home, I don't live with my parents). While even hosts that seem pretty big still operate out of a home office, this summer we do plan on getting an office, and will post it's street address for everyone to see. Meanwhile, I believe we'll get a box with UPS instead of USPS, and not in Porter.

Posted by loz, 05-05-2004, 04:57 PM
Excuse me? According to your own website Glexicon was incorporated on 19th April The "acquisition" was terminated on the 23rd April

Posted by torrents, 05-05-2004, 05:12 PM
But.. you can't just acquire my data!! I don't care if someone gave it to you. If you did buy-out the business, that is one thing. But otherwise you stole my data without my permission. Maybe you should have sent out a release for people to return that authorized you to host their data or even touch it.

Posted by binaris, 05-05-2004, 05:13 PM
Sorry... the paperwork was filed on the 19th, approved shortly thereafter, and then sent back on the 1st of May for receipt on the 2nd. Regardless of the technicalities, Glexicon Communications, Inc. never entered into any agreement with Josuee Ortiz. For those that want to know, I just got off the phone with the local authorities and Josuee lives in the small portion of Kingwood that is in Montgomery County, and is therefore not in the jurisdiction of any agencies in Harris County or the City of Houston. http://www.co.montgomery.tx.us/

Posted by binaris, 05-05-2004, 05:16 PM
You entered into an agreement with Eryxma when you signed up that allowed that to happen, I believe it was covered in the TOS and/or AUP.

Posted by loz, 05-05-2004, 05:18 PM
Which one is it?

Posted by binaris, 05-05-2004, 05:21 PM
216.180.224.122/32 - GNAX (Atlanta, GA) 67.15.96.0/24 - EV1 (Houston, TX) We just had the last server cancelled at TP, though. They still continue to charge our card, even though that request was made on the 2nd. Not a good time for webhosts lately, is it? Last edited by binaris; 05-05-2004 at 05:25 PM.

Posted by loz, 05-05-2004, 05:22 PM
If I am just "one of a small group" How come you are having so many problems?

Posted by torrents, 05-05-2004, 05:23 PM
In case you don't have your own copy... This document will become effective when filed by the secretary of state. Filling #: 800331401 04/19/2004

Posted by ActuaryTm, 05-05-2004, 05:23 PM
Robert, these are precisely the kinds of pieces of misinformation a number of us are referring to, and that concern us a great deal. It certainly makes me very leery to believe other portions of what are offered as truth, and even more leery to trust. Unfortunately, more is expected of a CEO and President of a corporation. We can all understand making technical mistakes or the encountering of difficulties, but mistakes with the truth are much more disheartening. Last edited by ActuaryTm; 05-05-2004 at 05:28 PM.

Posted by binaris, 05-05-2004, 05:28 PM
I apologize for making such a careless error. It's obvious that everything I say will be scrutinized as closely as possible. Next time I make a post I'll make sure to verify it's integrity. The backlog is due to VPS backup requests, people wanting their domains, people needing their passwords reset, etc. Stop nitpicking, it does absolutely nothing to help anything whatsoever.

Posted by loz, 05-05-2004, 05:33 PM
Unfortunately (for you) there is no such condition in the TOS or AUP - I have a copy

Posted by loz, 05-05-2004, 05:39 PM
My observation was to show again the continual inconsitencies in your posts. One minute you have servers at GNAX, TP and EV1. Then in another post they are just at EV1. Then in the follow up it is just GNAX and EV1, till later you edit it because you realise your own inconsistency in not mentioning TP. I think we will stop nitpicking when you give straight factual consistent answers.

Posted by binaris, 05-05-2004, 05:39 PM
Alright then, would you like me to have yours as well as everyone else's data removed immediately? If that's what it comes down to, you pinning the liability on us, then that's what will be done. I'd rather not erase everyone's accounts, but if you're going to make this a legal issue, that's the only solution. Anyway, I'm getting back to business... I've posted a lot of information for anyone that's interested, and now we're going to split hairs due to a lack of anything better to do. I'm taking a break from spending hours a day on WHT reading and replying to actually see to it things are taken care of. loz, if you honestly have an issue with us having your data on our servers, email me your username and I'll remove it immediately. Anyone else that needs to contact me may find how to do so in my profile. EDIT: Alright loz, I NEVER said that we ONLY had EV1 servers. Those are the servers that former Eryxma clients are on so that was the ONLY one that needed to be mentioned in that post. This is just childish.

Posted by loz, 05-05-2004, 05:42 PM
See Sarbanes-Oxley :-)

Posted by torrents, 05-05-2004, 05:44 PM
I just found this: Can you imagine Josuee in your house!!!!!

Posted by loz, 05-05-2004, 05:45 PM
No, what is childish, is you as the CEO constantly posting inaccurate and inconsistent information about your company.

Posted by mastermal, 05-05-2004, 05:52 PM
... and it goes on, and on, and on. Guys, just why? Poor WHT is losing MBs of database space because of you. Hey, judging by the fact that you love conspiracy theories, here is my own: What if you are Joe? Maybe all you want to do is to ruin Rob, who left your business out of your own stupidity ages ago? Huh? Or maybe you're Wes, trying to protect him? I'm tired of this place... *yawn* Maybe you guys should find some new info in order to reanimate this thread and not bore everyone else. Just my $0.0000002.

Posted by placrosse, 05-05-2004, 05:53 PM
loz, you're a troll, and if we had the time, we would spare no effort in telling you why you are, and exactly why, every time you dare speak to us. Unfortunately we've got work to do, so continue to carry on with your idiocy.

Posted by loz, 05-05-2004, 06:00 PM
We didn't make it a legal issue. You did. We didn't copy anyone's data without their permission. If you acquire the software and client data, then decide to not go ahead you should have also reversed the copying of data at that stage. i.e. deleted all the data you copied. Even if the T&C of Eryxma had allowed you to acquire their client data, you decided to halt the acquisition. So you had no rights to keep the data either way! You cannot have it both ways. Anyway, I thought that your 4th of May dealine implied that any customers who had not registered for a Glexicon account - therby granting you permission to host their data - would have their data and accounts automatically deleted. Haven't you done this yet?

Posted by loz, 05-05-2004, 06:01 PM
OK Patrick, lets call it quits. And no sarcastic remarks this time.

Posted by Mad_Martigan, 05-05-2004, 06:15 PM
Ah, this is the case I was talking about. I did not intend to discourage any case against the fraudulent billing... (it just seems to me that one might be easier to pursue - at least from my POV......) :|

Posted by Mad_Martigan, 05-05-2004, 06:17 PM
Will you let us know if there is anything we can send to your bank to assist in their investigation? Perhaps you could give them the Glexicon contact information...? (Robert said he would cooperate with investigations brought to his attention...)

Posted by capnqwest, 05-05-2004, 06:29 PM
As soon as they tell me what if anything they've found. They're probably going after the bank that is trying to get the funds to see who is on the other end initiating them. They're still coming in as "Eryxma Networks" but instead of once a day like they were at the beginning, it's up to 15 times a day. And Christian, why are you so eager to defend Eryxma? Especially after what Joe did to you? Last edited by capnqwest; 05-05-2004 at 06:32 PM.

Posted by mastermal, 05-05-2004, 06:45 PM
Nice to see you again, capnqwest. Joe did a hell of a lot of things to me, but I'm not defending him. Maybe I didn't state this clear enough, but especially after his recent actions, Joe is, IMHO, the biggest *insert any swear word here* around. And I don't even want to start about Eryxma. The person I am defending is Rob.

Posted by mastermal, 05-05-2004, 06:47 PM
Btw, the newest fraudulent billings are now coming from eryxma@msn.com. Not "Eryxma Networks". Somehow Joe must have gotten himself a new merchant account.

Posted by macella, 05-05-2004, 11:52 PM
Patrick, you renewed my VPS subscription in March for 6-months. 5 months service was left undelivered. Could you check my data backup request ticket? MQR-20643 Last edited by macella; 05-05-2004 at 11:53 PM.

Posted by Micy, 05-06-2004, 01:46 AM
Are you aware that you're insulting your own client? Glexicon gave several times a different "dead lines" for "VPS backup". But Glexicon beat new record ! Some of the sites are still down, since 19. april Glexicon was not able to deliver backup of all VPS accounts. You are not replying on tickets, mine was posted on April 27, the last contact from Glexicon was on may 03... And I belive I'm not the only one without VPS backup and I'm not the only one without contact with your support center? Are you telling me that in 3 days support center was not able to give us information what's going on ? BTW - you didn't provide me any backup of my VPS... What's going on, Patric - cann you give me some answer (I hope I'm asking you very polite) when will I get my VPS account backup? I just wanna know... I know, I'm on some line and I must wait but I sppose you must know how long must I wait... or you do not know? Or must I wait another 10 days to find out that Glexicon will not provide me backup of my site? Last edited by Micy; 05-06-2004 at 01:56 AM.

Posted by torrents, 05-06-2004, 05:34 AM
FYI (and if you think I'm pro-anyone, read my previous posts).. the more I've thought about this and the more lawyer friends I've spoken to.... By giving away your data or info, Eryxma (Joe) probably did violate privacy laws and/or the AUP / TOC. There is probably a good case against Josuee Ortiz and whoever is the DBA on record for Eryxma. (there may be two, Harris Co is Ronald Kendrick.. Montgomery Co may be Guadalupee Milk) also depending on the names on the bank accounts. However, Glexicon receiving this data (under whatever terms) probably technically didn't violate any laws. Glexicon may be actionable under some type of conspiracy / conspiracy to commit fraud /etc. but this is very very hard to prove, especially legally. The public resignation of Patrick and the immediate involvement of Patrick in Glexicon, might show premeditation... maybe conspiracy.. And if you add to this the fact of Patrick coming into possesion of Eryxma domain registration info and DNS, makes a stronger case.

Posted by torrents, 05-06-2004, 07:00 AM
Josuee "Shang" "Sheikron" Ortiz speaks here (so much for making this a new record long thread)... see you over there.

Posted by binaris, 05-06-2004, 07:44 AM
That is true. After contacting the Harris County DA and the Houston Police Department, it was confirmed that although almost all of Kingwood TX is in Harris County and is an annex of the City of Houston, Josuee lives in a small portion that is actually in Montgomery County. Montgomery County Links: http://www.co.montgomery.tx.us/da/index.shtml http://www.mocosheriff.com/ http://www.mcoem.org/cojudge/ Texas Department of Criminal Justice Victim Services Division: http://www.tdcj.state.tx.us/victim/victim-home.htm

Posted by torrents, 05-06-2004, 07:53 AM
May also help to fill out this form: http://www.oag.state.tx.us/consumer/complain.shtml You may still fill out the complaint on-line, and then send copies (please do NOT send us your originals!) of your documents along with a print-out of your filled out complaint form to: Office of the Attorney General Consumer Protection Division PO Box 12548 Austin, TX 78711-2548

Posted by nova9, 05-06-2004, 08:28 AM
YES! Several people asked you to remove their data from your servers, but they still can access their "accounts". You deleted many posts in your forums, many of them requesting for that action. DO delete the data (personal, billing, web) finally!

Posted by Micy, 05-06-2004, 08:34 AM
And give us backup ... finally!

Posted by MCHost-Marc, 05-06-2004, 10:35 AM
Read the following thread and with a little bit of thinking, it'll help you figure out the truth: http://www.webhostingtalk.com/showth...threadid=22117

Posted by mastermal, 05-06-2004, 01:22 PM
Sigh. Now how many people have posted a link to this already??!?

Posted by nova9, 05-06-2004, 01:52 PM
Well, since nobody mentioned your name again, considering that previously you accepted my "sod off" suggestion and finally you mentioning that you don't like this place and all these things we bad people say about your friends, I'm VERY curious why you are sticking here, making useless remarks. People can post this link (among others) as many times as they wish, until the matter is fully resolved. You don't pay for the "megabytes of the WHT database" and this database is not consuming your CPU cycles. Do you realize what "Rob" is saying here: --- No Shang at OdiSee... Shang's rumored company, Glexicon, is no more... when I found out what he had done, I suspended his account and terminated the Glexicon team. I've now deleted the account all together and will re-open it when a REAL Web site is completed (Glexicon will now be Glexicon Web Services and will be an OdiSee company). Ask Kiwi for verification of the account deletion if you wish... Also: OdiSee never registered GLEXICON.COM, and the information provided is completely false. If for some reason you'd like to contact OdiSee Corporation, you may do so. <> I'll tell you straight... I'm pissed. Don't worry about Shang having anything to do with Glexicon, I won't allow it after he's damaged the reputation the OdiSee staff has worked hard for. I will warn you now - he may start another hosting company. Beware... <> I don't understand what any of this has to do with Odisee, but all the info and links aren't needed. <> Robert Hinojosa President & CEO OdiSee Corporation 10-02-2001 --- Do you? The 16 year old "president and CEO" of a non-existent, non-registered company, says (among others) that Ortiz is a bad boy and he wouldn't do business with him. One year later, he was "helping" Ortiz with Eryxma, posting in Eryxma's forums and... YES, at the SAME TIME under Eryxma's logo "Eryxma is a subsidiary of Odisee corporation" was written. Want me to continue? Grow up. I know, it takes time.

Posted by antonbrk, 05-06-2004, 01:57 PM
Shang/Shiekron took off with all the eryxma money that was left (mine included). Several eryxma employees jumped ship in the months preceding eryxma's fall (Robert, Patrick, etc). They jumped because they could not stomach what was going on there. No illegality had yet taken place when they left, but the writing was on the wall. Robert had control of Glexicon name, started his own company with it in October 2003, and has nothing whatsoever to do with Shang/Shiekron, and has expressed his willingness to cooperate with authorities should they investigate Shang/Shiekron. Patrick was one of reasons eryxma was working as well as it was, and Robert is now lucky to have him aboard at Glexicon. Glexicon is almost fully up and running after spending three weeks trying to rescue accounts from eryxma. If you have carefully read all the posts here and at Glexicon you would likely conclude as I have that Robert and others there are legitimate and doing there best to turn the eryxma disaster to everyone's best advantage--including Robert too, naturally--if indeed Shang/Sheikron has eryxma money and Robert has none of it, as he has repeatedly stated, then he has gambled his own money by putting up the so many former eryxma accounts on servers HE is paying for and hoping many will stay with Glexicon afterward. I hope they do. I have been really skeptical and occasionally hysterical here about the whole process, but I currently feel Glexicon is probably legit and sufficiently disconnected from Shang/Sheikron that they are worth trusting to see if they will be able to continue the terrific cost/benefit ratio eryxma was known for (before the service crumbled and sheikron stopped paying his server fees then started fraudulently billing his customers, and then took off). Continuing conspiracy theorists here at WHT need to calm down and put up a website where information can be shared, if more than a few out there still believe that Robert and Shang/Shiekron are still in cohoots. The only thing I remain paranoid about is the Glexicon employee, Mike's frequent use of "heh" in his posts, which is what Shang/Sheikron used to do. But until someone gives me a little more to go on than THAT odd coincidence, I must, for now, give up my paranoia that Shang/Sheikron might be involved in Glexicon, and get on with my life. It does not appear that he is. If so, then Glexicon wont last long because it would appear the guy is going to be sued and possibly even arrested for fraud. So I REALLY doubt Robert and Patrick are stupid enough to have anything whatsoever to do with him. He may be, of course, but current probabiliies are against the notion.

Posted by mastermal, 05-06-2004, 02:25 PM
nova9, do you honestly expect a comment on this? Why do you feel spoken to anyway? I have a suggestion... Why don't you sod off for once?

Posted by antonbrk, 05-06-2004, 03:31 PM
This quote is from 2001? What damage is Robert referring to here?

Posted by binaris, 05-06-2004, 04:22 PM
Marc, I was pretty sure you were never coming back to WHT... Did you come back to try to get rid of competition? Anyway, please don't come in and post links that have nothing to do with what's currently going on.

Posted by binaris, 05-06-2004, 04:24 PM
Another bit of interesting information: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...ME:B:EOAB:US:6 http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...DME:B:EOT:US:3 http://forums.glexicon.com/showthrea...=3811#post3811

Posted by ActuaryTm, 05-06-2004, 04:42 PM
Must admit I am somewhat confused. Does the above quotation read "I will not be active on WHT until further notice. Clients may visit our forums for more information." to anyone else, or are my elderly eyes just deceiving me?

Posted by antonbrk, 05-06-2004, 05:08 PM
Robert did some detective work of his own and noticed Sheikron buying things at eBay. So he posted it in his own forums. You can't blame him for finding some of the conspiracy stuff he sees here at WHT too much to avoid responding too, despite his decision last week to try to avoid further postings here, in that they seemed to him pointless to reply to. But any facts anyone drums up that do cast doubt on Glexicon's claims that 1) Sheikron is out of the picture for good at Glexicon, and 2) and that they had nothing whatsoever to do with his criminal conduct (false billing, failing to pay eryxma's server fees, etc), would obviously continue to be welcomed by everyone (because they inform upcoming decisions to stay or not stay at Glexicon after the move).

Posted by binaris, 05-06-2004, 05:47 PM
I'm sure you'll want to hear it from whoever else will confirm it, but I'll go ahead and say: 1. Josuee is definitely not going to be involved with Glexicon. 2. Nobody at Glexicon was involved with his criminal activity. The only one involved with him when he commited credit card fraud, etc. was Patrick. As Patrick has stated before though, he knew nothing about it and was told by Josuee that there was a "billing error" because of a "bug with crontab". FYI: ActuaryTm and anyone else that was on PS2... we've got the bugs worked out so far with the PSA BU's and should be complete as scheduled or earlier. And yes, I take back the statement that I'd be absent from WHT for a while.

Posted by nova9, 05-06-2004, 06:05 PM
1) No, I don't expect useless comments. 2) Because it's interesting to see why you are hijacking threads to defend the undefendable. 3) Because I was not in any way involved with criminals, knowingly hiding their real identity. I can prove it. You can't. Rinse. Repeat.

Posted by w0rn, 05-06-2004, 06:49 PM
You know the biggest cause for all of us against Eryxma and it's officers is the fact that we lost service AND Jousee (and any other Eryxma officer) embezzled money from us for our services that we entrusted the company and its officers with. Loss of revenue due to the MAJOR site outage and NO notification. Glexicon knew months before the loss of service. 1- Robert begins posting at WHT regarding Glexicon in October 2003 2- The 3-day notice (I never got one) of the "acquistion" and the end of Eryxma Here is a document to help determine YOUR loss of revenue and the FBI procedure to escalate this incident: http://www.cert.org/tech_tips/FBI_in...tes_crime.html An example of the FBI investigating cases based on loss of revenue for a Web site being down: http://www.wired.com/news/business/0,1367,34221,00.html Jousee (and any other officer of Eryxma) is definitely guilty of embezzlement. http://www.nvo.com/beaulier/whitecollarcrime/ As we report these activities to the FBI, please use this terminology.

Posted by nzych, 05-06-2004, 10:08 PM
ROBERT HINOJOSA of GLEXICON - PLEASE CALL ME ASAP. YOU HAVE MY DETAILS (AND MORE THAT I WANT BACK). NATHAN

Posted by Micy, 05-06-2004, 10:45 PM
You blaming Ortiz and Eryxma for fraud... But in my case - fraud took place AFTER your Patric stole control over Eryxma (to insure his "share"), you "migrated" our data without any previuous agremenet between Glexicon and customers, now you're abusing costumers right to access those data... AFTER Patric LaCrosse stole control ower Eryxma I didn't get what I payed. My site is down since april 19, until now you didn't deliver any backup of my site. In fact - Glexicon broke my contract with Eryxma and since april 19 2004 you violate my customer's rights. Glexicon has my data without mine permission or maybe - in worst case - you erased my data without mine permission. And still you claime that you're not invloved in fraud, continuing so called "business" with person invloved in Cyberwings fraud, with person wich stole control ower Eryxma and decided to "migrate" our sites on another company and after all - with person wich name in on our bills?

Posted by placrosse, 05-07-2004, 05:04 AM
*gasp* with such damning testimony, I'd better go into hiding.

Posted by Micy, 05-07-2004, 07:01 AM
Problem is that you cann not hide who are you, Patric. You, Hinojosa and Ortiz are just children, playing with serious business, posting lies, occasional you take a part in some fraud ... After all, you made a great progress: from Cyberwings and Eryxma to Glexicon... In fact, isn't this truth, Patric, because of your history you are not able to find decent job anywhere, you are condemned to participate in "companies" with bad reputation, working togather with imposters, loaning your name to imposters etc... I feel sorry for you, Patric... It's not coincidence that you found a job only in Eryxma... Who else is willing to give a job a person involved in such fraud as Cyberwings was. Just person invloved in fraud in Tacidblue.

Posted by placrosse, 05-07-2004, 07:43 AM
Truly, you have a dizzying intellect.

Posted by mastermal, 05-07-2004, 07:54 AM
@nova9: I accept and fully understand your statement, and all of those before. Still, I am struggling to get to see your exact point, but I really do not want this to become personal, so expect this to be my last comment. Why is it that you think that just negative comments on Glexicon are good comments? I suppose if anybody who had their VPS successfully backed up (yes, there are quite some already) posted here, you’d call him a liar or whatever else straight away? Almost everybody in here is talking some sort of position. So why am I not allowed to take up one that’s defending Glexicon? I have decided that it is probably not the best anyway to waste my time trying to comment on things some people have written here, even though my brain overheats just reading them. So, if you so wish, I will once and for all stop giving my opinion on this topic here. It is just an opinion, like yours, just maybe a little inclined to a different direction. But enough of that. Okay? On an unrelated note, rest assured that I will never, ever work in the webhosting business. Ever. Yes, I have volunteered at Eryxma (mind you, I have "grown up" quite a bit since then) and I am in fact volunteering at Glexicon right now, because they needed help with those gargantuan amounts of backups that need to be taken care of. Maybe I'll help them out in the future as well. BUT... ... once I'm out of university, I will hopefully never have to touch a web server again (not counting my personal website, perhaps). Quite a while after leaving Eryxma (which was, btw, over 14 months ago, and at that time there was no criminal activity going on that i knew of - after all, I wasn't even a "full" member of staff), I have realized that spending my life behind a computer doing IT stuff isn't really what I want to achieve. Plus, the hostility of many people in this business has scared me quite a bit anyway. Especially on WHT, that is. (Not you, nova9, I'm talking about it in general) This is the main reason why I doubt my involvement with Eryxma/Glexicon will ever do me any harm and why I don’t care if my name is “blackened” in the industry. (apart from all I have said above) But I guess I must be boring everyone around here anyway. Besides, most of this is seriously off topic. Let me just express my deepest sympathy to everybody affected by this Eryxma disaster. I know what it feels like, I have been burned by a host myself quite recently. Luckily enough, I make monthly complete backups and incremential backups twice a week, so I didn’t lose a single file – my suggestion is that you do that with your next host, whichever it may be. Have an amazing day – right now the sun is shining through my windows. Made me think about just how much I love summer.

Posted by Micy, 05-07-2004, 08:58 AM
Oh, Patric, it's true, isn't it: your level are "companies" such as Cyberwings, Eryxma and Glexicon. You sure knows that no decent company will pick you, Patric What cann you put in your CC: I worked with Sawn White, currently in federal prison, I worked for Josuee Ortiz knowing that he's using a false name to cover connection with previous fraud, then I stole his company and erased my clients data. Jesus, Patric, you are not able to move datas from one to another server, so if my intellect is "dizzying" what is the corect world to describe your knowledge and skills: maybe "well qualified for disaster" ? After all, you do not heave any choice, because if you sleep with the dogs you will wake up with the fleas.

Posted by TomTech, 05-07-2004, 09:20 PM
I would have posted this to Glexicons Forums...but they seem to be down. Still looking for the Auth Code for MediaArt.us for Registrant Transfer. In case it might help, I found the following info about how the Registrant can obtain the Auth Code....in case you have that capability. Sponsoring registrars can obtain the auth code for their sponsored domains by sending an EPP command to the registry. Registrars are only able to obtain auth codes for the domain names they sponsor.

Posted by ActuaryTm, 05-09-2004, 06:00 AM
Just FYI : returned from a business trip to find the promised May 8th deadline made by Glexicon regarding PS2 data availability has now come and passed. Data has officially been offline now for over 26 days. I truly wish I could say I am surprised or shocked; however, I am not.

Posted by macella, 05-10-2004, 11:04 PM
Finally I got my VPS backup. That is the first good thing that happened after all this mess with Eryxma. I lost 5 month subsription, my server was down for several days, my current share hosting plan is not bad, but I am missing some VPS features. But thanks God I have my forum back. Good luck guys (and personally Mica, who was too upset with all this story).

Posted by Micy, 05-11-2004, 12:03 AM
Well, I cann be upset since I didn't get VPS backup back. Good luck also too you, marcella. We both heave our forums back. I re-open forum - without any previous data on it. I told visitors what's happened and we start from zero. In few days I'm going start main page. From zero. my site will survive, but this time on honest and reliable hosting company.

Posted by macella, 05-11-2004, 12:16 AM
May be they still be able to restore yours data too. I submitted ticket on Apr,27, and only today I got it resolved.

Posted by Micy, 05-11-2004, 12:28 AM
No, they will not. Glexicon decided to start that migration togather with old frend Ortiz and because they choose the wrong guy my data are lost. Glexicon claim on april 19 that all VPS data are being transfered, after all this was just one of the lies. They lost data (not just mine) during transfer.

Posted by guntersammet, 05-14-2004, 03:08 AM
I just checked my credit card statement and I have been billed again on May-10. My Credit Card company can't cut off the charges because it's preauthorized. So I have to go through all the pain and solve this through lots of paperwork. The fraud department told me that not even cancelling the card would help since the charge would automatically go to the new card. This starts to become very very annoying :-(. Just thought I'll let you know so that you can watch your statement. Gunter G.

Posted by Micy, 05-14-2004, 03:26 AM
I have similar problem here. But I told my bank that Eryxma didn't deliver any service and that's why I'm asking now money refund for all bills sended to me in March and April. I report also abuse of my credit card (because sending several bills without delivering service is for me credit card abuse). Your bank cann not charge you for bills that you refuse to pay, also you heave right to ask money refund for payed bills if service / product was not deliver to you.

Posted by guntersammet, 05-14-2004, 03:55 AM
I were thinking the same. I wrote them a nice letter. I'm pretty sure that they will refund me the additional charges but they explained me in length that because it's preauthorized, they can't do anything and I would have to go to small claims court to get my money back. I'll try to keep you posted how it turns out. G.

Posted by Micy, 05-14-2004, 05:47 AM
preauthorized or not - we were billed twice (or even more), service was not delivered and you have right to money refund. if your bank is not helping to you maybe it's time to choose bank that is able to protect your interest.

Posted by ActuaryTm, 05-16-2004, 01:39 PM
Would post this in the Glexicon forum, but it has been down/offline for at least the past seven hours (perhaps longer, have not been monitoring it closely). The original May 8th deadline regarding PS2 data backups passed more than 8 days ago. PS2 data has been offline for over 35 days. No response to ticket # VQM-60928 which was submitted on April 30th (16 days ago). No additional information provided by Glexicon via email, nor on the Glexicon forum (aside from a vague response Robert posted quoting a SWSoft representative) at any point last week (although I cannot check today as the forum is non-functional, as mentioned prior). Is anything even remotely productive being persued to address this situation?

Posted by pegator, 05-16-2004, 01:51 PM
I asked my bank to refund the money, and they said that I have to wrote a letter explaining what had happened and why I want my money back. They told me that the letter has to be in english, so they later would send the letter to an american bank suppose (I'm from Spain). Have anyone typed a similar letter that can publish here so I can do my letter similiar to it? The reason is that my english isn't so good so I won't want to send a letter with semantic faults. regards

Posted by Micy, 05-16-2004, 04:37 PM
Why do you worry about english? Just print all anouncement from Glexicon and add on the end ... Well, send me e-mail and i will give you one address of a site that I belive you must read it. My e-mail is serbb@email.si

Posted by antonbrk, 05-16-2004, 08:24 PM
If you post a draft copy here, I will gladly help re-write it and post the corrected copy here. Perhaps others who do not speak English as a first language, but who were also victims of Eryxma fraud, could also make good use of the letter.

Posted by Micy, 05-16-2004, 11:48 PM
Good idea! BUT foreign banks claiming that they need letter in english o send it "to an american bank " are talking nonsense. First, they didn't ask any english when they opened account and sign agreemenet with customer, second, it is their obligation to protect interest of own client, so comunication between banks is their problem, not customer's problem. Finnaly, bank also didn't give you all information. If you payed something and product / service was not delivered to you you heva 30 - 45 days to ask your money back. All on-line transfer between banks must be insured, so it isn't your problem how will bank get this money back (from other bank, from some company or from insurance). Because you are defrauded vicitim you must go to local police departement and explain there what's happaned. Also, you must go to local US Embassy and send them complain. In this case you'll need letter in english because comunication between you and Embassy will be in english.

Posted by binaris, 05-21-2004, 12:38 AM
Just something for everyone to peruse: http://www.livejournal.com/~aeoliscams/

Posted by Informant, 05-21-2004, 02:12 PM
While I appreciate you establishing my identity as seperate, posting my livejournal to the general (and conspirating) public wasn't what I had in mind, Robert. It also seems that Joe or someone else already used my email address to post muck so I guess I'll just have to use the account that has already been associated with my email address. I, Wes, am a completely seperate and, now, independent person of both Eryxma and Glexicon. While I was "friends" with Joe in the past I was taken advantage of no differently than his clients and thus I don't speak to him anymore. But, during the time I was friends with Josuee I did manage to get just about the whole story first hand, free of businesses to run, conspiracies to ponder, or mudthrowing for show. In that light, and considering the fact that I still have the domains shiekron.com and shiekron.org from when Joe attempted to lauch a business using the names - I have decided to give my own recollections. An "E! True Online Story" so to speak, and although the interest seems to be fading by the day to catch Joe in his criminal act, if my schedule allows I could coordinate a forum or such so that Glexicon's (and WHT's) forums do not have to be as sullied with this anymore. While the site is still more or less an idea than a reality - as soon as I secure hosting (which, for obvious reasons, will have to be somewhere independent of the situation) I'll give it a shot. In the meanwhile, you can contact me personally at my email address, wesman20*at*hotmail*dot*com or on AIM at LaCasaWes. More often than not I am not at my computer so if you don't get a response via AIM it's typical. Thanks. (By the way - the La Casa Technologies DBA belongs to me and the address of it's owner is my address. The business address, however, is Joe's because I was going to work with him on the project, which was simply an on-site PC repair business. The business "La Casa Communications" however, belongs to Joe - so heads up.) -- Westley Trevino La Casa Technologies, lacasatech.com / la-casa.us The Shiekron Files, shiekron.com / shiekron.org

Posted by ActuaryTm, 05-23-2004, 04:02 PM
As the thread originally began on the Glexicon forum here was seized by the staff, locked from further user updates, and moved to another forum (maintenance), I thought the beared mentioning:According to Robert, the paying clients are being attended to, and this is the reason the PS2 data is not yet available. Following this logic (or lack thereof), if a former Eryxma client hosted on the PS2 node were to pay Glexicon, would this result in the PS2 data being recovered faster? Am a bit confused. All the comments in the above referenced thread since said thread was locked seem to indicate there are several conflicts, errors, unforeseen problems, etc. that have caused several missed deadlines and have thus far prevented the restore from completing successfully. Have noted in the Glexicon forum that several former Eryxma clients whose data resided on the PS2 server have offered payment for the data recovery, or have even paid Glexicon for hosting services in hopes of the data being extracted. Though it is somewhat supposition, would say by and large if in fact any of those individuals formerly on PS2 have paid Glexicon are not receiving those services for their payments. Or have these former PS2 clients in fact received their data backups? Again, confused somewhat. In the thread dated today, Robert has offered yet another promise that "PS2 data will be available this week. DNS and other information will be announced tomorrow." After nearly 40 days of PS2 data being completely offline, there are several questions one should ask oneself regarding this sitation: what (if any) compensation should Glexicon receive for these efforts? More importantly, how have these events influenced decisions regarding the possibility of enlisting Glexicon as a host, present or future?

Posted by binaris, 05-23-2004, 11:03 PM
I apologize for posting that link without your permission. The information contained therein, however, is of much interest and provides some insight into just what kind of person Josuee is... a master at gaining your trust just to use you as a tool later on, among other things. Anyway, I think we're all looking forward to the Shiekron Files. We had neither the resources nor the prerequisite hardware/software to restore the data as we had recieved it. We have not accepted payment for that exact reason: we wouldn't be able to provide the data in a timely manner. We have not and will not accept compensation for the retrieval of data or the restoration of service. That's up to the potential customer. However, it shouldn't influence any decision in choosing us as a host at all, IMO. We're not talking about Glexicon clients' sites being down for 40 days and the data being inaccessible; Eryxma went out of business and we're attempting to provide a courtesy. If it's not appreciated, then by all means let us know and we'll focus on other matters.

Posted by ActuaryTm, 05-24-2004, 07:36 AM
I believe in honesty, Robert - even to the point of brutality, if necessary. If one were being brutally honest here, one would have to conceed that the courtesy spoken of was an attempt to absorb clients from Eryxma now without a host. There is nothing wrong with this action, of course; in fact, in theory, it should be commended. But there should be no mistake made regarding the motivation. Believe if you are honest with no one else but yourself, you should readily admit that. What was it Polonius said? "This is above all - to thine own self be true”. As a potential Glexicon client, I've personally used these past few weeks as a trial period to examine how Glexicon deals with technical issues, troubleshooting, and client (at least, potential client) interaction - specifically in regards to customer service relations. In fact, the latter most important of all. Last edited by ActuaryTm; 05-24-2004 at 07:42 AM.

Posted by guntersammet, 05-24-2004, 12:09 PM
Snip out of an Email from April-16-2004 sent from Robert Hinojosa: <snip> Effective immediately, Glexicon Communications has officially acquired the assets of Eryxma Hosting, and is in the process of transferring all client data to an exclusive colocation facility in Houston, Texas. Clients located on existing Glexicon Communications servers will remain on these servers until 20 April 2004. All data will remain intact during the course of this migration and further, more detailed information will be distributed to current clients of Glexicon Communications and Eryxma Hosting regarding changes to addressing, procedures, and members of staff. </snip> Robert, looks like you changed your statement on what you did for (to) former Eryxma clients a couple of times in the last 5 weeks.

Posted by binaris, 05-24-2004, 04:36 PM
Obviously... when it seems as if Josuee was cooperating and doing the right thing, he just ended up trying to screw over Eryxma clients, Glexicon Communications, and myself personally. Would you want to continue the acquisition of a company whose owner continues (as recently as the 13th of this month) to charge clients he no longer provides services to (since his servers were disconnected for non-payment)? So yes, of course. It was announced that that deal was over and we no longer had *anything* to do with him or any of his "companies". That would usually be a good thing to do, but as we're obviously extremely backlogged with cleaning up the mess left behind, our responsiveness will obviously be a bit lacking until next month.

Posted by PCTrauma, 05-24-2004, 04:43 PM
I'm kind of tired of all of this. For those of us whose data was transferred and who have opened up a Glexicon Account, we are back up and running. It's sad Josuee was caught doing a billing run and the acquisition of the data was halted. I was lucky that my data had already been copied. It wasn't all in the right place or set up correctly, but at least I can say that it was somewhere, we found it, and put it back together. I don't see any problem with Robert changing his statements. The circumstances were changing from day to day. It was a courtesy that Robert even kept us as informed as he did. Everyone at Glexicon was hard at work trying to get data copied over and sites working. I run a business and know how distracting it can be to have to stop and answer questions; especially when the questions are being asked by people who are not informed at all. Can any of you actually say that they have read all of the posts in this thread? What would this forum and this thread be like if Robert hadn't have stepped in and offered to get the data from the Eryxma servers before they were shut down? What would this forum and thread be like if Josuee just let it go away, and then he went away. Running one day, gone the next, and never to be recovered. It's not like the Eryxma servers were going to be taken over by anyone. I didn't see any other companies jumping in to save everything. Josuee was just going to walk away from Eryxma and let the servers be shut down.

Posted by binaris, 05-24-2004, 04:51 PM
ActuaryTm, Eryxma's PS2 data is online at PS3.GXN.US: http://forums.glexicon.com/showthrea...8&page=4&pp=10

Posted by ActuaryTm, 05-24-2004, 06:41 PM
Login to PS3 was successful via the control panel, and via FTP. Does not appear mailboxes were transferred and/or restored (unless am completely off base, which is certainly possible). Perhaps the mailboxes are indeed there, but am somehow unable to locate them? Am attempting to retrieve mail without modifying present DNS entries with my registrar (as that would result in more client downtime, as mail service is now hosted with another company). Is there a special absolute path to Plesk mail on PS3 I am unaware of? Something that a POP3 client could be pointed to (attempted using just the IP address, to no avail) in order that older messages that existed prior to and/or during the shutdown might be retrieved. Even a backup of all mail messages in some sort of semi-readable format would be acceptable. Submitted a ticket. #LJY-26298.

Posted by N!cklas, 05-25-2004, 04:25 PM
Anyone got a clue how to reach my old emails? I don't want to change DNS again... Any chance through Plesk or some way to reach Horde...?

Posted by binaris, 05-25-2004, 06:46 PM
You should be able to access via IP, using "user@domain.com" to login. I have also made Horde available without having to change your DNS: http://ps3.gxn.us/horde/ Let me know if there are any issues with Horde not running off your individual domains (via our forums, not WHT).

Posted by N!cklas, 05-25-2004, 07:12 PM
No luck... http://forums.glexicon.com/showthread.php?p=4423

Posted by gilbert, 05-25-2004, 07:36 PM
is this just turning into a eryxma bashing thread? ewh umm' yea.. dont know if any have read the post the original partner that was running the whole show where he said he moved and tried to transfer to provide better service to all good luck

Posted by ActuaryTm, 05-25-2004, 07:50 PM
Experiencing the same, N!cklas. The mailbox accounts seem to be intact - just no data within them? Am uncertain. Posted such experiences on the Glexicon forum here.

Posted by binaris, 05-26-2004, 04:41 AM
Those issues are being addressed in our forums, not on WHT. For those seeking to press charges against Josuee Ortiz: Read: http://forums.glexicon.com/showthrea...=4434#post4434

Posted by nova9, 06-04-2004, 06:57 PM
"Technical Support Staff" (http://forums.glexicon.com/member.php?userid=552), in our vocabulary, means something different. Definitely not "volunteer". The backups period ended and you continue to appear as "Staff" (to a potential customer, that means an employee, so the company appears to have more people working there... rhinojosa following the old path again, heh). If the company wants to tell the truth to its customers, ask for a "volunteer" tag.

Posted by ActuaryTm, 06-12-2004, 07:53 PM
For those following these developments or care as to the outcome, I wanted to assure that lack of comments regarding this situation did not in fact mean any resolution was reached. The situation (regarding stored mail) remains as it was some 60 days ago. As for Robert - who will undoubtedly chime in to reiterate that these types of issues are best handled or solved on the Glexicon forum - you might try actually responding to the numerous posts and threads in the Plesk section. Also have two open tickets, neither of which have ever been addressed. As in the past, it seems that posting in this public non-Glexicon forum is the only method by which any attempt at progress regarding the old PS2 node is accomplished, so will continue to view posting here as a viable avenue of communication.

Posted by ChrisBowd, 06-13-2004, 02:50 AM
I got fed up reading through this thread - its depressing! But the post from FHDave inadvertently hits the proverbial nail on the head. A few comments: 1 - One of the most common forms of corporate fraud occurs when a company deliberately or inadvertently incurrs substantial debt and then reorganizes for the sole purpose of avoiding repayment while benefiting from the remaining assets (i.e. equipment, customers etc.). Most often the beneficiary company is one which was formed by an 'insider' specifically for that purpose. 2 - All directors and officers of a company have statutory and fiduciary duties to stockholders but, when a company enters the 'zone of insolvency' (i.e. is unable to pay regular bills or its debts exceed its asset value), their primary fiduciary duty is no longer to shareholders but to creditors. Resignation does not absolve responsibility of an officer/director for alleged breaches of fiduciary duty which ocurred prior to such resignation (i.e. one cannot simply resign 2 days before a company goes bankrupt and claim that one 'was not responsible'). 3 - The US accounting rules (GAAP and GAAS) require service companies to recognize revenues on an 'as served' basis, i.e. if you pay for your hosting annually in advance then the hosting company recognizes 1/12th of that revenue at the end of each month. That means that if you were still owed X months (or even X days) of hosting at the time Eryxma entered the zone of bankruptcy, you were a creditor and Eryxma's officers/directors had a fiduciary duty to you. 4 - In the US (and depending to an extent on the state in which it is incorporated) actios of a company's officers and directors are judged in accordance with the 'fair business judgment rule' which basically states that at all times officers/directors must act as might be expected of reasonable mature businesspeople 5 - The fair business judgment rule and fiduciary duty necessitate that when operating in the zone of insolvency, creditors are adequately informed of a company's true situation and that the directors/officers take real action to either resolve the situation (for example by filing a Chapter 11 reorganization) or to liquidate the company's assets and enable creditors to recover some portion of their debts (Chapter 7). Companies with dubious intents will often try to hide their true situation from creditors because creditors can of course petition for an insolvent company's involuntary Chapter 7 liquidation. 6 - It seems that Eryxma never filed for either Chapter 11 or Chapter 7 nor that it ever informed its customers (many of whom are technically creditors) that it was insolvent, but instead its assets were somehow conveyed to a company owned by a former officer/director. 7 - For that transfer to have occured without the general knowledge of customers or creditors it seems likely that the former officer/director was intimately aware of the continuing situation at Eryxma. 8 - FH Dave says "Unfortunately for some of us, were we know Eryxma was up to sale, we would also like to buy it out too " - the clear implication is that Eryxma had assets which were perceived to be valuable and if so, had those assets been put up for auction at a liquidation sale they may have acquired substantial value which would have enabled creditors to receive some portion of the debts due to them. 9 - In US contract and torts law, any contested transaction where a receiving party receives goods/services for no or minimal consideration may be found to be a fraudulent conveyance or fraudulent conversion and unwound by a court. 10 -If a lawsuit were filed in regard to the above matters, the defendant would probably try to file a motion to dismiss claiming that it was malicious prosection blah blah. My guess is that a court would reject such a motion to dismiss on the basis that there are some pretty serious questions of fact that need to be answered here.

Posted by ChrisBowd, 06-13-2004, 02:59 AM
Final point - Any 3 creditors can petition for a company's involuntary liquidation further to Chapter 7 of the US Bankruptcy Code. Chapter 7 is effective on the day the petition is filed however, the company has 20 days in which to respond to the petition. If the company fails to respond the petition will be automatically granted and a Trustee appointed by the Bankruptcy Court. Any major transactions entered into in the 90-day period immediately prior to the filing of the petition are automatically unwound because histriry says that such transactions may not necessarily have been made in the best interests of creditors.

Posted by ActuaryTm, 06-14-2004, 06:17 AM
It truly is quite depressing, even moreso to experience it first hand. Thank you for the above two responses. A great deal of good information was included.

Posted by ActuaryTm, 06-14-2004, 06:42 AM
Unforunately, even more depressing are some of Glexicon's actions as of late. Am including links below to three threads that were - at one time, at least - available on the Glexicon Client forums. Thanks in part to Opera's caching methods, these threads will now be hosted on my own personal domain and webspace, as they were deleted from the Glexicon forums.Quicker Response Times (Forums)Backup e-mailThread deletionsWill not offer comment on any of the above, as I believe the words, tones, and actions speak for themselves. Personally do not believe in the suppression of information.

Posted by ChrisBowd, 06-14-2004, 06:46 AM
ActuaryTm, Thankfully I was not hit by the Eryxma business - I did just nearly get stung for over $350k by a company in a totally unrelated industry though :-( The above posts are in part the result of over $35k in lawyer's fees :-) That's the reality of US law - unfortunately you have to be wealthy to afford justice and even then walking into a court-room is like walking up to the roulette table at a Las Vegas casino. The sad truth is that if an individual really wants to set about defrauding people then until the amounts get to be excessive there is no economic way to seek retribution. The DAs office will usually refer you to the civil courts and the average attorney will cost $200 - $400 per hour. That's why class-actions are so good (plaintiff's get to split the costs between 5, 10, 50 or more people) and of course why big business hates class-actions :-) Enough of politics this after all is WebHostingTalk!! Best of luck to you and the others as you push through the Eryxma mess. chris

Posted by ChrisBowd, 06-14-2004, 07:27 AM
Well, as an outsider I didn't find your comments either libelous or off-thread. Were I a prospective client browsing Glexicon's forums as part of a pre-order due-diligence, your comments would have alerted me to a company whose attitude toward customers is deplorable. If I follow the: "One last note... the thread which was removed was summarized in the below thread, so as to allow easy viewing of pertinent information, without having to wade through your comments." I would instead receive the 'desired' impression of a hosting company that is incredibly concerned and commited to serving its customers. I would suggest you vote with your feet.

Posted by binaris, 06-17-2004, 01:59 AM
You're speaking like Eryxma was incorporated and was headed by the same people as Glexicon Communications, Inc... I'm not sure what to say to make it much more clearer, but Eryxma and Glexicon are completely different. Josuee is "hiding out" at a friends' house, I believe, whilst we make plans to move all of the clients (which we did not buy) over to a stable platform. There were no transactions and neither business was incorporated, therefore there were no officers, no directors, no "corporate fraud", and no "reorganization". The kid tricked me (personally) into making a deal with him, I caught him stealing former clients' money (on his servers, not ours), we locked him out, and we didn't let him do anymore damage to the clients we did move over. This whole situation has been a nightmare, but I don't get what your point is... people here are constantly speculating and trying to place the blame for this on Glexicon. While it wasn't the smartest thing to do if we planned on being overnight millionaires (having to pocket a few months of an entire rack at EV1 for over 18,000 domains), that's what happened and we're still here, aren't we? If Glexicon were a fraud, don't you think we would have just taken orders and then packed up and left? We're still around, and we're going to fix what's left of the Eryxma "mess". It's going to be rough going for the rest of the year, more than likely, but we're not going anywhere.

Posted by binaris, 06-17-2004, 02:07 AM
And if you read the front page, it notes a 30 day money-back guarantee, and we're honoring that. Even though some who have requested refunds haven't yet been processed, we will be giving their money back. I admit that we're lacking, we know that... that's exactly what's being worked on right now, though.

Posted by ChrisBowd, 06-17-2004, 06:32 AM
You confused me a little by the contradiction between what you say in your response regarding neither business being incorporated and therefore no officers etc. and the "President & CEO" and "Inc." things in your post signature. "Inc." being the abbreviation for "Incorporated" and "CEO" the acronym for Chief Executive Officer" maybe I am not the only person confused. I guess you must have incorporated after the previous events. Seems like you got yourself in to a bit of a hole but at least if you can keep the 18,000 customers there should be a bright future ahead once you get past this year. Best of luck to you. chris

Posted by ActuaryTm, 06-17-2004, 09:44 AM
Cannot speak for anyone else, but I certainly do not cast blame on Glexicon for actions not their own. I do however find Glexicon's policy toward customer service - specifically in regard to customer communication - to be quite horrendous. To quote a recent message I sent earlier to another user, "I do hope for the benefit of the current Glexicon clients that the staff realize in a service based industry, customer service is a necessity. It is a learning curve most of the staff is just reaching the zenith of in their young lives, and as such their skills in this arena will continue to develop and mature as they themselves do."When precisely the same was illustrated and spoken of in the Glexicon forum (see above), it was labeled " rude and unconstructive", "absurd", and the user (at least in my case) was called "childish". Is truth relative, depending upon whom it is bearing such? Am at a sincere loss of understanding on this. Though certainly only my humble opinion, a company that admits mistakes, apologizes for such, and then efforts make certain those mistakes are corrected and the client compensated in a reasonable manner (perhaps not monetarily, of course) is highly regarded in my eyes. Unfortunately, customer relations cannot be sacrificed in the process, however.

Posted by Micy, 06-22-2004, 02:25 AM
Well... it is true... I just saw some of reviews for Glexicon Communications. This one is from Jun 15: Paid for 6 months.. they never setup the account! Simply fraud! Of course, you are completely different... Just ex-partner of Eryxma is now your partner And just accidentally both companies are from Porter, Texas... Otherwise, you are completly different

Posted by BigBison, 06-25-2004, 09:49 PM
Nomination for informative post of the year. Chris, I once had to spend lots of dough (although not that much) on legal action. I found over the course of the next several weeks, several other people contacted me because their attorneys had noticed the situation. Believe it or not, they were willing to pay for the work my attorney had done, in disputing a common business scam on antitrust grounds. His suit was so effective, the whole scam was undone within hours and litigation never occurred. As someone who's been doing lots of VoIP research lately, Glexicon's homepage has a suspiciously familiar look to it. While I'm sure it's the same stock photo that Nortel uses on a certain .pdf, Glexicon/Eryxma (I've been following for weeks. There's no difference I'm buying.) has a history of ripping images. Speaking as someone who's had images ripped, I personally frown on the practice.

Posted by Mad_Martigan, 08-26-2004, 12:35 AM
and Glexicon bites the dust.... They're down and http://www.galaxisweb.com/ is trying to pick up the pieces... Boy am I glad I found a new webhost... Here is Galaxis' take on their new situation: http://www.galaxisweb.com/info/glexicon.php I have serious doubts about Robert and Joe being separate people; or that they actually severed ties. It's very interesting that Glexicon had the same billing address as Eryxma, they were both in texas, and now, both the companies have walked away from their clients. I really wish I knew how to get the authorities involved to prevent at least Joe and Robert from playing these BS games with people's time, money, and work.

Posted by antonbrk, 08-26-2004, 01:46 AM
PLEASE NOTE THE DOMAIN REGISTRATION DATE OF GALAXISWEB.COM. NO COMMENT. domain: galaxisweb.com created: 13-Aug-2004 last-changed: 13-Aug-2004 registration-expiration: 13-Aug-2005 nserver: ns1.theplanet.com 216.234.234.30 nserver: ns2.theplanet.com 12.96.160.115 registrant-firstname: Derek registrant-lastname: Thomas registrant-street1: 5808 S Regal RD registrant-street2: Apt 95 registrant-pcode: 99223 registrant-state: WA registrant-city: Spokane registrant-ccode: US registrant-phone: +1.5094431939 registrant-email: admin-c-firstname: Derek admin-c-lastname: Thomas admin-c-street1: 5808 S Regal RD admin-c-street2: Apt 95 admin-c-pcode: 99223 admin-c-state: WA admin-c-city: Spokane admin-c-ccode: US admin-c-phone: +1.5094431939 admin-c-email: tech-c-firstname: Victor tech-c-lastname: Mircea tech-c-street1: 6030 Oakdale Road tech-c-pcode: 22101 tech-c-state: VA tech-c-city: McLean tech-c-ccode: US tech-c-phone: +1.7032015504 tech-c-email: bill-c-firstname: Victor bill-c-lastname: Mircea bill-c-street1: 6030 Oakdale Road bill-c-pcode: 22101 bill-c-state: VA bill-c-city: McLean bill-c-ccode: US bill-c-phone: +1.7032015504 bill-c-email: % See http://registrar.schlund.info for information about Schlund+Partner AG

Posted by vmircea, 08-26-2004, 02:31 AM
As we said, out first venture was GalaxisOnline.com domain: galaxisonline.com created: 17-Feb-2004 last-changed: 13-Aug-2004 registration-expiration: 17-Feb-2005 nserver: ns1.theplanet.com 216.234.234.30 nserver: ns2.theplanet.com 12.96.160.115 registrant-firstname: Derek registrant-lastname: Thomas registrant-street1: 5808 S Regal RD registrant-street2: Apt 95 registrant-pcode: 99223 registrant-state: WA registrant-city: Spokane registrant-ccode: US registrant-phone: +1.5094431939 registrant-email: derek@ibiz-direct.com admin-c-firstname: Derek admin-c-lastname: Thomas admin-c-street1: 5808 S Regal RD admin-c-street2: Apt 95 admin-c-pcode: 99223 admin-c-state: WA admin-c-city: Spokane admin-c-ccode: US admin-c-phone: +1.5094431939 admin-c-email: derek@ibiz-direct.com tech-c-firstname: Victor tech-c-lastname: Mircea tech-c-street1: 6030 Oakdale Road tech-c-pcode: 22101 tech-c-state: VA tech-c-city: McLean tech-c-ccode: US tech-c-phone: +1.7032015504 tech-c-email: vmircea@tjhsst.edu bill-c-firstname: Victor bill-c-lastname: Mircea bill-c-street1: 6030 Oakdale Road bill-c-pcode: 22101 bill-c-state: VA bill-c-city: McLean bill-c-ccode: US bill-c-phone: +1.7032015504 bill-c-email: vmircea@tjhsst.edu Note the date... the GalaxisWeb.com site is one we just recently made, as we said before, GalaxisOnline.com was our first venture, and that is what we used for a good deal of time, but now when we decided to make a serious attempt in the hosting industry we purchased a separate site... And that is why the galaxisweb site is new, nothing out of the ordinary there...

Posted by antonbrk, 08-26-2004, 04:41 AM
I'm sorry for being so wary. I do see that galaxisweb.com was created to launch the new hosting company, and that the gaming site galaxisonline was created 6 months ago. Its true that is roughly the time eryxma was beginning its fall and glexicon was beginning to initiate a means to keep the ex-eryxma clients afloat, although long before you most recently stepped in on your own clients behalf. I think it is admirable that you took that financial risk to protect your clients. But it may also cause one to be intrigued to know if you were at any time a volunteer or paid employee of eryxma or of glexicon, that is what your connection to those hosting enterprisers was in the past. Again, I apologize for prompting any wrongful insinuations of any sort. It was simply that at first glance the glexcon blurb on your site fell oddly on the ears.

Posted by thejustin, 08-27-2004, 04:26 PM
Why was Galaxis informed about the breach of contract? I contacted The Planet on numerous occasions and they said they couldn't release any information about their clients, even non-paying ones. Fess up. Why is Galaxis so special?

Posted by sunshines, 08-27-2004, 04:41 PM
I do not consider to go with any of the company in anyway connected with eryxma or glexicon, if you do not want to risk another fraud or dissapointment. There are 100s of good ones around. It is better to check for a year if the new company will survive and then go with them, if you really want to.

Posted by AHFBWEB, 08-28-2004, 10:14 AM
you hit the nail on the head.

Posted by Soze, 08-28-2004, 01:08 PM
Victor Mircea told he did some technical work for Glexicon . I guess he had access to some Glexicon things therefore or The Planet considered him to be a Glexicon staff member.



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