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Posted by Muad_Dib, 02-20-2013, 04:13 PM
Hi guys,

strange nobody noticed anything and didn't open a post yet. I see many people opening threads about their host being down, the fact is that it seems like there is one of the biggest DDoS of the history currently in action.

One of the biggest EU operator, OVH, has currently zero network capacity, all traffic is peered: http://weathermap.ovh.net/

Many business lines are currently offline, and there is widespread disorder among the EU sysadmins population.

Anyone got any more info? please share.

Posted by pxlfoo, 02-20-2013, 04:40 PM
Awwwww whaaat?! Damnit! -_- I'm in the process of canceling a dedicated server with another company with plans to switch over to OVH and now this?!

Ugh.... I'm going to keep an eye on it , if they can recover quickly it will give me enough confidence to move forward but otherwise I'm going to have to rethink moving to OVH =/


EDIT
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So a quick search for "OVH DDOS" reveals this is apparently an ongoing issue for them. No wonder their dedicated servers are so cheap.

Posted by Muad_Dib, 02-20-2013, 04:45 PM
It's not only OVH. Many operators, national operators, are hit too. Hetzner, OVH and Caldera are currently experiencing issues.

Posted by Muad_Dib, 02-20-2013, 04:52 PM
Ok it seems like some fiber was cut.

Posted by pxlfoo, 02-20-2013, 04:52 PM
The conspiracy theorist in me can't help but think the Mandiant report released yesterday might have something to do with this.... http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-21515259

Posted by Muad_Dib, 02-20-2013, 04:57 PM
From twitter: OVH say; Frankfurt <> Brussels We have an incident on the link between Frankfurt and Brussels. We investigate.

Posted by F-DNS, 02-20-2013, 05:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Muad_Dib
the fact is that it seems like there is one of the biggest DDoS of the history currently in action.
Where did you get this crap from? It's (just) a big fibre cut west of Frankfurt. OVH, Leaseweb, etc are all telling the sitrep on their NOC/status pages.

Traffic is still getting around, albeit some of it is going the long way via PLIX in Warsaw to AMSIX Amsterdam, but it's no big DDoS or whatever, and OVH are grinning because they have their alternate route via Strasbourg which is coping with some of it.

Posted by pxlfoo, 02-20-2013, 05:10 PM
Aye.. looks like a line issue, phew! this changes everything... Although I still have my suspicions... damn Chinese!

Posted by cd/home, 02-20-2013, 05:17 PM
It would need to be a MASSIVE attack to knock OVH offline look at the size of their network...

People do put some rubbish on the net these days!

Posted by AceMesh, 02-20-2013, 05:21 PM
Nice Title though: " Biggest DDoS Ever - OVH is down - Most of europe is offline "


Posted by streaky, 02-20-2013, 05:24 PM
OVH isn't down, nor has it been down at any point. Every thought maybe their weather map is bugged?

Posted by Muad_Dib, 02-20-2013, 05:28 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by acemesh
Nice Title though: " Biggest DDoS Ever - OVH is down - Most of europe is offline "

the title was there to attract some attention cant blame a bit of sensationalism


we have almost a hundred of dedicated server and most of them where reachable only intermittently.

Posted by F-DNS, 02-20-2013, 05:30 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by acemesh
Nice Title though: " Biggest DDoS Ever - OVH is down - Most of europe is offline "

Needs changing. Hopefully the OP has seen the error of his ways and has already asked the mods to correct his "false drama"

Posted by Techy, 02-20-2013, 05:33 PM
@OP looking for a job in marketing , nice title/attraction.

Posted by F-DNS, 02-20-2013, 05:33 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Muad_Dib
the title was there to attract some attention cant blame a bit of sensationalism
Oh really? I have 4 cellphones set to silent that are vibrating their nuts off (sufficient to cause Tsunami warnings on Lake Windermere) without you cooking up false information "for sensationalism". WHT is supposed to be a source of information, not a hangout for drama queens

Posted by streaky, 02-20-2013, 05:43 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by F-DNS
Oh really? I have 4 cellphones set to silent that are vibrating their nuts off (sufficient to cause Tsunami warnings on Lake Windermere) without you cooking up false information "for sensationalism". WHT is supposed to be a source of information, not a hangout for drama queens
Speaking of drama queens, you need better alerting that's not so much with the false positives...

Posted by F-DNS, 02-20-2013, 05:47 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by streaky
Speaking of drama queens, you need better alerting that's not so much with the false positives...
Our alerting is fine, thanks. It's the end users/customers Googling and finding this thread and taking it as gospel and opening tickets and/or phoning us as a result :wallbang:

Posted by Darthkatzs, 02-20-2013, 05:51 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by F-DNS
Oh really? I have 4 cellphones set to silent that are vibrating their nuts off (sufficient to cause Tsunami warnings on Lake Windermere) without you cooking up false information "for sensationalism". WHT is supposed to be a source of information, not a hangout for drama queens
You are the one that concluded that it was a DDoS and that apparently half of Europe is offline. If not, then you should state your sources. I'm only see large latency issues due to the routing taking a large detour.

Posted by F-DNS, 02-20-2013, 05:53 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Darthkatzs
You are the one that concluded that it was a DDoS and that apparently half of Europe is offline.
Sorry what? Go back and read the OP (and it's author) please.

Posted by Muad_Dib, 02-20-2013, 05:53 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by F-DNS
Needs changing. Hopefully the OP has seen the error of his ways and has already asked the mods to correct his "false drama"
exactly that

I'm working on my marketing skills

was it THAT clear?

It means I still need to learn a lot

Quote:
Originally Posted by F-DNS
Oh really? I have 4 cellphones set to silent that are vibrating their nuts off (sufficient to cause Tsunami warnings on Lake Windermere) without you cooking up false information "for sensationalism". WHT is supposed to be a source of information, not a hangout for drama queens

I'm sorry. I do apologize. I didnt think I could cause this much issue.

Anyhow I have 10 operators online atm, and our lines are filled to the rim too, customers are driving us crazy. I was really hoping for some more informations, since OVH doesnt do much in this regard.

Now that I have an answer to pass down to the support, everything is much better. Except maybe for 10 times the usual volume of support calls.

Posted by Muad_Dib, 02-20-2013, 05:56 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Darthkatzs
You are the one that concluded that it was a DDoS and that apparently half of Europe is offline. If not, then you should state your sources. I'm only see large latency issues due to the routing taking a large detour.
I do apologize, I referred wrongly to a DDoS because it seemed like a system wide DDoS.

We got SYN Flood on a daily basis, and I'm trained to answer to that. When I saw syn flood symptoms on hundreds of server, I got really scared. Like a nightmare. I started making calls to our (friendly) competitors, and they were in the same boat. Very unnerving.

Posted by Darthkatzs, 02-20-2013, 05:57 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by F-DNS
Sorry what? Go back and read the OP (and it's author) please.
I misread your name and misinterpreted your post.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Muad_Dib
I do apologize, I referred wrongly to a DDoS because it seemed like a system wide DDoS.

We got SYN Flood on a daily basis, and I'm trained to answer to that. When I saw syn flood symptoms on hundreds of server, I got really scared. Like a nightmare. I started making calls to our (friendly) competitors, and they were in the same boat. Very unnerving.
Yeah, It's a common problem these days. SYN's are ok, but kids are learning the way of UDP lately too.

Posted by F-DNS, 02-20-2013, 06:01 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Muad_Dib
I'm sorry. I do apologize. I didnt think I could cause this much issue.
OVH have 150k servers, 30k VPSs, goodness knows how many webhosting, ADSL, VOiP, SMS, cloud, fax gateway customers - What exactly did you think your thread title including "OVH" would cause when the search engines got hold of it?

FYI, OVH are not the only people working overtime to work around this. Just one example: http://www.leasewebnoc.com/en/networ...etwork-issue-1

Posted by pxlfoo, 02-20-2013, 06:02 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Darthkatzs
I misread your name and misinterpreted your post.



Yeah, It's a common problem these days. SYN's are ok, but kids are learning the way of UDP lately too.
NO.. The OP said himself he did it for attention. Before the post was edited there were claims of "The biggest DDOS in history", which is obviously going to cause some panic =/ Not cool.

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NVM, you edited that before my reply....... This thread should probably just be closed.

Posted by F-DNS, 02-20-2013, 06:09 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by pxlfoo
This thread should probably just be closed.
Hopefully after the thread title is edited to something more meaningful like "Fibre cut in Germany" - Mentioning major providers in the thread title is just pathetic when they're as much victims of the event as we are.

Posted by nibb, 02-20-2013, 06:11 PM
Most of Europe is offline? Really?

Fiber cuts are not unusual, and Europe is not powered by 1 single individual cable. I suspect your think OVH is Internet or it powers all the Internet in Europe. On which part did that massive attack never seeing in history before come into play?

Do you always just make up things like this do get attention or did you actually believed those things?

Posted by alex-developer, 02-20-2013, 06:46 PM
it seems to me the service is up, it can be selected IPs are affected but not all.

Posted by F-DNS, 02-20-2013, 06:48 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Muad_Dib
I was really hoping for some more informations, since OVH doesnt do much in this regard.
Looks to me that out of all the providers affected OVH are giving the best commentary on the real events of the evening:

http://status.ovh.co.uk/?do=details&id=4165

Posted by suhailc, 02-20-2013, 06:57 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by F-DNS
Oh really? I have 4 cellphones set to silent that are vibrating their nuts off (sufficient to cause Tsunami warnings on Lake Windermere) without you cooking up false information "for sensationalism". WHT is supposed to be a source of information, not a hangout for drama queens
Sorry for digressing but this really cracked me up! LOL

Posted by F-DNS, 02-20-2013, 07:14 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by suhailc
Sorry for digressing but this really cracked me up! LOL
Yeah, me too

We were just getting into our anniversary dinner and about to get stuck into the oysters on this menu when the proverbial hit the fan (Prices are GBP not USD).

I'm wondering if I can send the OP the restaurant bill for the food we never got to eat, and perhaps the overtime for tonight? I'd usually be inclined to let him buy us a couple of drinks on the rearranged reservation but I'm hesitant to say when it is in case he declares a major nuclear wipeout across Northern America to coincide. Who needs DDoS when you've got him creating WHT dramas in Google that can (apparently) take down entire continents? LOL

Posted by Muad_Dib, 02-20-2013, 08:17 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by F-DNS
What exactly did you think your thread title including "OVH" would cause when the search engines got hold of it?
No the goal was simply to get some quick infos from the forum, by increasing attention.
Quote:
Originally Posted by F-DNS
Yeah, me too

We were just getting into our anniversary dinner and about to get stuck into the oysters on this menu when the proverbial hit the fan (Prices are GBP not USD).
lol

time to hire someone, isn't it? in this economy creating a job is always a good and a profitable thing, even more when you account for increased quality of life. It definetly increased mine


let's say I dont charge you for this advice and we are even for the dinner?



Quote:
Originally Posted by nibb
Most of Europe is offline? Really?

Fiber cuts are not unusual, and Europe is not powered by 1 single individual cable. I suspect your think OVH is Internet or it powers all the Internet in Europe. On which part did that massive attack never seeing in history before come into play?

Do you always just make up things like this do get attention or did you actually believed those things?
well having 100k+ customer offline and calling is like a tidal wave hitting I wonder how many people would keep cold blood and not exxagerate things

Cant see why people get always so worked up on the internet

Posted by thomsonprinting, 02-20-2013, 08:22 PM
Seriously, all that is currently down? What is the cause?



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